Pulling outside pitches for doubles.
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The amount of people that think some pitches are impossible to hit/pull is mystifying.
"I threw this pitch here, so it should only be "x" outcome"
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A very okay swing that goes out for a no doubter gets to me because that swing type is rewarded yet a good squared is often an out
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@mitchhammond24 said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
A very okay swing that goes out for a no doubter gets to me because that swing type is rewarded yet a good squared is often an out
In 19 it wasn't rewarded, in the beta it was and if the release game is only half as good as beta, we should all be pleased.
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@JustASeal0 said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
Altuve pulled an outside slider for a homerun off of one of the best relievers in baseball
Get your trash can and buzzer jokes out now
Lol, except that was a dead hanging slider over the plate. Not outside. Outter part of the plate but not outside.
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Outer part of the plate is outside, then you have away out of the zone.
if someone doesn't provide context between the two it's hard to determine which they meant. -
I know 17 was far from perfect, but that's the last year as far as I can remember where swinging early on outside pitches would roll you over pretty much all the time.
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It just seems pitching in this games is almost useless, Balls that are practically bouncing before the plate get hit for HR's or to the gap for Doubles, pitches way out of the zone get hit easily, i understand pulling a pitch on the corner or inches off but some of the pitches I throw I can only laugh when it gets hit for HR's. Hitters get rewarded way more than pitchers in this game. Can the strike zone for Online just be one strike zone, give the pitcher the edges. I can paint the corners all day but less than half will be called strikes that is what is frustrating when pitching.
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Welcome to the Juiced Ball Era.
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@PAinPA said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
Outer part of the plate is outside, then you have away out of the zone.
if someone doesn't provide context between the two it's hard to determine which they meant.Outside means just that. Outside the plate. If it was over the plate it would be on the outside corner. Outer part of the plate is outer part of the plate. C’mon guys.
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@abbyspapa said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
Someone needs to watch some Vladdy Guerrero clips. That beast could pull a pitch for a double (often more) if it was 2 feet outside/inside/high/low.
Yes, Vladdy was even able to hit pitches that bounced off the dirt. That doesn't mean that it should be possible/should happen frequently in a competitive video game.
If pitches outside the zone can be consistently hit for power then what advantage is left for the pitcher? In order for pitching to make any sense, swinging on pitches outside the zone has to be punished, not rewarded.
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@SefarR said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
@abbyspapa said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
Someone needs to watch some Vladdy Guerrero clips. That beast could pull a pitch for a double (often more) if it was 2 feet outside/inside/high/low.
Yes, Vladdy was even able to hit pitches that bounced off the dirt. That doesn't mean that it should be possible/should happen frequently in a competitive video game.
If pitches outside the zone can be consistently hit for power then what advantage is left for the pitcher? In order for pitching to make any sense, swinging on pitches outside the zone has to be punished, not rewarded.
This is 100% accurate
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I googled it for certainty. 33-36 refers to the weight not length, there was no indication of size except a maximum allowed of 42 inches in length.
most batters stand near the line of the box, there is 6 inches between the batters box and the plate,plate is 17 inches wide ,which means a batter standing near the line on full extension can get the bat 8-10 inches into the other batters box.(and that doesn't account for the batters arm length)
I agree that only the top hitters/ top vision guys should be able to hit pitches like that, but to say it should be impossible..... the bat is clearly long enough to reach. -
Sorry man. The 33-36 absolutely has to do with length. For example, when your kid starts playing in a wood bat league, he will probably use a 32” -3 bat. The minus three indicates the weight which would be, in this case, 29 ounces. 32” long minus three= 29 ounces.
I don’t know if you’ve swung a bat much, but a 34 is a pretty manly bat. A 36 even more so. So yeah, 33-36 is for sure length. A 36 would weigh 36-3=33 ounces.
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@PAinPA said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
I googled it for certainty. 33-36 refers to the weight not length, there was no indication of size except a maximum allowed of 42 inches in length.
most batters stand near the line of the box, there is 6 inches between the batters box and the plate,plate is 17 inches wide ,which means a batter standing near the line on full extension can get the bat 8-10 inches into the other batters box.(and that doesn't account for the batters arm length)
I agree that only the top hitters/ top vision guys should be able to hit pitches like that, but to say it should be impossible..... the bat is clearly long enough to reach.Yes, MLB players can hit pitches outside the zone IRL. That's not the point. Did you even read my last comment?
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Oh, the other part of this is that to pull a ball, the batter has to hit it out in front of the plate, so the whole inches measuring into the other batter’s box is also kind of wrong.
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@halfbutt said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
Sorry man. The 33-36 absolutely has to do with length. For example, when your kid starts playing in a wood bat league, he will probably use a 32” -3 bat. The minus three indicates the weight which would be, in this case, 29 ounces. 32” long minus three= 29 ounces.
I don’t know if you’ve swung a bat much, but a 34 is a pretty manly bat. A 36 even more so. So yeah, 33-36 is for sure length. A 36 would weigh 36-3=33 ounces.
Are wood bats in the majors also -3 then? I'm interested now
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My understanding is that MLB bats have to be at least -3 weight drop. I guess that means theoretically they are allowed to be heavier but not lighter than -3.
Maybe there are some guys on here who have played above college level that can comment.
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@PAinPA said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
I googled it for certainty. 33-36 refers to the weight not length, there was no indication of size except a maximum allowed of 42 inches in length.
most batters stand near the line of the box, there is 6 inches between the batters box and the plate,plate is 17 inches wide ,which means a batter standing near the line on full extension can get the bat 8-10 inches into the other batters box.(and that doesn't account for the batters arm length)
I agree that only the top hitters/ top vision guys should be able to hit pitches like that, but to say it should be impossible..... the bat is clearly long enough to reach.So reward them with HR's? High and outside or up and in or above the head and still hit for HR's?
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@dbarmonstar said in Pulling outside pitches for doubles.:
So reward them with HR's? High and outside or up and in or above the head and still hit for HR's?
I've only been to about 15 MLB games and I've seen all 3 of those pitches get raked live, so it does happen. And unless those pitches get spammed, those things aren't all that common unless you're playing an elite hitter.
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Wood bats are typically - 2 but can also be - 0 or weigh more than the length. The maximum allowable in most adult wood bat leagues (including mlb) is a - 3
