Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19
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@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@drunk_wizard509 said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
20 has the most skill. Its because of covid that there are just so many people that put a lot of hours in that it created a lot of depth in the higher divisions. Covid really impacted the game this year imo
you are absolutely right - well said - i just pitched a perfect game in RS around a week ago - it was the mid 600's level - plenty of wizards in the game this year in 2020 you can really separate the quality levels even within AS but esp. HOF and Legend
Not even close...it’s the most unskill-based mlb ever. Even more then 18. And 18 was just bad in so many other ways.
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@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@drunk_wizard509 said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
20 has the most skill. Its because of covid that there are just so many people that put a lot of hours in that it created a lot of depth in the higher divisions. Covid really impacted the game this year imo
you are absolutely right - well said - i just pitched a perfect game in RS around a week ago - it was the mid 600's level - plenty of wizards in the game this year in 2020 you can really separate the quality levels even within AS but esp. HOF and Legend
Not even close...it’s the most unskill-based mlb ever. Even more then 18. And 18 was just bad in so many other ways.
im not going to argue with you because you are simply a random voice on the internet - i am sorry you are so upset about the 2020 game, but that other guy was absolutely right and you are wrong - i cant believe you said 18 was better than 20 LOL what a joke
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@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@drunk_wizard509 said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
20 has the most skill. Its because of covid that there are just so many people that put a lot of hours in that it created a lot of depth in the higher divisions. Covid really impacted the game this year imo
you are absolutely right - well said - i just pitched a perfect game in RS around a week ago - it was the mid 600's level - plenty of wizards in the game this year in 2020 you can really separate the quality levels even within AS but esp. HOF and Legend
Not even close...it’s the most unskill-based mlb ever. Even more then 18. And 18 was just bad in so many other ways.
im not going to argue with you because you are simply a random voice on the internet - i am sorry you are so upset about the 2020 game, but that other guy was absolutely right and you are wrong - i cant believe you said 18 was better than 20 LOL what a joke
Yea I’m def wrong about that. 18 is the worst game of all time. I got ahead of myself there.
But 19 I do feel like was better especially pitching. There is no doubt about it pitching was way better in 19. Unless you prefer to pick a spot with perfect timing and it go to a place it has no business going...like for example right down the middle. Because there is a good chance it might go there...hopefully not. Maybe it will just end up low enough for the guy who keeps dropping his pci to crush it. Depends where it feels like going.
But if it goes low enough...and it’s off speed to reach the dirt...don’t worry. Because his check swing skills will cover him. And if you are lucky enough to get it where you actually put it was way outside...on a 2-2 count...good thing for him. He didn’t recognize or care. Because he’s just swinging at every pitch. And he fouled that one off.
Rinse repeat until you are at 90 pitches by the third inning to get to a bullpen that really doesn’t have energy.
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@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@drunk_wizard509 said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
People only dislike 20 because they aren't as good as they think they are
No people like 20 because it’s given them a false representation of how good they are.
19 is actually more skill based then 20 is. 21 I believe will be the best mlb game yet.
I base this not only on the beta but going back to playing the games.
You couldn’t spam check swings or foul everything off in 19. It was a thing but not like 20z. I actually didn’t realize this until I just played it. And the pitching was way more fluid. You could get outs.
Line outs weren’t even as annoying imo because rewarding bad contact was not as prominent
So you are saying I made World Series in 16, 17, 18, 19 and then in 20. All those bad players all of sudden got better then me. Or they were actually better then me the entire time?? Interesting.
Guys that I ran through up until championship??? That’s silly and makes no logical sense.
The only argument that might make sense is that 20 has a meta that doesn’t fit my play style. I’m way early on everything and feel like I’m hitting knuckleball speed and usually start doing well around 700 but it’s way more challenging due to the combination of 1. Lineouts 2. Rewarding bad contact 3. Check swinging to stay alive. 4. Foul tipping.
20 is not even close to the pinnacle of skill imo.
I agree but remember that last year beta and early weekend play was great, then on Monday that patched and it sucked.
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Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
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I know i'm gonna regret saying this and probabally get slammed by every young person but i'm the type of person who tells it how it is.
The problem is not SDS. The problem is social media and the way today's society behaves. If you are a streamer or content creator with thousands watching you or even hundreds. Whether playing live or watching a recording and you find something wrong in game well all your viewers are seeing it too. It's like selling something and what is the best way to sell something? Word of mouth!!
Joe Blow post video how to make triple xp. How many people do you think are gonna watch it? And then someone watches it then tweets it and then gets re-tweeted and then put on facebook so on and so forth. Todays society you can't have anything nice because people don't have integrity and honestly don't know how to keep thier mouths shut!!
I hate to use this as an example but do you know why old fogies like me refer to the "good ol days of gaming." If something had to be figured out in a game you had to work to find out! Nowadays everything and every aspect of everthing gets put under a microscope and broken down and then it turns into 1 month old bread "Very stale"."
Anyway point is and tell your friends have some integrity! You find a flaw report it don't use it it is a very simple concept. But this is why we can't have nice things. And if i hurt your feeling b/c i talked bad about your life source of info well i really don't give a rat's @ss but for god sakes stop blaming SDS for everything.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
I know i'm gonna regret saying this and probabally get slammed by every young person but i'm the type of person who tells it how it is.
The problem is not SDS. The problem is social media and the way today's society behaves. If you are a streamer or content creator with thousands watching you or even hundreds. Whether playing live or watching a recording and you find something wrong in game well all your viewers are seeing it too. It's like selling something and what is the best way to sell something? Word of mouth!!
Joe Blow post video how to make triple xp. How many people do you think are gonna watch it? And then someone watches it then tweets it and then gets re-tweeted and then put on facebook so on and so forth. Todays society you can't have anything nice because people don't have integrity and honestly don't know how to keep thier mouths shut!!
I hate to use this as an example but do you know why old fogies like me refer to the "good ol days of gaming." If something had to be figured out in a game you had to work to find out! Nowadays everything and every aspect of everthing gets put under a microscope and broken down and then it turns into 1 month old bread "Very stale"."
Anyway point is and tell your friends have some integrity! You find a flaw report it don't use it it is a very simple concept. But this is why we can't have nice things. And if i hurt your feeling b/c i talked bad about your life source of info well i really don't give a rat's @ss but for god sakes stop blaming SDS for everything.
Pretty sure the contra code was in Nintendo Power.
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@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@drunk_wizard509 said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
20 has the most skill. Its because of covid that there are just so many people that put a lot of hours in that it created a lot of depth in the higher divisions. Covid really impacted the game this year imo
you are absolutely right - well said - i just pitched a perfect game in RS around a week ago - it was the mid 600's level - plenty of wizards in the game this year in 2020 you can really separate the quality levels even within AS but esp. HOF and Legend
Not even close...it’s the most unskill-based mlb ever. Even more then 18. And 18 was just bad in so many other ways.
im not going to argue with you because you are simply a random voice on the internet - i am sorry you are so upset about the 2020 game, but that other guy was absolutely right and you are wrong - i cant believe you said 18 was better than 20 LOL what a joke
Yea I’m def wrong about that. 18 is the worst game of all time. I got ahead of myself there.
But 19 I do feel like was better especially pitching. There is no doubt about it pitching was way better in 19. Unless you prefer to pick a spot with perfect timing and it go to a place it has no business going...like for example right down the middle. Because there is a good chance it might go there...hopefully not. Maybe it will just end up low enough for the guy who keeps dropping his pci to crush it. Depends where it feels like going.
But if it goes low enough...and it’s off speed to reach the dirt...don’t worry. Because his check swing skills will cover him. And if you are lucky enough to get it where you actually put it was way outside...on a 2-2 count...good thing for him. He didn’t recognize or care. Because he’s just swinging at every pitch. And he fouled that one off.
Rinse repeat until you are at 90 pitches by the third inning to get to a bullpen that really doesn’t have energy.
no offence at all here mate but that sounds horrible for your pitching - i regularly rake in pitching, i am on meter - i did a perfect game with chris sale around 600's RS , on all star just a couple weeks ago (streamed), another game 16K's in 6 innings with kershaw, the list goes on and on - i have wade davis CP at 0.45 ERA after 30 games in RS - all screenshots and live stream videos to back it up..... - most of these stats are on AS mode !!!!
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@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
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@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
Lol, I put the work in. I’ve had success in mlb the show. I’m not a fan of the randomized game play. You guys are hell bent on not accepting that but it was talked about extensively in the last stream. “We wanted people to feel like their user input was rewarded...so we made it so the inputs are not random”
They also go on to saying head to head was mostly simulated.
Do you guys listen to streams or no?
Pitching is really bad in this game. On meter I hit PERFECT releases and get lobbed balls directly down the middle of the plate. This isn’t me “crying” that’s WHAT HAPPENS. They’ve completely admitted it. They changed the entire head to head game because of it... why are you guys ignoring this?
I didn’t experience these things in the beta...
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@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
Lol, I put the work in. I’ve had success in mlb the show. I’m not a fan of the randomized game play. You guys are hell bent on not accepting that but it was talked about extensively in the last stream. “We wanted people to feel like their user input was rewarded...so we made it so the inputs are not random”
They also go on to saying head to head was mostly simulated.
Do you guys listen to streams or no?
Pitching is really bad in this game. On meter I hit PERFECT releases and get lobbed balls directly down the middle of the plate. This isn’t me “crying” that’s WHAT HAPPENS. They’ve completely admitted it. They changed the entire head to head game because of it... why are you guys ignoring this?
I didn’t experience these things in the beta...
Are you ignoring the size of par for the non-pinpoint options? They made analog and meter essentially random with “perfect” input for 21 (ie forcing you to use the shiny new option that requires a perfect right stick on the controller).
Also, anyone else notice that the pitch movements in pinpoint are just the old street fighter turbo special moves from snes.
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@gradekthebard said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@grizzbear55_psn said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
I know i'm gonna regret saying this and probabally get slammed by every young person but i'm the type of person who tells it how it is.
The problem is not SDS. The problem is social media and the way today's society behaves. If you are a streamer or content creator with thousands watching you or even hundreds. Whether playing live or watching a recording and you find something wrong in game well all your viewers are seeing it too. It's like selling something and what is the best way to sell something? Word of mouth!!
Joe Blow post video how to make triple xp. How many people do you think are gonna watch it? And then someone watches it then tweets it and then gets re-tweeted and then put on facebook so on and so forth. Todays society you can't have anything nice because people don't have integrity and honestly don't know how to keep thier mouths shut!!
I hate to use this as an example but do you know why old fogies like me refer to the "good ol days of gaming." If something had to be figured out in a game you had to work to find out! Nowadays everything and every aspect of everthing gets put under a microscope and broken down and then it turns into 1 month old bread "Very stale"."
Anyway point is and tell your friends have some integrity! You find a flaw report it don't use it it is a very simple concept. But this is why we can't have nice things. And if i hurt your feeling b/c i talked bad about your life source of info well i really don't give a rat's @ss but for god sakes stop blaming SDS for everything.
Pretty sure the contra code was in Nintendo Power.
Yeah there were books that were sold for codes you could buy for 40 bucks too. But you still had to input code at certain point and a certain amount of time.
But the difference is people are exploiting things that are not supposed to be exploited. SDS didn't say if you can figure out how to checkswing without it being a strike congrats you found the secret! There is a difference in what i'm saying and what you're saying.
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@gradekthebard said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
Lol, I put the work in. I’ve had success in mlb the show. I’m not a fan of the randomized game play. You guys are hell bent on not accepting that but it was talked about extensively in the last stream. “We wanted people to feel like their user input was rewarded...so we made it so the inputs are not random”
They also go on to saying head to head was mostly simulated.
Do you guys listen to streams or no?
Pitching is really bad in this game. On meter I hit PERFECT releases and get lobbed balls directly down the middle of the plate. This isn’t me “crying” that’s WHAT HAPPENS. They’ve completely admitted it. They changed the entire head to head game because of it... why are you guys ignoring this?
I didn’t experience these things in the beta...
Are you ignoring the size of par for the non-pinpoint options? They made analog and meter essentially random with “perfect” input for 21 (ie forcing you to use the shiny new option that requires a perfect right stick on the controller).
Also, anyone else notice that the pitch movements in pinpoint are just the old street fighter turbo special moves from snes.
I saw the meter PAR was bigger but Goodluck consistently getting perfect on pinpoint. Personally I find that pitching interface extremely hard— so it’s a give and take. If you can hit those pinpoints you kind of deserve the best accuracy because being accurate is hard.
I’ll take a little movement of the ball i don’t mind that. What i mind is when I choose a low and outside pitch...hit my meter perfect and it lobs down the middle. I didn’t experience this in 21s beta
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@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
Lol, I put the work in. I’ve had success in mlb the show. I’m not a fan of the randomized game play. You guys are hell bent on not accepting that but it was talked about extensively in the last stream. “We wanted people to feel like their user input was rewarded...so we made it so the inputs are not random”
They also go on to saying head to head was mostly simulated.
Do you guys listen to streams or no?
Pitching is really bad in this game. On meter I hit PERFECT releases and get lobbed balls directly down the middle of the plate. This isn’t me “crying” that’s WHAT HAPPENS. They’ve completely admitted it. They changed the entire head to head game because of it... why are you guys ignoring this?
I didn’t experience these things in the beta...
you didn't even address my other post which spoke about my pitching and how it works just fine
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@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@a_perfectgame said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@thehungryhole said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
@the_canuckler said in Went back and played 16,17,18 and 19:
Too many people judge games based on if they’re able to get wins or not
️absolutely mate, its this baby culture we have today of crying without putting the work in
Lol, I put the work in. I’ve had success in mlb the show. I’m not a fan of the randomized game play. You guys are hell bent on not accepting that but it was talked about extensively in the last stream. “We wanted people to feel like their user input was rewarded...so we made it so the inputs are not random”
They also go on to saying head to head was mostly simulated.
Do you guys listen to streams or no?
Pitching is really bad in this game. On meter I hit PERFECT releases and get lobbed balls directly down the middle of the plate. This isn’t me “crying” that’s WHAT HAPPENS. They’ve completely admitted it. They changed the entire head to head game because of it... why are you guys ignoring this?
I didn’t experience these things in the beta...
you didn't even address my other post which spoke about my pitching and how it works just fine
The pitching in 20 is really bad actually. Theyve completely admitted this. The ball going all over the place I’m fine with but missed spots get pulled to the middle. They nick named it “gravity ball” for a reason. Are you denying that this happens? And not only does it happen...but several times a game...and not only does it happen several times a game...it’s on literal perfect meters. Which makes no sense at all. If we had to keep this hitting the way it is and they just fixed pitching the game would work way better. The pitching imo is the most broken aspect of the game.
Like I’ve stated in the past lineouts are annoying but the combination of lining out with the balls being purposely missed over the plate for no user input reason is tragic for gameplay.
Everyone is ignoring the fact that mlb the show has been mostly a baseball sim for awhile now.
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