Why give games to newbies
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I'll say it again for the people on the back. The people who come on here and complain about RNG are average players who think they should be top players and find every excuse in the book to explain away the fact that the same guys are at the top every year. You aren't as good as you think you are, its hard for a lot of people to come to terms with but its true for most of us.
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@Kovz88 said in Why give games to newbies:
I'll say it again for the people on the back. The people who come on here and complain about RNG are average players who think they should be top players and find every excuse in the book to explain away the fact that the same guys are at the top every year. You aren't as good as you think you are, its hard for a lot of people to come to terms with but its true for most of us.
absolutely mate
OP has no sense of personal responsibility..... just wants to have an echo chamber of whiney boi's to hang with
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Agree with first sentence, completely disagree with second. In MLB, the worst team is still going to win 50 games a season.
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
I didn’t check (on phone) but it sounds like you may be new to the forum? If anything the volume of posts on this forum over the past couple of years claiming balancing outcomes have the opposite effect of the forum creating false illusion. Rest assured, many people here feel your pain.
I'm just confused by it. You see some ppl implying that it's lag. Same sort of suggestions I used to read on the FIFA and Madden boards when the game experience when sideways.
I guess, bottom line, I really like this game sometimes. Some games really do "appear" to be legit. Whether I win or lose. But, the last couple nights there wasn't one game of the 8 or so I played that had any semblance of reality.
I wanna believe it's just a hiccup like network lag. But, I've heard those same excuses so much on all these gaming forums that I can only believe it's just the way RNG sports games work. It's not at all lag.
Just frustrating. The very reason I quit playing Madden and FIFA is because the head-to-head online games were obviously dictated by code.
I was an all-conference 2B and hit .510 my senior year (.250 my Freshman year so the capacity is there to get better with practice). I know my eye/reflexes are fine. I'm pretty successful at online FPS's. So I like to think I'm pretty solid with a controller.
But, these online sports games pretending to be simulations...just don't play out that way.
Done ranting...all it gets me are a bunch of smart-asses, trolls, and fan-boys blaming it on my gameplay.
I agree in MLB the worst team will win 50 games. That's less than 1/3 of the games played (except this year) though. That's pretty terrible so, no offense, didn't get your point about that one.
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@TheHungryHole said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@TheHungryHole said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.
Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?
Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
Can you please re-write this into a 500 word essay - I will grade you once its submitted thanks mate
If you answer enuf folks with that stupid fruckin sarcasm (which is obviously your style)...you'll have accumulated enuf sentences to have created your own essay as$wipe.
you sound mad dude
and your post sucks hard
like..... real hard
Sure am frustrated. Probably not the most intelligent thing to do when someone is throwing a fit is to mock them. I mean, whatever ppl want to do, but you have to expect the frustrated person is going to
be pretty sensitive to smart-as$'s. -
Most games I lose Im either outclassed or not able to lock in, yeah it is true you get perfect/perfect line outs but as long as im making good contact, I know eventually I'll start scoring. Now on those bad days I know exactly what Im doing wrong (jamming my pic, reacting late to the pitch, not adjusting, etc) most importantly I don't care much about my record anymore, win or lose I try to play my own game and enjoy "Im the type of guy that would replay your HR"
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@youthful-match said in Why give games to newbies:
Most games I lose Im either outclassed or not able to lock in, yeah it is true you get perfect/perfect line outs but as long as im making good contact, I know eventually I'll start scoring. Now on those bad days I know exactly what Im doing wrong (jamming my pic, reacting late to the pitch, not adjusting, etc) most importantly I don't care much about my record anymore, win or lose I try to play my own game and enjoy "Im the type of guy that would replay your HR"
I don't disagree with any of that. But, that is nothing even similar to my gripe. But, again, you have a valid point...just doesn't cover this:
These RS matches...and they are all too often..where you have a lineup that is, on average, about 10 rating points per player across the board higher than your opponent. The opponent's pitcher is 80-rated Yu Darvish. You can't hit Yu Darvish with a team of 90+ rated batters.
80% of my swings were either good or perfect. When you're playing a much lower rated pitcher you would expect good swings to not only be rewarded, but be rewarded on a much larger scale than when squaring up on 90+ rated pitchers.
Your opponent, meanwhile, will literally swing at any pitch. In the dirt, above the head, in the stands. The opponent is a 23 Bronze. Obviously just not good. Maybe good someday, but not at all good last night.
You then lose the game because of animation that doesn't even attempt to be realistic...knowing...I mean knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt the script gave your win to your opponent because of some silly parity thing. Or whatever.
One experience like that is enuf for anyone to blow up.
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Agree with first sentence, completely disagree with second. In MLB, the worst team is still going to win 50 games a season.
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
I didn’t check (on phone) but it sounds like you may be new to the forum? If anything the volume of posts on this forum over the past couple of years claiming balancing outcomes have the opposite effect of the forum creating false illusion. Rest assured, many people here feel your pain.
Re read your post. You are comparing apples to oranges when you say the worst MLB team will win 50 games. The worst MLB team is still made up of MLB players..for the most part.
Someone new to MLB the Show with a team of mainly gold cards against someone that has played a whole lot with a team of diamonds should be a lot like the Dodgers playing a double-A team. Real Madrid playing Atlanta FC.
In high school we had a football team in our Conference that never won a game in my high school career they were so bad.
There was another team so good in baseball that we played 20 times over the years and we always lost. And we were a decent team that won the conference my senior year. So, yeah, there are teams so bad that they don't win...ever.
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@Kovz88 said in Why give games to newbies:
I'll say it again for the people on the back. The people who come on here and complain about RNG are average players who think they should be top players and find every excuse in the book to explain away the fact that the same guys are at the top every year. You aren't as good as you think you are, its hard for a lot of people to come to terms with but its true for most of us.
What?
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.
Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?
Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
You're nuts. "RNG" doesn't exist. Perhaps you should try holding down a lead... Let's hear your ugly rebuttal now.
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If you hit well enough you don’t have to worry about RNG. It only can screw you when it’s a close game and you aren’t hitting or pitching well. Now lag bw players can be frustrating tho. West coast and Canadians players have a tendency to have 115 mph fastballs sometimes hahaha, but then again they may have the 115 mph fastball from me if the connection is flipped. They need regional matchmaking in events and to a certain extent RS
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.
Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?
Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
I think this is the guy who got banned three times. Is this you Greg?
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@Kovz88 said in Why give games to newbies:
I'll say it again for the people on the back. The people who come on here and complain about RNG are average players who think they should be top players and find every excuse in the book to explain away the fact that the same guys are at the top every year. You aren't as good as you think you are, its hard for a lot of people to come to terms with but its true for most of us.
What?
Short and simple version, you aren't as good as you think you are. Most of us aren't, something you have to learn to live with.
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@TheHungryHole said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@TheHungryHole said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
Why does the RNG (or however you want to refer to the artificial code that splatters often misleading (fake) animation on your screen) feel obliged to give games away to new players..or just ppl that are terrible...have terrible lineups...at the expense of the rest of us? I use the word terrible, but you could say they blow, are unlearned, new, slow, whatever.
Do we deserve this stupid [censored]? We laid down our bucks for this game. We play these modes to win...not to lose. Play a lot, grind away to get better. Why code your game so those of us that really care (or used to)..lose to those that really don't? Why cheat us out of our money? And, that's the way I look at it. Swindling the customer with good intentions...with bad code that, I assume, is intentionally creating parity in the game.
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Why can't we talk about important subjects like this instead of how great some new challenge is that give you yet another card that really makes no difference in this game?
Is discussing the failures of the game, in hopes somebody out there in SDS land can reinvent it so the customer doesn't get stressed and write scathing posts like this, not a worthy point of discussion?
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
Can you please re-write this into a 500 word essay - I will grade you once its submitted thanks mate
If you answer enuf folks with that stupid fruckin sarcasm (which is obviously your style)...you'll have accumulated enuf sentences to have created your own essay as$wipe.
you sound mad dude
and your post sucks hard
like..... real hard
Sure am frustrated. Probably not the most intelligent thing to do when someone is throwing a fit is to mock them. I mean, whatever ppl want to do, but you have to expect the frustrated person is going to
be pretty sensitive to smart-as$'s.yeah or you could just learn some emotional intelligence and not act like such a baby
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Ha ha and one last ha.
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More RNG It's just getting ridiculous now.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-blue-jays/2020/08/20/630918
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@SaveFarris said in Why give games to newbies:
More RNG It's just getting ridiculous now.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-blue-jays/2020/08/20/630918
Wasn't able to find that link, but I agree here is another example.
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@SaveFarris said in Why give games to newbies:
More RNG It's just getting ridiculous now.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-blue-jays/2020/08/20/630918
Wasn't able to find that link, but I agree here is another example.
If you're trying to prove the point you're acting like a baby you've already done more than enough.
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@Kovz88 said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@SaveFarris said in Why give games to newbies:
More RNG It's just getting ridiculous now.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-blue-jays/2020/08/20/630918
Wasn't able to find that link, but I agree here is another example.
If you're trying to prove the point you're acting like a baby you've already done more than enough.
I was acting pretty big..'most like a grownup..until the other kids started pickn' on me.
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@Kovz88 said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@SaveFarris said in Why give games to newbies:
More RNG It's just getting ridiculous now.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-blue-jays/2020/08/20/630918
Wasn't able to find that link, but I agree here is another example.
If you're trying to prove the point you're acting like a baby you've already done more than enough.
I was acting pretty big..'most line a grownup..until the other kids started pickn' on me.
Pointing out facts you dont like does not equal picking on you
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why give games to newbies:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in Why give games to newbies:
@eelnirad_anglo said
When the RNG completely turns a game..putting any pitfalls it can in the path of a player/customer that deserves to win the game...it's the same as cheating the customer. The game is a mockery of MLB quite often.
Agree with first sentence, completely disagree with second. In MLB, the worst team is still going to win 50 games a season.
I can tell you why...this forum is all about creating a false illusion that the game is a competition...not the RNG controlled charade it is.
I didn’t check (on phone) but it sounds like you may be new to the forum? If anything the volume of posts on this forum over the past couple of years claiming balancing outcomes have the opposite effect of the forum creating false illusion. Rest assured, many people here feel your pain.
Re read your post. You are comparing apples to oranges when you say the worst MLB team will win 50 games. The worst MLB team is still made up of MLB players..for the most part.
The bit I disagreed with is that the game makes a mockery of the MLB. If the game is indeed balancing results it’s in fact mirroring the MLB by having the worst teams still winning a lot of games. It’s the 50/162 that prompt the RNG posts.
The online ranked modes should not attempt to mirror real-life season outcomes. Heck, I agree with you - the overall better user in an online match-up should eventually end up as the winner, unless they get lucky with some swings and guess some pitch locations with a reasonable timed swing.
Things that may prevent realistic outcomes happening:
- possible balancing logic or randomly determined hit or pitch outcomes (suspected by many)
- early quits (not enough time for a game or user’s record to balance out)
- 3-inning games (not enough time for a game to balance out)
- stacked teams (when there is no weak link, how do you force games to end?)
- influence of pitcher confidence variable (need to see the design documentation to determine what influence it has)
