The DDA in this game is appalling online
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It's ridiculous. Guy can't h it all game. Get a lead. 7th inning and bloop singles. Pinch hit for the pitcher and that's an automatic hit. Then a 12 PCI HR to take the lead. Why can't they just make it where actual input matters ?
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@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
Yup and third game [censored] Kike Hernandez pinch hits a 3 run HR. This game is beginning to play like [censored] [censored]
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A common scenario I run into and have been running into for years...up by 2 in the last inning...mind you this guy couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat...lead off bloop single on very late timing and ball not in the pci...followed by an easy double play ground ball that my gold/diamond fielder lets go over his shoulder for an error...followed by a homerun on early timing and ball barely in the pci. Game over I hit the showers. I can’t be the only one that has seen that combo before. It’s like a Mortal Kombat finisher at this point. I believe 60-70% of the time a better than average player can over come it and the 80-90% of the time the elite players can over come it. Overcoming the script and trying your best to minimize it is where the skill gap takes place. Sometimes you can conquer it and other times you are at the mercy of the game. But there is a script and it does happen.
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
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@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
All star hero here
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@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
I was 24-1 to start the year. Lost 4 straight, 2 I deserved to and 2 I outplayed my opponent by a wide margin, but they get some bloops to come back and fluke it in extras. 3 of my losses the guy can't hit all game then late game all of a sudden their bad swings get rewarded.
You can still win games with DDA or RNG against you. You just notice that when winning it seems those jammed and very early hits land for your opponent, but your good squared swings get run down or die at the wall. Diamond and gold fielders boot grounders, they take an extra split second to throw to first. You give up an off the pci homer. I think a lot of it is quirks, momentum, etc. -
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
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@bearsfan217_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
Uh oh. You gonna make the sds apologists mad that you even suggest DDA. Ive noted a few times on here that DDA is a actual thing, and makes for Modes like DD, muT, and Fut thrive. They release these new cards all the time, and that makes Johnny thinks if spend such and such real money the latest and greatest card will prevent him from losing which we know it won't.
I'll believe in DDA when mercy rules in this game cease to exist. If DDA was truly a think mercy rules would simply not happen ever. 90% of the "this game has DDA" posts are made by a player that left his pitcher in to long or brought in a scrub reliever and lost in the late innings. There just isn't enough proof that it exists. Anyway doesn't EA have a patent on the entire concept of DDA?
Do you know how there are mercy rules? Because people leave their pitchers in too long and that trumps any DDA. Do mound visits and switch pitchers and the chances of you being mercied are extremely rare. The game will help you out if you are losing and give you chances.
Ironically leaving pitchers in too long is what prompts most of these DDA posts in the first place. You really think SDS has the ability to program defensive animations to favor/go against people based on situation? You are giving them too much credit if that's the case. They haven't gotten catcher fielding right in the entire history of this game being online. You thinking they have the capability of programming DDA is laughable
So Madden doesn't program in fumbles when you are about to go ahead 21-0? I'll give you more examples. Ball to the gap. Your 99 speed outfielder physically slows down when you are in the lead and the ball drops. However, if you are behind he speeds up and makes the catch. Are you saying you have never seen players speed up or slow down. If so you are not only naive but blind. You may want to get your eyes checked. It happens all the time.
There is DDA in madden. I'll give you that. Because EA has a patent on the concept. Just seems strange to me that the person that thinks McDonalds wifi or a phone hotspot helps you out in this game more that a good internet connection thinks that outfielders speeding up is DDA and not connection based
I agree with you, but I believe the patent EA has for dynamic difficulty isnt on the concept, but rather how they implement it. I read through all of their patents when I was big into FIFA, and at least that is how I remember reading that aspect.
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@tyrusthebull_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@hikes83_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
I must be f* terrible at the game if I’m 23-3 with two disconnect losses. DDA must always be in my favour right?
All star hero here
Lol right buddy. I wasn’t gloating, just making a point. If it makes you feel better, I’m sitting right around 850
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@formallyforearms said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
Uh oh. You gonna make the sds apologists mad that you even suggest DDA. Ive noted a few times on here that DDA is a actual thing, and makes for Modes like DD, muT, and Fut thrive. They release these new cards all the time, and that makes Johnny thinks if spend such and such real money the latest and greatest card will prevent him from losing which we know it won't.
I'll believe in DDA when mercy rules in this game cease to exist. If DDA was truly a think mercy rules would simply not happen ever. 90% of the "this game has DDA" posts are made by a player that left his pitcher in to long or brought in a scrub reliever and lost in the late innings. There just isn't enough proof that it exists. Anyway doesn't EA have a patent on the entire concept of DDA?
Do you know how there are mercy rules? Because people leave their pitchers in too long and that trumps any DDA. Do mound visits and switch pitchers and the chances of you being mercied are extremely rare. The game will help you out if you are losing and give you chances.
Ironically leaving pitchers in too long is what prompts most of these DDA posts in the first place. You really think SDS has the ability to program defensive animations to favor/go against people based on situation? You are giving them too much credit if that's the case. They haven't gotten catcher fielding right in the entire history of this game being online. You thinking they have the capability of programming DDA is laughable
So Madden doesn't program in fumbles when you are about to go ahead 21-0? I'll give you more examples. Ball to the gap. Your 99 speed outfielder physically slows down when you are in the lead and the ball drops. However, if you are behind he speeds up and makes the catch. Are you saying you have never seen players speed up or slow down. If so you are not only naive but blind. You may want to get your eyes checked. It happens all the time.
There is DDA in madden. I'll give you that. Because EA has a patent on the concept. Just seems strange to me that the person that thinks McDonalds wifi or a phone hotspot helps you out in this game more that a good internet connection thinks that outfielders speeding up is DDA and not connection based
I agree with you, but I believe the patent EA has for dynamic difficulty isnt on the concept, but rather how they implement it. I read through all of their patents when I was big into FIFA, and at least that is how I remember reading that aspect.
Exactly. People are describing the supposed DDA in this game exactly the way madden and fifa implement it. It would literally be illegal for SDS to use it that way. I just don't think some people don't get that the randomness of baseball isn't DDA. You could even call it bad programming if you want. But it isn't DDA
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Any excuse to not just take an L like a good sport. When these things happen in your favor do you message your opponent apologizing saying they should've won? Noone on here ever wants to take any accountability for anything
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@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
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@kovz88_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Any excuse to not just take an L like a good sport. When these things happen in your favor do you message your opponent apologizing saying they should've won? Noone on here ever wants to take any accountability for anything
I have definitely won 1 game because of this, but honestly 3 of my 5 losses were terrible luck against me for them to tie the game and force extras. A lot of my wins the guy quits early or I had a big lead.
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@untchable704_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
When an early swing without touching the ball with the pci can be a HR and 20 good timed swings dotted inside the pci can be outs it not really skill. Just a casual game. The only skill really comes down to whether a fastball zooms by with your connection or not and not swinging at low pitches out the zone unless they allow you to foul them off 10 times in a row.
I don’t know about DDA. But it’s definitely best to take it as a casual experience and hope your connection allows to see the fastballs.
There's 100% dda in this game. They can deny it all they want but all you have to do is watch the game and pay attention. I can usually tell whether a play will be made when it is hit depending on the score. For instance, a ball in the hole at SS. If you are winning, 9/10 times that runner will be safe. If losing, the SS will get the quick throw animation. No different than the dribbler on the infield or a thousand other scenarios. This is why when you are in the lead, you take no chances on the bases and have to make sure your guy will 100% make it. You have to factor that the relay will be very quick.
No there isn't.
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@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
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@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
then my mistake toast, my mistake
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@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
then my mistake toast, my mistake
Lol all good bro. Doesn’t even show the other modes I play either.
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My opinion... And it's an opinion, not fact.
There's no DDA in MLB the Show.
There's horrible RNG ranges for certain aspects of gameplay, ranging from PCI coverage to pitch input ranges.
Not going to get into the whole DDA debate. I'll simply state that based on the level of programming that is incorporated into baseball and the nature of action, reaction, result, it's not a viable option to code.
Things that affect RNG ranges include card attributes, user input, confidence, pitch type, swing timing, location, elevation, clutch etc. Every aspect of the event of a pitch, swing, contact, ball in play, requires a dice roll and possible result. No matter what the attributes indicate your range should be, there's always a chance for the 1 in 20 roll for the rarest of outcomes.
Perfect release FB using pinpoint, lower right quadrant... Will still require a calculation by the batter. There's always going to be that 1 in X chance that if little billy swings, he's going to make some form of contact.
They do the best they can, but sometimes we see the events transpire in a way that we don't expect. Thus we start speculation that it's DDA.
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@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
then my mistake toast, my mistake
Lol all good bro. Doesn’t even show the other modes I play either.
this been the first year ive dabbled in franchise cause of the servers, not a bad time at all.
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@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
then my mistake toast, my mistake
Lol all good bro. Doesn’t even show the other modes I play either.
this been the first year ive dabbled in franchise cause of the servers, not a bad time at all.
I was always a franchise guy until ‘18 when my lil brother told me to try DD. Now that’s all I can freaking play in sports games. Ultimate team took over franchise for me
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@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@guccigangchuck said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@lazy_toast_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
No skill is need for this game brotha. The sooner we figure it out the less stress we will be. Just played two event games. Was leading by 2 and 3 and lost both in the last inning off ridiculous HRs. I’m about to play Lego Avengers
you're legit 40-30 and batting 232, the reason you're losing isn't because of the game my friend..
Yea all my stats have been screwed up since launch. Like look at my hours played. Lol no way I’m close to that
then my mistake toast, my mistake
Lol all good bro. Doesn’t even show the other modes I play either.
this been the first year ive dabbled in franchise cause of the servers, not a bad time at all.
I was always a franchise guy until ‘18 when my lil brother told me to try DD. Now that’s all I can freaking play in sports games. Ultimate team took over franchise for me
I'm big on DD but I don't mind franchise, although the simulating is totally to realistic, I had the twins having pretty much an all 90 plus line up and we still got swept in the first round
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@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@the_dragon1912 said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
@soreal35_psn said in The DDA in this game is appalling online:
Why? I thought skill mattered lol
Uh oh. You gonna make the sds apologists mad that you even suggest DDA. Ive noted a few times on here that DDA is a actual thing, and makes for Modes like DD, muT, and Fut thrive. They release these new cards all the time, and that makes Johnny thinks if spend such and such real money the latest and greatest card will prevent him from losing which we know it won't.
I'll believe in DDA when mercy rules in this game cease to exist. If DDA was truly a think mercy rules would simply not happen ever. 90% of the "this game has DDA" posts are made by a player that left his pitcher in to long or brought in a scrub reliever and lost in the late innings. There just isn't enough proof that it exists. Anyway doesn't EA have a patent on the entire concept of DDA?
Do you know how there are mercy rules? Because people leave their pitchers in too long and that trumps any DDA. Do mound visits and switch pitchers and the chances of you being mercied are extremely rare. The game will help you out if you are losing and give you chances.
Ironically leaving pitchers in too long is what prompts most of these DDA posts in the first place. You really think SDS has the ability to program defensive animations to favor/go against people based on situation? You are giving them too much credit if that's the case. They haven't gotten catcher fielding right in the entire history of this game being online. You thinking they have the capability of programming DDA is laughable
So Madden doesn't program in fumbles when you are about to go ahead 21-0? I'll give you more examples. Ball to the gap. Your 99 speed outfielder physically slows down when you are in the lead and the ball drops. However, if you are behind he speeds up and makes the catch. Are you saying you have never seen players speed up or slow down. If so you are not only naive but blind. You may want to get your eyes checked. It happens all the time.
Idk what DDA is but this thread nails exactly what I’ve been saying. Just posted this on another thread-
Where are you playing most of your games? There are plenty of pitcher’s parks to choose from. It makes a huge difference. The real issue in the game is inconsistent gameplay such as the game overcompensating in order to keep games close as well as huge momentum boosts. I understand there are momentum swings in real life as well but it’s not like a player swinging a hot bat has any actual advantage. In the game we get constantly changing PCI which leads to very inconsistent results as it relates to user input. It makes no sense to me why one inning PCI input results in an IF pop up but the next the exact same input results in a home run simply bc I might be down a few runs or the pitcher is beginning to tire. Fielding is just as bad as guys will start making errors on routine grounders or they’ll look like they’re suddenly moving in slow motion and not able to track down a routine fly ball (this is something I noticed a lot more last year). Infielders suddenly taking forever to get rid of the ball and guys beating out grounders is another common example. These types of dramatic swings in gameplay just make the game feel rigged, I can’t be the only one who feels this way.
