Either of these cards would be end game shortstop.
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@Original_Quad said in Either of these cards would be end game shortstop.:
Stop the blasphemy that Ozzie isn’t a good hall of gamer. Defense has always been something that’s a lot harder to measure than offense, but by nearly every account he was the best defender of all time. WAR backs it up (76.9) and his JAWS score is in the top half for hall of fame shortstops.
He was an average to slightly above average hitter and the best defender to ever play the game. He’s a true hall of famer.
No argument here on the defensive point.
But if you start to try to address defensive prowess into Hall of Fame status, there are countless others like Ozzie and Maz that deserve enshrinement: Keith Hernandez, Buddy Bell, Mark Belanger, Andruw Jones, Vizquel. These were all defensive studs who lacked somewhat offensively (aside from Jones in his peak of course), but they have been overlooked as potential Hall of Famers while Ozzie and Maz have received the benefit of the doubt.
Side note I didn’t look up these players’ WAR and JAWS compared to Hall of Farmer’s like you did for Ozzie so I could potentially be proven wrong.
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@Original_Quad said in Either of these cards would be end game shortstop.:
Stop the blasphemy that Ozzie isn’t a good hall of gamer. Defense has always been something that’s a lot harder to measure than offense, but by nearly every account he was the best defender of all time. WAR backs it up (76.9) and his JAWS score is in the top half for hall of fame shortstops.
He was an average to slightly above average hitter and the best defender to ever play the game. He’s a true hall of famer.
Lol @ thinking a career sub-700 ops leader is anywhere near "slightly above average"
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@onnagood1 said in Either of these cards would be end game shortstop.:
@BalsamicArrow88 said in Either of these cards would be end game shortstop.:
Awards Frankie Lindor & 99 ovr Ozzie Smith...I’m assuming Ozzie will get a 99 ovr eventually. Question is, will it be an inning boss or ducks on the pond? Frankie I’m not so sure if we will see a awards card from him or not but I’m hoping we do.
I actually believe that you really think the word is Frankie.
But it's not. It's Frankly. I know that's what you meant, but I also know that it's not a typo because of the way you spelled it. Just trying to help you out. lol
Are you making joke? I’m confused because “Frankie“ Lindor is what his name is here in northeast Ohio. You know because his name is Francisco lol
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