Chipper Update
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Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
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@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Refusing to fulfill orders to stub buyers is somehow going to INCREASE the number of stub buyers?
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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@SaveFarris said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Refusing to fulfill orders to stub buyers is somehow going to INCREASE the number of stub buyers?
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
They have an order up for 1000000 stubs that will be there for a few months, but they want to buy some more players in the meantime, how do you think they are going to do it?
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SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine! -
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!Lack of evidence for one thing does not equate to sufficient evidence of another.
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@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
My dad teaches communication in college, and just said that he teaches his students that. You have to have good communication, which SDS had, but not lately.
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Naaaah. Nobody’s buying 1m stubs for $650 just to wait in line for Chipper. If anything, it would have the opposite effect. I’ve spoken about this before. Last years content model was more geared towards driving micro transactions, in my opinion, they gave you three bosses in each inning who were generally very good (think 6th inning, Alomar, Verlander, Henderson, for one). As you could only earn one, if you wanted the other two, you’d have to buy them. If you were on the fence or only liked two of them, they offered you the 75 program star voucher and 30000 stubs as a further incentive to collect all three.
Now, as a stub buying player, which is more tempting? To buy 150000 stubs (on sale, at 50% maybe?) to get a 99 overall card like Rickey Henderson instantly, or to drop $650 to wait around for weeks and still not get to use your card? Or if you can’t make WS, don’t have a lot of time to flip cards and you wanted a card like SS Chris Sale today? He’s going to cost you $450 this year. For a card you can only use once every three or four games. I don’t think this years content model is suited to driving micro transactions, certainly not as well as last year. Last year the higher end content was very accessible to players of all levels, be that via spending real money or spending time playing. This year, not so much.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
So you think a business built on making as much money as possible doing something to make more money is a conspiracy theory?
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@ComebackLogic said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Naaaah. Nobody’s buying 1m stubs for $650 just to wait in line for Chipper. If anything, it would have the opposite effect. I’ve spoken about this before. Last years content model was more geared towards driving micro transactions, in my opinion, they gave you three bosses in each inning who were generally very good (think 6th inning, Alomar, Verlander, Henderson, for one). As you could only earn one, if you wanted the other two, you’d have to buy them. If you were on the fence or only liked two of them, they offered you the 75 program star voucher and 30000 stubs as a further incentive to collect all three.
Now, as a stub buying player, which is more tempting? To buy 150000 stubs (on sale, at 50% maybe?) to get a 99 overall card like Rickey Henderson instantly, or to drop $650 to wait around for weeks and still not get to use your card? Or if you can’t make WS, don’t have a lot of time to flip cards and you wanted a card like SS Chris Sale today? He’s going to cost you $450 this year. For a card you can only use once every three or four games. I don’t think this years content model is suited to driving micro transactions, certainly not as well as last year. Last year the higher end content was very accessible to players of all levels, be that via spending real money or spending time playing. This year, not so much.
I think the key here is you’re assuming they bought the stubs to buy chipper. I’m assuming they will buy stubs to buy players while they wait on chipper. There are what, 360 1m stub orders right now? That’s a lot of stubs out of the market
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
So you think a business built on making as much money as possible doing something to make more money is a conspiracy theory?
It’s not. It’s what businesses do.
People are accusing them of filling orders on their own and giving them to content creators.
How would that maximize profit? It doesn’t.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
So you think a business built on making as much money as possible doing something to make more money is a conspiracy theory?
It’s not. It’s what businesses do.
People are accusing them of filling orders on their own and giving them to content creators.
How would that maximize profit? It doesn’t.
I personally don’t buy in to the content creator theory, I threw it out there as something companies have done in the past. But, You see your favorite content creator with the chipper, so you put your 1 million stub order in for chipper, then they drop finest and you want to get some finest cards, guess you have to buy some stubs since your stubs are tied up in your chipper order. That’s a 100% smart business model, even you would have to agree with that
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@ComebackLogic said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Naaaah. Nobody’s buying 1m stubs for $650 just to wait in line for Chipper. If anything, it would have the opposite effect. I’ve spoken about this before. Last years content model was more geared towards driving micro transactions, in my opinion, they gave you three bosses in each inning who were generally very good (think 6th inning, Alomar, Verlander, Henderson, for one). As you could only earn one, if you wanted the other two, you’d have to buy them. If you were on the fence or only liked two of them, they offered you the 75 program star voucher and 30000 stubs as a further incentive to collect all three.
Now, as a stub buying player, which is more tempting? To buy 150000 stubs (on sale, at 50% maybe?) to get a 99 overall card like Rickey Henderson instantly, or to drop $650 to wait around for weeks and still not get to use your card? Or if you can’t make WS, don’t have a lot of time to flip cards and you wanted a card like SS Chris Sale today? He’s going to cost you $450 this year. For a card you can only use once every three or four games. I don’t think this years content model is suited to driving micro transactions, certainly not as well as last year. Last year the higher end content was very accessible to players of all levels, be that via spending real money or spending time playing. This year, not so much.
I think the key here is you’re assuming they bought the stubs to buy chipper. I’m assuming they will buy stubs to buy players while they wait on chipper. There are what, 360 1m stub orders right now? That’s a lot of stubs out of the market
It’s not enough. They need to release a super expensive collection or exchange for something. Otherwise, the rampant hyper inflation and demand heavily outweighing supply will continue to influence the market in a manner that is going to be off putting to casual players and newcomers - Basically the stub buying quotient of the player base - who will feel like it’s pointless playing because they can’t ever obtain the cards they want to play with.
Edit: Just to add, I have all the cards I want like Chipper and Alomar etc. Personally I don’t care, just in case anyone thinks it’s sour grapes at not being able to obtain these cards. I’m just trying to be objective and see it from a casuals point of view.
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@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
So you think a business built on making as much money as possible doing something to make more money is a conspiracy theory?
It’s not. It’s what businesses do.
People are accusing them of filling orders on their own and giving them to content creators.
How would that maximize profit? It doesn’t.
I personally don’t buy in to the content creator theory, I threw it out there as something companies have done in the past. But, You see your favorite content creator with the chipper, so you put your 1 million stub order in for chipper, then they drop finest and you want to get some finest cards, guess you have to buy some stubs since your stubs are tied up in your chipper order. That’s a 100% smart business model, even you would have to agree with that
Making Chipper a BR reward was the money move. Risking the loyalty of players to pull some crazy stuff like you’re suggesting, which is unlikely to payoff anyway, is not a smart business model.
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@ComebackLogic said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@ComebackLogic said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@OreoRockstar said in Chipper Update:
Current going rate for 1000000 stubs is a bit over $650 🤪
Real easy way for SDS to get $650 out of somebody if they never have to fulfill the order because there is no evidence that any have sold
Naaaah. Nobody’s buying 1m stubs for $650 just to wait in line for Chipper. If anything, it would have the opposite effect. I’ve spoken about this before. Last years content model was more geared towards driving micro transactions, in my opinion, they gave you three bosses in each inning who were generally very good (think 6th inning, Alomar, Verlander, Henderson, for one). As you could only earn one, if you wanted the other two, you’d have to buy them. If you were on the fence or only liked two of them, they offered you the 75 program star voucher and 30000 stubs as a further incentive to collect all three.
Now, as a stub buying player, which is more tempting? To buy 150000 stubs (on sale, at 50% maybe?) to get a 99 overall card like Rickey Henderson instantly, or to drop $650 to wait around for weeks and still not get to use your card? Or if you can’t make WS, don’t have a lot of time to flip cards and you wanted a card like SS Chris Sale today? He’s going to cost you $450 this year. For a card you can only use once every three or four games. I don’t think this years content model is suited to driving micro transactions, certainly not as well as last year. Last year the higher end content was very accessible to players of all levels, be that via spending real money or spending time playing. This year, not so much.
I think the key here is you’re assuming they bought the stubs to buy chipper. I’m assuming they will buy stubs to buy players while they wait on chipper. There are what, 360 1m stub orders right now? That’s a lot of stubs out of the market
It’s not enough. They need to release a super expensive collection or exchange for something. Otherwise, the rampant hyper inflation and demand heavily outweighing supply will continue to influence the market in a manner that is going to be off putting to casual players and newcomers - Basically the stub buying quotient of the player base - who will feel like it’s pointless playing because they can’t ever obtain the cards they want to play with.
Would finest qualify?
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
@MrTRogers said in Chipper Update:
@jz2016cubs said in Chipper Update:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Chipper Update:
SDS is clearly trading Chipper cards for child [censored] slaves because the pizza shop was becoming too inconvenient.
Really, though. Can your people stop with the conspiracy garbage? So gd gullible.
There has to be some sketchy reason that we can't see it.
The only reason we think it is sketchy is because they haven't told us anything about it.
If they told us something, it would be fine!This. Transparency is key in a business, which is what this is. If the buyer doesn’t have all of the information, they should naturally be skeptical of what the seller is doing with their product. That’s how you avoid getting taken advantage of in a capitalist economy
Belief in conspiracy theories is the polar opposite of skepticism.
So you think a business built on making as much money as possible doing something to make more money is a conspiracy theory?
It’s not. It’s what businesses do.
People are accusing them of filling orders on their own and giving them to content creators.
How would that maximize profit? It doesn’t.
I personally don’t buy in to the content creator theory, I threw it out there as something companies have done in the past. But, You see your favorite content creator with the chipper, so you put your 1 million stub order in for chipper, then they drop finest and you want to get some finest cards, guess you have to buy some stubs since your stubs are tied up in your chipper order. That’s a 100% smart business model, even you would have to agree with that
Making Chipper a BR reward was the money move. Risking the loyalty of players to pull some crazy stuff like you’re suggesting, which is unlikely to payoff anyway, is not a smart business model.
Then they should have no problem being transparent about it. But as long as they aren’t transparent, it opens the door for the customers to rightfully question things
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Wonder if time zones affect the timestamps. There’s no reason why I shouldn’t have him by now