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I didn't really play BR in the beta, which I highly regret, but I'm curious what the new strategy will be for drafting with the new 3 batter minimum rule? Bronzes in the rotation? Mix of bronze, silver, maybe a gold? Still a common rotation and loading up the lineup? A fair balanced team? What do you think?
@MrGamebred said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?:
Has it been confirmed yet that they will imply this new rule in BR or is it just logical speculation? I can see how they force this new rule into a 9 inning RS game, but it kinda kills the identity of BR a little bit. Not saying I'm for or against it per se, I'm just curious if they made a decision on this because I'm sure this has crossed their minds as well.
@raesONE said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?:
100% speculation/assumption. Just seen some people chatting about it. You're right though, it'd change the game completely, but I wouldn't put it past them to try and "spice" things up and try it out.
@raesONE said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: Has it been confirmed yet that they will imply this new rule in BR or is it just logical speculation? I can see how they force this new rule into a 9 inning RS game, but it kinda kills the identity of BR a little bit. Not saying I'm for or against it per se, I'm just curious if they made a decision on this because I'm sure this has crossed their minds as well. 100% speculation/assumption. Just seen some people chatting about it. You're right though, it'd change the game completely, but I wouldn't put it past them to try and "spice" things up and try it out.
Gotcha. If they will imply this, I'll fill out my rotation looking for glitchy silvers and maybe even a bronze or two who either have good 9s, good pitch repertoires or a funky delivery to be somewhat comfortable pitching for an inning. I feel like drafting golds is a waste when you play on All-Star and drafting a diamond SP is definitely out of the question.
I’m not buying MLB 20, but if I did I would still pick commons or bronzes for the rotation in BR. Even if they have the 3 batter minimum rule, it is still better to save the higher overalls for guys who will have more of an impact and are able to be used every game. I would never intentionally waste a silver, gold, or diamond pick on a starting pitcher that I may never use within a run based on the way their “randomization” works.
Plus, in BR you can junkball with a garbage starter for a full inning without giving up too many if any runs. Just think of the events from the past with all common or bronze pitchers. Sure, there was more offense but I still did well enough pitching.
I have a feeling most people will follow this same logic, which means you’ll be on even footing with your opponent anyway.
@PennStateFencer said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?:
I’m not buying MLB 20, but if I did I would still pick commons or bronzes for the rotation in BR. Even if they have the 3 batter minimum rule, it is still better to save the higher overalls for guys who will have more of an impact and are able to be used every game. I would never intentionally waste a silver, gold, or diamond pick on a starting pitcher that I may never use within a run based on the way their “randomization” works. Plus, in BR you can junkball with a garbage starter for a full inning without giving up too many if any runs. Just think of the events from the past with all common or bronze pitchers. Sure, there was more offense but I still did well enough pitching. I have a feeling most people will follow this same logic, which means you’ll be on even footing with your opponent anyway.
I don't know about that man, I give up a bomb or an XBH on over 70% on the first at bat with my common pitcher. The problem is that you can hit the ball out even if you're late/early or with terrible placement due to the horrendous ratings.
If you add that up with the fact that most guys will have their best hitters in the 1-4 spot, I think it would be a poor strategy to go with common/bronze pitchers to face all those guys in the first inning. I rather give up a few silvers and draft some good hitting bronzes for the lineup.
I played BR in the Beta and without saying too much, it was either absolute mayhem or 0-0 through four innings, depending on draft methodology some of the new MLB rule changes
@LankyRyan said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?:
I played BR in the Beta and without saying too much, it was either absolute mayhem or 0-0 through four innings, depending on draft methodology with the 3 batter minimum.
So you're saying that the 3 batter minimum was indeed enforced in BR?
@PennStateFencer said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: I’m not buying MLB 20, but if I did I would still pick commons or bronzes for the rotation in BR. Even if they have the 3 batter minimum rule, it is still better to save the higher overalls for guys who will have more of an impact and are able to be used every game. I would never intentionally waste a silver, gold, or diamond pick on a starting pitcher that I may never use within a run based on the way their “randomization” works. Plus, in BR you can junkball with a garbage starter for a full inning without giving up too many if any runs. Just think of the events from the past with all common or bronze pitchers. Sure, there was more offense but I still did well enough pitching. I have a feeling most people will follow this same logic, which means you’ll be on even footing with your opponent anyway. I don't know about that man, I give up a bomb or an XBH on over 70% on the first at bat with my common pitcher. The problem is that you can hit the ball out even if you're late/early or with terrible placement due to the horrendous ratings. If you add that up with the fact that most guys will have their best hitters in the 1-4 spot, I think it would be a poor strategy to go with common/bronze pitchers to face all those guys in the first inning. I rather give up a few silvers and draft some good hitting bronzes for the lineup.
Maybe I’ve just been lucky. Admittedly I haven’t played as much BR this year as I have in the past, so it’s a smaller sample size for me. I’m mostly relying on my experience with trash starting pitchers from events when I was trying to bring down my overall.
In the BR and event games I’ve played where I have a terrible starter in, I’ve had a lot of guys swinging out of their shoes with that lead off guy because they expect the lead off homer. I’ve had a few games where I just leave them in for the full inning and they do fine. I can only remember getting burned a handful of times.
It will be interesting to see how strategies change long term. Even though I won’t be playing, I’ll keep tabs through the forum so I’m ready for 2021.
I’d also like to add that THIS is how people should disagree with one another on a forum. It results in a respectful conversation about strategy, so thank you for that. I feel like far too often things around here turn into a pissing contest which starts from a minor disagreement or difference in opinion.
Pardon my ignorance on this, but I need a clarification on the new rule...
I am assuming that a team can still pinch hit in the place of a pitcher even if the pitcher has only pitched to a single batter. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.
@LankyRyan said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: I played BR in the Beta and without saying too much, it was either absolute mayhem or 0-0 through four innings, depending on draft methodology with the 3 batter minimum. So you're saying that the 3 batter minimum was indeed enforced in BR?
Whoops, edited it
I did 2 runs, my second was a 12-1
Bronzes in the rotation, commons on the bench, silvers in the pen with maybe one gold
@raesONE said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: @LankyRyan said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: I played BR in the Beta and without saying too much, it was either absolute mayhem or 0-0 through four innings, depending on draft methodology with the 3 batter minimum. So you're saying that the 3 batter minimum was indeed enforced in BR? Whoops, edited it
Gotcha, thank you.
@raesONE said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: @PennStateFencer said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?: I’m not buying MLB 20, but if I did I would still pick commons or bronzes for the rotation in BR. Even if they have the 3 batter minimum rule, it is still better to save the higher overalls for guys who will have more of an impact and are able to be used every game. I would never intentionally waste a silver, gold, or diamond pick on a starting pitcher that I may never use within a run based on the way their “randomization” works. Plus, in BR you can junkball with a garbage starter for a full inning without giving up too many if any runs. Just think of the events from the past with all common or bronze pitchers. Sure, there was more offense but I still did well enough pitching. I have a feeling most people will follow this same logic, which means you’ll be on even footing with your opponent anyway. I don't know about that man, I give up a bomb or an XBH on over 70% on the first at bat with my common pitcher. The problem is that you can hit the ball out even if you're late/early or with terrible placement due to the horrendous ratings. If you add that up with the fact that most guys will have their best hitters in the 1-4 spot, I think it would be a poor strategy to go with common/bronze pitchers to face all those guys in the first inning. I rather give up a few silvers and draft some good hitting bronzes for the lineup. Maybe I’ve just been lucky. Admittedly I haven’t played as much BR this year as I have in the past, so it’s a smaller sample size for me. I’m mostly relying on my experience with trash starting pitchers from events when I was trying to bring down my overall. In the BR and event games I’ve played where I have a terrible starter in, I’ve had a lot of guys swinging out of their shoes with that lead off guy because they expect the lead off homer. I’ve had a few games where I just leave them in for the full inning and they do fine. I can only remember getting burned a handful of times. It will be interesting to see how strategies change long term. Even though I won’t be playing, I’ll keep tabs through the forum so I’m ready for 2021. I’d also like to add that THIS is how people should disagree with one another on a forum. It results in a respectful conversation about strategy, so thank you for that. I feel like far too often things around here turn into a pissing contest which starts from a minor disagreement or difference in opinion.
I do think most events this year were played on HOF, opposed to All-Star in BR. In my experience BR is an absolute slugfest where the common pitchers hardly ever survive unless you play a dude that can't lay off pitches or get lucky that they flyout/lineout. I played well over a thousand BR games this year and I gave up a big hit with my common pitcher almost every first inning, especially if you play another good player.
And yes I agree that the forum seems cleaned up a lot compared to a few years ago. Glad to see that for sure.
So is it realistic to assume that it would be implemented for BR in '20? I 100% wish they wouldn't, but the different strategies would be very interesting. I think glitch bronzes and silvers in the rotation is the move. maybe a gold SP if there aren't solid hitter options would be playable, maybe even beneficial. All this assuming some of those bronze/silver glitches still remain viable hitters too. Lineup structure probably stays the same regardless.
Bingo
Call the 3 batter thing purely a hunch
@Some_Schmuck_22 said in What's the strategy for BR in '20?:
Pardon my ignorance on this, but I need a clarification on the new rule... I am assuming that a team can still pinch hit in the place of a pitcher even if the pitcher has only pitched to a single batter. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.
I believe the rule is 3 batters or until the end of an inning. So say the pitcher starting the inning got two outs and gave up a base hit, then a new pitcher gets the last out. He doesn’t have to stay in for the next inning.
I believe you are correct, at least that is how the commentators on this Cactus League game I’m watching explained it.