This game is the same game the last 6 years
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same game lmao dont tell that to us online franchise/league guys and offline franchise guys. So many features from those two modes have been removed simply to add resources to $$$$DD
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@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
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Every issue I have with this game has NOTHING to do with skill though and thats my point. If I suck I suck. I will admit when I swing at really bad pitches. I know im not the best. But for the elements I cant control its maddening. Moments are the best example of this but gameplay all around sometimes fights you. My gameplay or myself personally shouldnt be attacked in the forum for stating this. I never said Im great. But Ive done every moment. Ive done all missions. Im maxed out at 650K XP. So im not horrible. As far as it being the same game, i kinda think so. Like I said, they do nothing with commentating every year. Its the same stadiums every year. The same gameplay, nothing new. The same cards. Then the new ones, the really good ones to get are either only obtainable by online play or owning every card in the game. Cmon. Now I have a pretty [censored] good lineup and almost 300k stubs all from playing. But to own every [censored] card in the league? I said earlier, im not complaining about skill or difficulty. Im talking about how the gameplay fights you and the moments do almost all they can at times to set you up to fail. If I swing at bad pitches or get under one or on top of one thats on me. Too early or late, my bad. But to have one at bat to do a mission at times and I get walked or hit by a pitch?? Cmon lol
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
I didn't include them because if they are already playing the same game without paying for roster updates it's unlikely they would pay for just roster updates.
As for DD your idea of the old cards not being eligible for online there would be a huge backlash for that because in that scenario it's not a new game you are adding onto the existing one. Players who spent $1000s the previous year would be up in arms because they couldn't use the cards in online modes that they spent $1000s on. We see this pop on the forums as it is with people wanting there to be a carryover system from game to game.
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@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
I didn't include them because if they are already playing the same game without paying for roster updates it's unlikely they would pay for just roster updates.
As for DD your idea of the old cards not being eligible for online there would be a huge backlash for that because in that scenario it's not a new game you are adding onto the existing one. Players who spent $1000s the previous year would be up in arms because they couldn't use the cards in online modes that they spent $1000s on. We see this pop on the forums as it is with people wanting there to be a carryover system from game to game.
Like you just said, they cannot carry them over now so it would be no different. Also the people who only play franchise could get update rosters for $15 instead of paying $60 for a whole new game.
I think you would be surprised...
It would also allow them to spend more time and resources developing the game. -
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
I didn't include them because if they are already playing the same game without paying for roster updates it's unlikely they would pay for just roster updates.
As for DD your idea of the old cards not being eligible for online there would be a huge backlash for that because in that scenario it's not a new game you are adding onto the existing one. Players who spent $1000s the previous year would be up in arms because they couldn't use the cards in online modes that they spent $1000s on. We see this pop on the forums as it is with people wanting there to be a carryover system from game to game.
Like you just said, they cannot carry them over now so it would be no different. Also the people who only play franchise could get update rosters for $15 instead of paying $60 for a whole new game.
I think you would be surprised...
It would also allow them to spend more time and resources developing the game.But it would be different. It's not a new game it would be in the same sandbox & coding of the previous game. I saw how this went with a mobile sports game that used to release yearly as well. It didn't go over well with a ton of chargebacks, loss of player base, & rating drop.
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@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
I didn't include them because if they are already playing the same game without paying for roster updates it's unlikely they would pay for just roster updates.
As for DD your idea of the old cards not being eligible for online there would be a huge backlash for that because in that scenario it's not a new game you are adding onto the existing one. Players who spent $1000s the previous year would be up in arms because they couldn't use the cards in online modes that they spent $1000s on. We see this pop on the forums as it is with people wanting there to be a carryover system from game to game.
Like you just said, they cannot carry them over now so it would be no different. Also the people who only play franchise could get update rosters for $15 instead of paying $60 for a whole new game.
I think you would be surprised...
It would also allow them to spend more time and resources developing the game.But it would be different. It's not a new game it would be in the same sandbox & coding of the previous game. I saw how this went with a mobile sports game that used to release yearly as well. It didn't go over well with a ton of chargebacks, loss of player base, & rating drop.
I do believe one of the hurdles they face is changing the way the consumer feels about it. I'm pretty sure the devs and the studio would rather not do yearly releases but it's been part of the experience for so long now that it would be hard to change it.
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Its a baseball game what you want zombie mode?
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@djeternal2_psn said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in This game is the same game the last 6 years:
I too despise how yearly released sports games work. I think they would actually make more money by not having yearly releases and just allow players to buy the game once and then buy upgraded features if they choose to over a 4 year period minimum.
For example: if you like DD, next march you can buy the new DD package to continue to compete. More of a franchise guy? OK here is a package of custom rosters you can buy to add to your game. Want new announcers, cool we have that too.
My point is it would be easier for them and just as profitable to sell the individual pieces of the game and just keep the base game for a few years instead of replacing the base game every year.I doubt they'd make more money. For one the way you are suggesting with different smaller packages would definitely be a loser. Let's say they sell 100,000 copies each year @ $60 each that equals 6 million. Now your way let's say they split up franchise & DD (we won't break it down further altho I'm sure some could) at $30 each. I play DD exclusively so they lose $30 from me each year. I'm sure there are some that only play DD like me, only play franchise, & some that would buy both. So conservatively let's say it's 20% for just DD, 20% for just franchise, & the other 60% buy both. With that model and those conservative #s they effectively lose 20% gross compared to releasing a game each year.
This does not even take into account carrying DD teams forward. in order to have the carrot chase each year for DD players we would have cards with 200-300 stats on them by now or 3-4 whole new tiers above diamond further diluting the pool cards you can pull in packs
What you are not considering though is people who don't play DD and just play the same game for 4 or 5 years until they decide to upgrade.
I know a guy who plays madden 18 and says he won't buy a new game until he is forced to because of next gen only situation that will eventually happen.
Also, why would your card carry over to the new DD season? They would be only usable in offline modes and you will need to get all new cards for 22, just like you do now.
I'm pretty sure the Korean market already works like this.
I didn't include them because if they are already playing the same game without paying for roster updates it's unlikely they would pay for just roster updates.
As for DD your idea of the old cards not being eligible for online there would be a huge backlash for that because in that scenario it's not a new game you are adding onto the existing one. Players who spent $1000s the previous year would be up in arms because they couldn't use the cards in online modes that they spent $1000s on. We see this pop on the forums as it is with people wanting there to be a carryover system from game to game.
Like you just said, they cannot carry them over now so it would be no different. Also the people who only play franchise could get update rosters for $15 instead of paying $60 for a whole new game.
I think you would be surprised...
It would also allow them to spend more time and resources developing the game.Talk about server issues with the room they would need for all the previous years cards and trying to integrate/update new players and going through to update older cards, then having to alter the gameplay etc etc.... it would be way worse. Not to mention we would be stuck with this physics engine when it clearly needs to be redone or refined. A perfect perfect with 110 power should not be a warning track hit. Just early seems to be the goal of your swing and not good or even perfect.
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well it's fresh for xbox users!
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