I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions
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I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
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My personal thought on the roman numerals is new tiers bronze (i) silver (II) gold (III) Diamond (IV) Prestige (V) it lines up neatly like that and means they don't have to change much just make things look different
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They need to change RS. They need to make it like Madden where they have the Super Bowl if you make it with presentation etc etc. They should make a 20-24 RS schedule and you would need to win 14+ to make it to the postseason. If you win 20+ you avoid the wildcare game. You can restart the season if you lose or started bad. I think right now it takes 20+ games to make it to WS from the lowest tier. This would still reset after 1 month like it currently is. But basically you can play multiple seasons via restarting the season until the following month when new rewards come out.
Then you have the different series and you would have to win 3/5, 4/7 of your next games to advance etc etc. You would play ppl that are on the same playoff series. Would be epic to make it to the WS and you would need to win 4/7 not 1 game like it is now. Kinda pointless you get all the WS rewards for only winning 1 game. Would make it more fun and realistic.
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Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
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@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
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@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
@charterbus_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
I hope this isn't the case for people who want to compete but don't have time to grind every week due to jobs. Definitely don't like the weekly idea.
Regardless what they do, everybody needs to start from bottom work thier way up every season no more of this BS of picking up where you left off that's crappy.
BR is to op on the rewards that needs to tie into event type rewards. jmho
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
@charterbus_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
I hope this isn't the case for people who want to compete but don't have time to grind every week due to jobs. Definitely don't like the weekly idea.
Regardless what they do, everybody needs to start from bottom work thier way up every season no more of this BS of picking up where you left off that's crappy.
BR is to op on the rewards that needs to tie into event type rewards. jmho
I agree that ppl shouldn’t be brought a tier down only — however if they do this I hope they really addressed the competitive way the game plays - playing on allstar or below can be brutal with outcomes these last few years and it honestly just makes me not want to play the game.
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@a_perfectgame said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
@charterbus_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
I hope this isn't the case for people who want to compete but don't have time to grind every week due to jobs. Definitely don't like the weekly idea.
Regardless what they do, everybody needs to start from bottom work thier way up every season no more of this BS of picking up where you left off that's crappy.
BR is to op on the rewards that needs to tie into event type rewards. jmho
I agree that ppl shouldn’t be brought a tier down only — however if they do this I hope they really addressed the competitive way the game plays - playing on allstar or below can be brutal with outcomes these last few years and it honestly just makes me not want to play the game.
Yeah it's really hard to try to figure out how to do things for everybody. Part of me wants pitching same as legend throughout, but the other part of me feels like if they did they would lose people in DD.
If they did Division type mode each season? Maybe a 7 game qualifier and win/loss determines what division you start out in perhaps? Like a WS atmospere best out of 7 type thing but 7 games total?
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@a_perfectgame said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
@charterbus_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
I hope this isn't the case for people who want to compete but don't have time to grind every week due to jobs. Definitely don't like the weekly idea.
Regardless what they do, everybody needs to start from bottom work thier way up every season no more of this BS of picking up where you left off that's crappy.
BR is to op on the rewards that needs to tie into event type rewards. jmho
I agree that ppl shouldn’t be brought a tier down only — however if they do this I hope they really addressed the competitive way the game plays - playing on allstar or below can be brutal with outcomes these last few years and it honestly just makes me not want to play the game.
Yeah it's really hard to try to figure out how to do things for everybody. Part of me wants pitching same as legend throughout, but the other part of me feels like if they did they would lose people in DD.
If they did Division type mode each season? Maybe a 7 game qualifier and win/loss determines what division you start out in perhaps? Like a WS atmospere best out of 7 type thing but 7 games total?
Yea that’s a good idea however what difficulty would the qualifier be in?
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@a_perfectgame said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@a_perfectgame said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@eldiegash_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I highly doubt they’ll mess with the fact that you can acquire the reward as soon as you get to the promise land (either 900 or division I) I think they’ll try to implement a FIFA type of division play.. again, just speculating!!!!!
Fifa type? I hate EA don't play EA Explain plz?
Basically it’s a division based system, where you play 10 games each season. A higher division will require you to win more games, if you get to a certain division (D2 in FIFA) you automatically qualify for the Weekend leagues , where they give you rewards based on your record. You can also qualify via an online tournament.
@charterbus_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
Whatever it is hopefully we’ve gotten away from the month long seasons. It’s a bit redundant, you end where you end. More season, more rewards please. And hopefully BR is still the over the top quality it’s always been.
I hope this isn't the case for people who want to compete but don't have time to grind every week due to jobs. Definitely don't like the weekly idea.
Regardless what they do, everybody needs to start from bottom work thier way up every season no more of this BS of picking up where you left off that's crappy.
BR is to op on the rewards that needs to tie into event type rewards. jmho
I agree that ppl shouldn’t be brought a tier down only — however if they do this I hope they really addressed the competitive way the game plays - playing on allstar or below can be brutal with outcomes these last few years and it honestly just makes me not want to play the game.
Yeah it's really hard to try to figure out how to do things for everybody. Part of me wants pitching same as legend throughout, but the other part of me feels like if they did they would lose people in DD.
If they did Division type mode each season? Maybe a 7 game qualifier and win/loss determines what division you start out in perhaps? Like a WS atmospere best out of 7 type thing but 7 games total?
Yea that’s a good idea however what difficulty would the qualifier be in?
I think AS for qualifier making it same oppurtunity for every1 is fair. We are talking DD some people will earn better cards quicker than others throughout giving them chance to advance to higher division.
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I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
*edit: I have no problem having the best/elite starting closer to the rewards there or on BR; if you’re great you deserve to be rewarded better or else what’s the motivation to keep playing?
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@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it.
If you are going to do competitive then do it! Don't half @ss it my opinion.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it. If you are going to do competitive then do it don't half @ss it my opinion.
I see of it more like relegation and promotion in soccer - I know, I know it's a different sport. As others have mentioned, maybe it's a series format per division, something like (including ST to fit the Roman numerals I-V narrative, in case it's related to RS):
- I ST (Veteran): 1st game in RS only
- II RS and AS(Veteran): win 3 games to promote (no relegation)
- III PR and WC (All-Star): win 3 games to promote / lose 2 game to relegate back earlier division
- IV DS and CS (HoF): win 4 games to promote / lose 3 game to relegate back earlier division
- V WS (Legend): play the rest of the season (no relegation) on this difficulty in Event style with XP, Stubs, and packs as additional rewards. This is where top players can duke it out for top 50
In DS and above, you drop down one division to begin the next season. So if you make WS, you only have to win 4 of 7 games in CS to "repeat." In WC and below, you start in the same division you finished.
Advantages:
- The top players will get to WS faster (which they are going to anyway), making AS and HoF divisions more tolerable at the beginning of each season.
- Quitting/Dashboarding (not a problem, IMO) is less incentivised because you have a finite number of tries before relegation
- Once you make to a division where the difficulty changes, you're guaranteed to play on that difficulty until you're relegated to a lower division and difficulty.
- Presumably more players make WS throughout the game cycle
I'm sure there are many reasons why this doesn't work, so let's discuss it.
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Repeat post - sorry.
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@wynsanity318 said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
My personal thought on the roman numerals is new tiers bronze (i) silver (II) gold (III) Diamond (IV) Prestige (V) it lines up neatly like that and means they don't have to change much just make things look different
Doesn't track.
I is green
II is orange/bronze
III is purple
IV is red
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@sbmnky_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it. If you are going to do competitive then do it don't half @ss it my opinion.
I see of it more like relegation and promotion in soccer - I know, I know it's a different sport. As others have mentioned, maybe it's a series format per division, something like (including ST to fit the Roman numerals I-V narrative, in case it's related to RS):
- I ST (Veteran): 1st game in RS only
- II RS and AS(Veteran): win 3 games to promote (no relegation)
- III PR and WC (All-Star): win 3 games to promote / lose 2 game to relegate back earlier division
- IV DS and CS (HoF): win 4 games to promote / lose 3 game to relegate back earlier division
- V WS (Legend): play the rest of the season (no relegation) on this difficulty in Event style with XP, Stubs, and packs as additional rewards. This is where top players can duke it out for top 50
In DS and above, you drop down one division to begin the next season. So if you make WS, you only have to win 4 of 7 games in CS to "repeat." In WC and below, you start in the same division you finished.
Advantages:
- The top players will get to WS faster (which they are going to anyway), making AS and HoF divisions more tolerable at the beginning of each season.
- Quitting/Dashboarding (not a problem, IMO) is less incentivised because you have a finite number of tries before relegation
- Once you make to a division where the difficulty changes, you're guaranteed to play on that difficulty until you're relegated to a lower division and difficulty.
- Presumably more players make WS throughout the game cycle
I'm sure there are many reasons why this doesn't work, so let's discuss it.
I don't mind that format over a period of time of more than a week. For reasons stated before, peoples schedule.
I will never be ok with someone starting closer to a reward based off of last outing. Every season start from scratch, that's why we earn rewards to see how team progressed from season to season. I'm pretty adamant about that.
But format wise It almost feels that way now? so now that i think about it needs more mixture to format.
Did you see my post about qualfiers at start of season?
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@sbmnky_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it. If you are going to do competitive then do it don't half @ss it my opinion.
I see of it more like relegation and promotion in soccer - I know, I know it's a different sport. As others have mentioned, maybe it's a series format per division, something like (including ST to fit the Roman numerals I-V narrative, in case it's related to RS):
- I ST (Veteran): 1st game in RS only
- II RS and AS(Veteran): win 3 games to promote (no relegation)
- III PR and WC (All-Star): win 3 games to promote / lose 2 game to relegate back earlier division
- IV DS and CS (HoF): win 4 games to promote / lose 3 game to relegate back earlier division
- V WS (Legend): play the rest of the season (no relegation) on this difficulty in Event style with XP, Stubs, and packs as additional rewards. This is where top players can duke it out for top 50
In DS and above, you drop down one division to begin the next season. So if you make WS, you only have to win 4 of 7 games in CS to "repeat." In WC and below, you start in the same division you finished.
Advantages:
- The top players will get to WS faster (which they are going to anyway), making AS and HoF divisions more tolerable at the beginning of each season.
- Quitting/Dashboarding (not a problem, IMO) is less incentivised because you have a finite number of tries before relegation
- Once you make to a division where the difficulty changes, you're guaranteed to play on that difficulty until you're relegated to a lower division and difficulty.
- Presumably more players make WS throughout the game cycle
I'm sure there are many reasons why this doesn't work, so let's discuss it.
I don't mind that format over a period of time of more than a week. For reasons stated before, peoples schedule.
I will never be ok with someone starting closer to a reward based off of last outing. Every season start from scratch, that's why we earn rewards to see how team progressed from season to season. I'm pretty adamant about that.
But format wise It almost feels that way now? so now that i think about it needs more mixture to format.
Did you see my post about qualfiers at start of season?
I would keep the seasons at 4 weeks; I agree that one week is too short for working people (non-COVID I'm traveling a ton).
Qualifying is it's an interesting idea, but it so hard to start at an easier difficulty that what you're accustomed to playing at. Not sure the 7 games will feel "real" if that makes sense. Maybe a small tweak is to play qualifiers against opponents that finished in the same division the pervious season?
Not trying to be a "tough-guy" with this question, but why are you so opposed to starting closer to the rewards? IMO, the seasons aren't far enough apart to restart the grind after only 4 weeks.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it.
If you are going to do competitive then do it! Don't half @ss it my opinion.
Well, you’re already knocked down 2 levels at the start of the new season. Plus, you can’t compare real life pro sports that has annual roster turnovers, aging, injuries and such to a video game with seasons that last a couple of weeks. I’ve seen too much boosting in other Ultimate Team formats because of this.
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@sbmnky_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@sbmnky_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@grizzbear55_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
@yankblan_psn said in I think Ranked Seasons will be now based on Divisions:
I think it would be bad if everyone started back down at Regular Season when it resets; most people hang around AS or WC; now every new season world beaters would go back down into that pool and beat up lesser players, making the separation even greater and turning away a lot of players.
Or they might lose b/c those players have been practicing? No i think you start square 1 every season.
How would you like it if the team in real life won the WS and the league said congrats on winning WS next years record don't count you are automatically in the playoffs? Earn your way back up it's a new season. That's how i see it. If you are going to do competitive then do it don't half @ss it my opinion.
I see of it more like relegation and promotion in soccer - I know, I know it's a different sport. As others have mentioned, maybe it's a series format per division, something like (including ST to fit the Roman numerals I-V narrative, in case it's related to RS):
- I ST (Veteran): 1st game in RS only
- II RS and AS(Veteran): win 3 games to promote (no relegation)
- III PR and WC (All-Star): win 3 games to promote / lose 2 game to relegate back earlier division
- IV DS and CS (HoF): win 4 games to promote / lose 3 game to relegate back earlier division
- V WS (Legend): play the rest of the season (no relegation) on this difficulty in Event style with XP, Stubs, and packs as additional rewards. This is where top players can duke it out for top 50
In DS and above, you drop down one division to begin the next season. So if you make WS, you only have to win 4 of 7 games in CS to "repeat." In WC and below, you start in the same division you finished.
Advantages:
- The top players will get to WS faster (which they are going to anyway), making AS and HoF divisions more tolerable at the beginning of each season.
- Quitting/Dashboarding (not a problem, IMO) is less incentivised because you have a finite number of tries before relegation
- Once you make to a division where the difficulty changes, you're guaranteed to play on that difficulty until you're relegated to a lower division and difficulty.
- Presumably more players make WS throughout the game cycle
I'm sure there are many reasons why this doesn't work, so let's discuss it.
I don't mind that format over a period of time of more than a week. For reasons stated before, peoples schedule.
I will never be ok with someone starting closer to a reward based off of last outing. Every season start from scratch, that's why we earn rewards to see how team progressed from season to season. I'm pretty adamant about that.
But format wise It almost feels that way now? so now that i think about it needs more mixture to format.
Did you see my post about qualfiers at start of season?
I would keep the seasons at 4 weeks; I agree that one week is too short for working people (non-COVID I'm traveling a ton).
Qualifying is it's an interesting idea, but it so hard to start at an easier difficulty that what you're accustomed to playing at. Not sure the 7 games will feel "real" if that makes sense. Maybe a small tweak is to play qualifiers against opponents that finished in the same division the pervious season?
Not trying to be a "tough-guy" with this question, but why are you so opposed to starting closer to the rewards? IMO, the seasons aren't far enough apart to restart the grind after only 4 weeks.
Not taking it as a "tough guy" remark no way shape or form.
Qualifiers against previous ranked is great balanced idea! I only said 7 qualifiers literally b/c it's baseball and WS is based off of best of 7. Just threw that number out there for baseball theme since theoretically you are trying to make it to WS rewards.
The reasoning for starting from scratch every season is essentially because the Idea behind Diamond Dynasty is to build fantasy team to see how you fare against others doing same. Starting from scratch allows oppurtunity to make tweaks to start of season after previous seasons reward unlocks. I just think when it comes to rewards especially ones able to sell on market it should be an even shot for every1. It also represents leaderboard better b/c you started from square 1 every season.
Example maybe you unlock the 42 series card for Yankees and I unlock 42 series for Red Sox or what have ya, and you have basically upgraded in a position that perhaps kept you from advancing to higher div. Previously. The qualifiers also opens doors for later in year with team builds and seeing div. Rivals from RL battling it out through the qualifiers would make for some good late year action.
You said season's aren't far enough apart as it is, so how is it fair to people who get stuck at AS season after season? Wouldn't qualfiers allow them to progress as thier gameplay does from exposure to more games and more reward unlocks each season? But if you make it to WS you technically probabally will still make it to WS, but then it will be based off qualifiers as to how close you start.
