Odds....Math guys please explain them.
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4,200 packs is still a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of packs that have been opened. If you are so sure that your data is legit to disprove their published odds, go file a complaint and provide your evidence.
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@genopolanco_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
Yes packs are almost always going to be a loss. It’s like playing a slot machine. You’re really just spending money to play slots because you’re almost guaranteed to lose money. Best advice for anyone would be to NOT buy packs. It is always the worst financial decision you can make with stubs regardless of what card you need.
Some people think… “I only need Trout but I only have 100k stubs… let’s buy packs with that 100k and pull him!” No. Save your stubs and buy whatever player you want off the market.
Also why I don’t gamble unless there’s actually some skill involved like poker.
For sure. I play tables in Vegas and win every time I go and did edit my post a bit after to reflect this. Don’t touch them and there’s plenty in this game. Won’t say it still won’t [censored] you off lol but just don’t touch them.
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@genopolanco_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
Yes packs are almost always going to be a loss. It’s like playing a slot machine. You’re really just spending money to play slots because you’re almost guaranteed to lose money. Best advice for anyone would be to NOT buy packs. It is always the worst financial decision you can make with stubs regardless of what card you need.
Some people think… “I only need Trout but I only have 100k stubs… let’s buy packs with that 100k and pull him!” No. Save your stubs and buy whatever player you want off the market.
Also why I don’t gamble unless there’s actually some skill involved like poker.
For sure. I play tables in Vegas and win every time I go and did edit my post a bit after to reflect this. Don’t touch them and there’s plenty in this game. Won’t say it still won’t [censored] you off lol but just don’t touch them.
Yep they give out so many packs in this game for free. I haven’t bought a single pack and have still pulled about a dozen diamonds, including Cole.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4,200 packs is still a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of packs that have been opened. If you are so sure that your data is legit to disprove their published odds, go file a complaint and provide your evidence.
Ive opened more packs than you can imagine. I tracked a week lol. 4200 is enough to show a loss pattern and my theory is the more you pulled the bigger the loss would be until it hit whatever the true pack value is then it would level out.
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4200 packs is not even a drop of water in the ocean. If you take very conservative estimates of 150,000 total TS21 users since Day 1 that have collected an average of 250 packs each (free and/or bought) that is 62.5 million packs opened.
Your 4200 packs represent 0.0000672 percent of that total, or in other words is statistically irrelevant.
The 1:50 odds are only needed to be maintained across all packs opened, not each individual user's packs.
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4,200 packs is still a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of packs that have been opened. If you are so sure that your data is legit to disprove their published odds, go file a complaint and provide your evidence.
Ive opened more packs than you can imagine. I tracked a week lol. 4200 is enough to show a loss pattern and my theory is the more you pulled the bigger the loss would be until it hit whatever the true pack value is then it would level out.
I’ve pulled way less packs than you and have pulled plenty of diamonds. I guess they were giving your share to me and other players. Like I said, go provide you evidence and let us know what happens.
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@abbyspapa_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4200 packs is not even a drop of water in the ocean. If you take very conservative estimates of 150,000 total TS21 users since Day 1 that have collected an average of 250 packs each (free and/or bought) that is 62.5 million packs opened.
Your 4200 packs represent 0.0000672 percent of that total, or in other words is statistically irrelevant.
The 1:50 odds are only needed to be maintained across all packs opened, not each individual user's packs.
I won’t argue the 1:50. It’s pretty close to that. I’m talking value of packs.
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@abbyspapa_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4200 packs is not even a drop of water in the ocean. If you take very conservative estimates of 150,000 total TS21 users since Day 1 that have collected an average of 250 packs each (free and/or bought) that is 62.5 million packs opened.
Your 4200 packs represent 0.0000672 percent of that total, or in other words is statistically irrelevant.
The 1:50 odds are only needed to be maintained across all packs opened, not each individual user's packs.
But....I only care about me! Give me what I deserve! Whah (on repeat for the duration of the game cycle).
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@abbyspapa_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4200 packs is not even a drop of water in the ocean. If you take very conservative estimates of 150,000 total TS21 users since Day 1 that have collected an average of 250 packs each (free and/or bought) that is 62.5 million packs opened.
Your 4200 packs represent 0.0000672 percent of that total, or in other words is statistically irrelevant.
The 1:50 odds are only needed to be maintained across all packs opened, not each individual user's packs.
I won’t argue the 1:50. It’s pretty close to that. I’m talking value of packs.
The value of packs has always been poor. You should know that the house always wins. They are out to make money and people that dump their money in packs are their favorite.
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@raylewissb47_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4,200 packs is still a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of packs that have been opened. If you are so sure that your data is legit to disprove their published odds, go file a complaint and provide your evidence.
Ive opened more packs than you can imagine. I tracked a week lol. 4200 is enough to show a loss pattern and my theory is the more you pulled the bigger the loss would be until it hit whatever the true pack value is then it would level out.
I’ve pulled way less packs than you and have pulled plenty of diamonds. I guess they were giving your share to me and other players. Like I said, go provide you evidence and let us know what happens.
I’ve pulled 11 trouts. Done the full LS collection, Jackie and MO and still have tons of stubs. It’s weird y’all seem to purposely ignore the actual point which I’ve stated in the thread. Glad you got my portion of diamonds tho. How’s that working out for you?
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@abbyspapa_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4200 packs is not even a drop of water in the ocean. If you take very conservative estimates of 150,000 total TS21 users since Day 1 that have collected an average of 250 packs each (free and/or bought) that is 62.5 million packs opened.
Your 4200 packs represent 0.0000672 percent of that total, or in other words is statistically irrelevant.
The 1:50 odds are only needed to be maintained across all packs opened, not each individual user's packs.
I won’t argue the 1:50. It’s pretty close to that. I’m talking value of packs.
The value of packs is incredibly low, that's why they give us so many for free!
If you are arguing that buying packs is a bad use of money/stubs then we are in total agreement on that. However plenty of very smart people still buy lottery tickets or play the slots in Vegas.
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@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@raylewissb47_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
@untchable704_psn said in Odds....Math guys please explain them.:
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/36276/my-packs-tracker/24
It’s right here. That is 4200+ packs tracked. If you can read through that and tell me it’s a legit business practice go ahead. I stopped tracking after like 10 days because the results became obvious and stopped tracking value after like 6 days because it became apparent. If that doesn’t make you stop pulling packs nothing will. They are nothing more than a stub sink with the hopes you pull a big card to get a big fraction of what you lost back. I even gave the benefit of the doubt and gave them half value back on all non diamond packs.
4,200 packs is still a drop in the ocean compared to the millions of packs that have been opened. If you are so sure that your data is legit to disprove their published odds, go file a complaint and provide your evidence.
Ive opened more packs than you can imagine. I tracked a week lol. 4200 is enough to show a loss pattern and my theory is the more you pulled the bigger the loss would be until it hit whatever the true pack value is then it would level out.
It’s one in 50 to pull a diamond; there’s no odds on the value of that diamond; different thing entirely
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