Toxic player
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Should’ve pressed circle. In the worst case scenario you would’ve played the 9th and get the three outs
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Toxic player:
Should’ve pressed circle. In the worst case scenario you would’ve played the 9th and get the three outs
Well I only needed 1 more out for the mercy, hence the reason he did this. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it X to accept a Friendly?
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@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Toxic player:
Should’ve pressed circle. In the worst case scenario you would’ve played the 9th and get the three outs
Well I only needed 1 more out for the mercy, hence the reason he did this. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it X to accept a Friendly?
I can’t remember now, I think it’s square.. but toxic players run their timer down until 1 sec and offer a FQ to trixj you into “forfeiting the game” so I let the message there for one or two seconds and press circle, then the message to forfeit comes up I either get the W or they back out and keep playing
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in Toxic player:
@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in Toxic player:
Should’ve pressed circle. In the worst case scenario you would’ve played the 9th and get the three outs
Well I only needed 1 more out for the mercy, hence the reason he did this. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it X to accept a Friendly?
I can’t remember now, I think it’s square.. but toxic players run their timer down until 1 sec and offer a FQ to trixj you into “forfeiting the game” so I let the message there for one or two seconds and press circle, then the message to forfeit comes up I either get the W or they back out and keep playing
But I watched the timer hit 0:00. Message pops up. Like I said it’s jumbled and looks like 2 messages written on top of each other. I see the words about forcing a forfeit so I hit square which is what does the forfeit. I’m almost positive it’s X to accept a Friendly.
The whole thing is it just sucks that there is even a way for someone to exploit this nonsense. SDS
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Ok, someone just offered me a Friendly and now I see that it is indeed SQUARE to accept it which is even more ridiculous.
1st and last time that ever happens to me. The whole jumbled up words on the screen thing pisses me off almost as much as the tool bag who did it.
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Covid really gave people more time to find ways to cheat and break the game
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Ah yeah those are the worst. Let me say one thing about bunting with Bellinger tho; I used to think this is cheesy and lame as well but I changed my mind on this. You see, 9 out of 10 players in this community have the auto shift turned on because it's on by default. That's lazy and a bailout tactic handed to them by the devs (not a shift in general, but the fact that's is on automatically instead of manually by default).
So with lefty bats who have a shift based on their pull tendency, I pull the ball into the shift so often that's its basically a free out most of the time. Bellinger fits this category. So I started to try and bunt towards 3B to get on base and see if my opponent actually adjusts to it by taking off the shift. If they do, I will swing the bat and no longer get out because of the shift. If they don't, I will bunt against the shift and I'll continue to do so until my opponent makes adjustments. Funnily enough, some players never take the shift off once in a 9 inning game while I'm having a field day bunting against it. Is that me being lame or them being stubborn and dumb?
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@raesone_psn said in Toxic player:
Ah yeah those are the worst. Let me say one thing about bunting with Bellinger tho; I used to think this is cheesy and lame as well but I changed my mind on this. You see, 9 out of 10 players in this community have the auto shift turned on because it's on by default. That's lazy and a bailout tactic handed to them by the devs (not a shift in general, but the fact that's is on automatically instead of manually by default).
So with lefty bats who have a shift based on their pull tendency, I pull the ball into the shift so often that's its basically a free out most if the time. Bellinger fits this category. So I started to try and bunt towards 3B to get on base and see if my opponent actually adjusts to it by taking off the shift. If they do, I will swing the bat and no longer get out because of the shift. If they don't, I will bunt against the shift and I'll continue to do so until my opponent makes adjustments. Funnily enough, some players never take the shift off once in a 9 inning game while I'm having a field day bunting against it. Is that me being lame or them being stubborn and dumb?
I feel like it is a bit of both. They are definitely stubborn for not adjusting to how someone is taking advantage of holes in their defense, and it is kind of lame to bunt with a power hitter because a shift is on. That being said, I would be a liar if I said I never did it. I used to do it all the time in 16 I think. I can't remember if it was Miggy or Ortiz that it was easy to do it with.
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@p0pa-cherry_xbl said in Toxic player:
@raesone_psn said in Toxic player:
Ah yeah those are the worst. Let me say one thing about bunting with Bellinger tho; I used to think this is cheesy and lame as well but I changed my mind on this. You see, 9 out of 10 players in this community have the auto shift turned on because it's on by default. That's lazy and a bailout tactic handed to them by the devs (not a shift in general, but the fact that's is on automatically instead of manually by default).
So with lefty bats who have a shift based on their pull tendency, I pull the ball into the shift so often that's its basically a free out most if the time. Bellinger fits this category. So I started to try and bunt towards 3B to get on base and see if my opponent actually adjusts to it by taking off the shift. If they do, I will swing the bat and no longer get out because of the shift. If they don't, I will bunt against the shift and I'll continue to do so until my opponent makes adjustments. Funnily enough, some players never take the shift off once in a 9 inning game while I'm having a field day bunting against it. Is that me being lame or them being stubborn and dumb?
I feel like it is a bit of both. They are definitely stubborn for not adjusting to how someone is taking advantage of holes in their defense, and it is kind of lame to bunt with a power hitter because a shift is on. That being said, I would be a liar if I said I never did it. I used to do it all the time in 16 I think. I can't remember if it was Miggy or Ortiz that it was easy to do it with.
Well there is a significant difference between bunting back in 16 and bunting now. In 16 it was literally broken and you could make all the correct adjustments and still get cheesed to death by the bunt. Now you can't even bunt it fair a lot of the times towards that 3B area.
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After time has expired, if there are two buttons as options to press, then the opponent is trying to trick you in accepting a "friendly quit request" since square button is used to accept the friendly quit. However, if the square button is the ONLY option on the popup box then, it's to forfeit their game...very simple.
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Can confirm this happened to me as well, except the opponent might not have done it correctly because the friendly quit request came up as the pause timer counted down, but it wasn't scrambled and I was able to cancel it. They then quit normally, but after that message faded out, the countdown timer message was sitting underneath before the application shut down (my opponent had quit so I didn't have to do anything). Perhaps they were trying the same thing but messed up their timing. It didn't occur to me at the time that I could have hit square for the wrong reason with the countdown ending at that exact moment.
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Best defense against a bunt and shift?
Plakata.
This FQ request thing has been around for 2+ years and covered enough on these boards that my sympathy level no longer exists. Regardless of what the jumbled words say, the icon for the square isn't a trapezoid or infinity symbol.
Regarding the shift, it's lack of knowledge of how to change it. I turn it off at launch. I'm a baseball purist. I also tend to not use cards that get shifted.
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@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
Just played one of those toxic losers. Bunting with players like Bellinger which is laughable, holding R2, replay first HR, yada yada.
I settle down after getting annoyed the first few innings and just started crushing him. He was total trash and only hit 2 HR both on pitches that just got grooved down the middle when they shouldn’t have. I’m up 13-3 in the bottom 8th with 2 outs.
He lets his 3 minute+ timer go all the way down to zero. The screen pops up to forfeit their game, but the words on the screen are totally scrambled like it was two messages on top of each other. I hit Square and of course he magically tricked me into a Friendly. Then he messages me bragging about it.
How can I report this guy. Waste 45-60 mins of
Peoples time to exploit something in the game that SDS NEEDS to address and make impossible to happen. Very annoying.Then to top it off I start a new game and get a Network error in the top of the 1st and take an L. Awesome. ‘21 can’t come soon enough!
Unfortunately one of the "Supposedly" great content creators that seems like everybody bows down too, likes to build toxic teams and even puts it in his title.
Basically giving people a floorplan of how to be "Toxic" in the game and with 300k views we are the minority. Another reason why Online H2H will not get better b/c of jackwagons like this.
Just search MLBTS 20 toxic on you tube you will see the idiot.
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I’m curious to see if SDS fixes the friendly quit scam in 21...It can be eliminated by simply adding a 2nd prompt saying “Are you SURE you want to FRIENDLY QUIT?”.....This would eliminate this tactic completely.
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@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
Just played one of those toxic losers. Bunting with players like Bellinger which is laughable, holding R2, replay first HR, yada yada.
I settle down after getting annoyed the first few innings and just started crushing him. He was total trash and only hit 2 HR both on pitches that just got grooved down the middle when they shouldn’t have. I’m up 13-3 in the bottom 8th with 2 outs.
He lets his 3 minute+ timer go all the way down to zero. The screen pops up to forfeit their game, but the words on the screen are totally scrambled like it was two messages on top of each other. I hit Square and of course he magically tricked me into a Friendly. Then he messages me bragging about it.
How can I report this guy. Waste 45-60 mins of
Peoples time to exploit something in the game that SDS NEEDS to address and make impossible to happen. Very annoying.Then to top it off I start a new game and get a Network error in the top of the 1st and take an L. Awesome. ‘21 can’t come soon enough!
Are u excited for your opponents dashboarding?
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@hoboadam_psn said in Toxic player:
Regardless of what the jumbled words say, the icon for the square isn't a trapezoid or infinity symbol.
What exactly are you trying to say? If someone walks away or just decides to Let their timer expire instead of quitting, a message pops up and says something along the lines of accepting the forfeit press “SQUARE” or you can choose to wait longer.
What does this have to do with trapezoid or infinity symbol?
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As far as the bunting goes, people can obviously choose to play this game however they want. Personally, bunting with power hitters who never bunt vs the shift in real life is lame as hell. 98% of the time if someone does this vs me it’s a very weak opponent who doesn’t hit well. It’s a rare time that a WS, Flawless or player with high batting averages use this tactic vs me because we all know how high the ratio of HR:Hits are in this game vs real life. I have these guys bunting vs me with 2 strikes and Mantle up, even without a shift....and the game rewards it waaaaay too often.
I Mean cmon man. Let’s swing away. Let the one who pitches and swings the best win and move on. Reading your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses is smart baseball... and exploiting the game’s weakness with the unrealistic bunting and this timer/quit nonsense is not good baseball.
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@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
As far as the bunting goes, people can obviously choose to play this game however they want. Personally, bunting with power hitters who never bunt vs the shift in real life is lame as hell. 98% of the time if someone does this vs me it’s a very weak opponent who doesn’t hit well. It’s a rare time that a WS, Flawless or player with high batting averages use this tactic vs me because we all know how high the ratio of HR:Hits are in this game vs real life. I have these guys bunting vs me with 2 strikes and Mantle up, even without a shift....and the game rewards it waaaaay too often.
I Mean cmon man. Let’s swing away. Let the one who pitches and swings the best win and move on. Reading your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses is smart baseball... and exploiting the game’s weakness with the unrealistic bunting and this timer/quit nonsense is not good baseball.
Well I agree with you, but I still bunt sometimes against the shift if my opponent is refusing to make adjustments and I need to get something going, for the reasons I explained earlier. And I'm a WS, flawless and borderline top50 player. Other players I play against who fit that same description do it too sometimes. Not my preferred way of playing, but they should disable the auto shift and I would never even touch the triangle button in the first place. If you make manual adjustments to shift on someone - kudos to you. But this auto shift lazy stuff will make me bunt against it if I have to.
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@raesone_psn said in Toxic player:
@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
As far as the bunting goes, people can obviously choose to play this game however they want. Personally, bunting with power hitters who never bunt vs the shift in real life is lame as hell. 98% of the time if someone does this vs me it’s a very weak opponent who doesn’t hit well. It’s a rare time that a WS, Flawless or player with high batting averages use this tactic vs me because we all know how high the ratio of HR:Hits are in this game vs real life. I have these guys bunting vs me with 2 strikes and Mantle up, even without a shift....and the game rewards it waaaaay too often.
I Mean cmon man. Let’s swing away. Let the one who pitches and swings the best win and move on. Reading your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses is smart baseball... and exploiting the game’s weakness with the unrealistic bunting and this timer/quit nonsense is not good baseball.
Well I agree with you, but I still bunt sometimes against the shift if my opponent is refusing to make adjustments and I need to get something going, for the reasons I explained earlier. And I'm a WS, flawless and borderline top50 player. Other players I play against who fit that same description do it too sometimes. Not my preferred way of playing, but they should disable the auto shift and I would never even touch the triangle button in the first place. If you make manual adjustments to shift on someone - kudos to you. But this auto shift lazy stuff will make me bunt against it if I have to.
I understand your stance. But if you really think about it, ALL MLB teams utilize the shift often. So the more realistic way to play would be to have the Auto-Shift on and manually switch out when the situation dictates based on how your opponent is playing and the way you are pitching. Just my opinion.
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@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
@raesone_psn said in Toxic player:
@bob_sacamano_361 said in Toxic player:
As far as the bunting goes, people can obviously choose to play this game however they want. Personally, bunting with power hitters who never bunt vs the shift in real life is lame as hell. 98% of the time if someone does this vs me it’s a very weak opponent who doesn’t hit well. It’s a rare time that a WS, Flawless or player with high batting averages use this tactic vs me because we all know how high the ratio of HR:Hits are in this game vs real life. I have these guys bunting vs me with 2 strikes and Mantle up, even without a shift....and the game rewards it waaaaay too often.
I Mean cmon man. Let’s swing away. Let the one who pitches and swings the best win and move on. Reading your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses is smart baseball... and exploiting the game’s weakness with the unrealistic bunting and this timer/quit nonsense is not good baseball.
Well I agree with you, but I still bunt sometimes against the shift if my opponent is refusing to make adjustments and I need to get something going, for the reasons I explained earlier. And I'm a WS, flawless and borderline top50 player. Other players I play against who fit that same description do it too sometimes. Not my preferred way of playing, but they should disable the auto shift and I would never even touch the triangle button in the first place. If you make manual adjustments to shift on someone - kudos to you. But this auto shift lazy stuff will make me bunt against it if I have to.
I understand your stance. But if you really think about it, ALL MLB teams utilize the shift often. So the more realistic way to play would be to have the Auto-Shift on and manually switch out when the situation dictates based on how your opponent is playing and the way you are pitching. Just my opinion.
On that point I disagree with you. I think shifting or not shifting is a skill or at the very least a "presence of mind" kind of thing. It attributes to a skill gap, as in being aware that the hitter at the plate is an extreme pull hitter so you might want to shift. The game doing this for you automatically decreases that skill gap. Therefore I don't feel bad one bit for bunting it the other way to get on base against someone who's too lazy to turn the shift off once I already tried to bunt against it earlier. Just take the shift off and I'll swing the bat. Easy peasy.
