Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again)
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@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@aam34 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@phillydave35 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Maybe, but he was keeping them in it. 1 run on 1 hit isn’t going to win much. Their offense needs to wake up.
GREAT POINT. He did his job in my opinion. The bullpen and the offense did not have his back last night!
No he did not.
He did his job through 5 innings.
The 6th inning DID happen. He surrendered a hit to Acuna and doubles to Freeman and Ozuna.
You can't blame the error advancing Acuna to second, he would have scored on Freeman's double. And Ozuna would have certainly driven him in on his double.Even if Graterol would have shut the Braves down, it would have been 3-1 after 6 innings.
Roberts is the issue here. He took a banged up, fading veteran and got greedy and tried to run him out there for one more inning.
Shows you how little faith he has in his pen.
Can't even blame NL strategy since there is a universal DH.Kershaw is like the race horse that will run until he collapses. It is up to his proverbial jockey (Roberts) to know when to pull in the reins.
Kershaw didnt fail the Dodgers. Roberts and by extension the Dodgers failed Kershaw.
If the error does not happen than it is possible neither does the double by Freeman, Now it does not matter.
The error had no bearing on the double.
The question is would the runner have scored on a double from first?
The runner was Acuna and with his speed it is not a stretch to say he would have scored from first.
If the runner was Ozuna then you have an argument.Acuna is one of the faster baserunners in baseball. He has shown his speed through out the playoffs. And he is a super aggressive baserunner and we know Washington would have waved him home.
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I would say his is still a 2 or 3, Buehler is the ace on the dodgers . In the post season I trust Kershaw for One good outing and Urias has been great.
Sorry brother, but Kershaw at this point is a 4 at best.
He cant be counted on to take the mound every 5th day and when he does expecting more than 5 innings or 2 times through a lineup is not realistic.Can he have a good day and provide us a glimpse of what he once was?
Absolutely
He is simply not consistent enough to be relied on so heavily.
The Dodgers need to find a pitcher, preferably on a short term deal, until more prospects develop.Bauer wants big money but he wants a 1 yr deal. $30-35m for one yr?
Sign him.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@aam34 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@phillydave35 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Maybe, but he was keeping them in it. 1 run on 1 hit isn’t going to win much. Their offense needs to wake up.
GREAT POINT. He did his job in my opinion. The bullpen and the offense did not have his back last night!
No he did not.
He did his job through 5 innings.
The 6th inning DID happen. He surrendered a hit to Acuna and doubles to Freeman and Ozuna.
You can't blame the error advancing Acuna to second, he would have scored on Freeman's double. And Ozuna would have certainly driven him in on his double.Even if Graterol would have shut the Braves down, it would have been 3-1 after 6 innings.
Roberts is the issue here. He took a banged up, fading veteran and got greedy and tried to run him out there for one more inning.
Shows you how little faith he has in his pen.
Can't even blame NL strategy since there is a universal DH.Kershaw is like the race horse that will run until he collapses. It is up to his proverbial jockey (Roberts) to know when to pull in the reins.
Kershaw didnt fail the Dodgers. Roberts and by extension the Dodgers failed Kershaw.
If the error does not happen than it is possible neither does the double by Freeman, Now it does not matter.
The error had no bearing on the double.
The question is would the runner have scored on a double from first?
The runner was Acuna and with his speed it is not a stretch to say he would have scored from first.
If the runner was Ozuna then you have an argument.Acuna is one of the faster baserunners in baseball. He has shown his speed through out the playoffs. And he is a super aggressive baserunner and we know Washington would have waved him home.
\Disagree, The defense would have been set differently and the pitch could have been different. How you pitch a guy with runner of first and runner in scoring position is different and defenses now play different with all the shifts. If Freeman still hits a double yeah it is a possible he would have scored.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
I would say his is still a 2 or 3, Buehler is the ace on the dodgers . In the post season I trust Kershaw for One good outing and Urias has been great.
Sorry brother, but Kershaw at this point is a 4 at best.
He cant be counted to take the mound every 5th day and when he does expecting more than 5 innings or 2 times through a lineup is not realistic.Can he have a good day and provide us a glimpse of what he once was?
Absolutely
He is simply not consistent enough to be relied on so heavily.
The Dodgers need to find a pitcher, preferably on a short term deal, until more prospects develop.Bauer wants big money but he wants a 1 yr deal. $30-35m for one yr?
Sign him.
Morton, if he doesnt retire, is a great 1 or 2 yr deal type starter as well.I will agree on the innings but on the dodgers he is still a 2 OR 3 he still had an excellent year this year.
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I can’t believe someone said Kershaws 4+ era isn’t that bad in the Playoffs . For the ace that he was he should’ve been dominating hitters instead of crumbling in key moments of the game. I’ve watched almost all of his playoff games and most of those are him holding on to his knees after the other team starts scoring on him. A true postseason ace would hold hitters to low runs in multiple games like Verlander, Cole, Postseason Tanaka before 2020. Theres a reason why I’ve called him Chokeshaw before. The man isn’t consistent in the playoffs.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@DiddyKlunk said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
My Kershaw memories in the playoffs tend to be the bullpen letting runners score such as today. By no means is he lights out, but let's also realize such as in 2019 he got his one out of the bullpen there is no need to have him return after he retires his one batter. I remember Baez coming in and blowing it after or like Brusdar today coughing up runners on base. My next question would be is Mike Trout an all time great because he's 1-10 in postseason and can't even get there or Degrom who has a 7.20 era in one WS start in his only postseason appearance? We can punish Kershaw for all the blow ups but he's also had more chances than someone like Degrom or Trout.
You can’t blame Trout and Degrom for not having any chances. The Mets and Angels have had some of the worst front offices in professional sports history for the last 20 years. This isn’t basketball. One great player can’t carry a team to the playoffs in a 162 game season. TBH Trout and Degrom have pretty much kept their teams from being the Tigers, Orioles, or Pirates the last 5 years
Agree 100%
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