Controverstial Cards we will never see
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@MikeForbes101 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
Mike Trout does not induce the fear in opposing teams the way Bonds did. Trout is the best player of this generation though, easily.
Before we got the juiced version of Bonds, he did not induce fear either. You were careful with him, but not fearful. Now Pujols put the fear of God in opposing pitchers ( St. Louis Albert, not Angels Albert).
Those Pirates teams were stacked so they could not pitch around him.
The PEDs changed everything. His body did not breakdown like most players in their thirties.
Combine that with HOF talent, he was a sure fire HOFer before the roids, and we have the Incredible Barry that we saw over the last 10 or so years of his career. -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
Mike Trout is a super stud! But his numbers arent even close to Barry so let’s hang back for a bit.
Are they not?
Let's compare the first 10 seasons of Bonds vs Trout.
Keep in mind Bonds had 10 full yrs vs Trout only having 8 plus seasons.
Trout's 1st year was a 40 game late call up and I am counting the numbers from this season (his 10th).
Trout had 3 MVPs (maybe a 4th this year?) 3 top 2 MVP finishes, 7 Silver Sluggers and was Rookie of the YearBonds had 3 MVPs, 1 top 2 MVP Finish, 5 Silver Sluggers and 5 Gold Gloves
Bonds Trout
G 1425 1214
AB 5020 4401
R 999 916
H 1436 1344
2B 306 252
3B 48 46
HR 292 293
RBI 864 768
SB 340 200
CS 103 36
BB 931 808
SO 795 1136
BA 0.286 0.305
OBP 0.398 0.418
SLG 0.541 0.583
OPS 0.827 1.002
WAR 73.4 73.2Still want to tell me Bonds is WAY better than Trout?
Trout hit for a higher avg, hit for more power, got on base more. Stole less bases, but got caught stealing a lot less.
Bonds has the advantage in Gold Gloves, but Bonds played LF and Trout is in a premium defensive position CF.Let's see where Trout goes from here, but through 10 yrs Trout is better than Bonds.
Yes, I know Bonds exploded in the 2nd half of his career, but we all know he was on PEDs. So when both players are clean, Trout has the edge.
And this is from a guy that before the last year or two considered Bonds the best player I have ever seen. Mike Trout is not only in the discussion, he is asking for a seat at the table.You know what, you’re correct when you talk about first 10 years. When I say not even close, I’m referring to the numbers Bonds put up between ‘98-‘04. No one will ever equal Barry’s numbers. But first 10 years, yes you’re correct. Good post!
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How about a card for the "Big Cat" Andres Galaraga? Dude fought cancer twice and won comeback player of the year for it. He was a 5x all star, 3x Gold Glove, 2x Sliver Slugger and won a batting title
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Billy Ripken's "F--- Face" Topps card. If they blurred out the "F--- Face" sharpie text that was written on the knob of his bat, it could be appropriate.
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How about a card based on a controversial moment—Armando Galarraga. Earn the card by pitching a perfect game.
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You know what, you’re correct when you talk about first 10 years. When I say not even close, I’m referring to the numbers Bonds put up between ‘98-‘04. No one will ever equal Barry’s numbers. But first 10 years, yes you’re correct. Good post!
Props brother. Good to see we can have a conversation without insults, it gives me hope.
You are correct about Bonds 98-04. Those were video game numbers.
Only a handful of guys have had similar runs - Ruth, Gehrig and Foxx. -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@Markis6224 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@ItsaCanesthing said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
if rocker were ever to see the light of day in this game it would only show sds is racist and homophobic, rocker is a douche.
Yeah Rocker is a douche, that isn't up for debate.
But having a player in the game is not an endorsement of their beliefs.Agreed why is this so hard for people to understand. How many wife beaters or other degenerates have cards. They are in there because they played baseball not because they have good character to model.
Exactly, last year we had Enos Slaughter in the game and that dude was garbage.
Rocker was a hateful person and that manifested itself in the infamous SI interview. But he only verbalized his hate, Slaughter on the other hand acted upon his hate. And to me that is much worse.I enjoyed the concept /idea of this thread and the input from those that can actually read and comprehend. Reading comprehension unfortunately has not been used by everyone here.
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@ustoopid2 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
How about a card for the "Big Cat" Andres Galaraga? Dude fought cancer twice and won comeback player of the year for it. He was a 5x all star, 3x Gold Glove, 2x Sliver Slugger and won a batting title
Was there something controversial about him? I'm honestly asking this time.
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@NCStateHokie said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@ustoopid2 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
How about a card for the "Big Cat" Andres Galaraga? Dude fought cancer twice and won comeback player of the year for it. He was a 5x all star, 3x Gold Glove, 2x Sliver Slugger and won a batting title
Was there something controversial about him? I'm honestly asking this time.
Nothing that I remember. There were whispers of PEDs as his HR totals exploded in the McGwire-Sosa era.
Other than that nothing...Heck of a player -
@ItsaCanesthing said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@NCStateHokie said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@ustoopid2 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
How about a card for the "Big Cat" Andres Galaraga? Dude fought cancer twice and won comeback player of the year for it. He was a 5x all star, 3x Gold Glove, 2x Sliver Slugger and won a batting title
Was there something controversial about him? I'm honestly asking this time.
Nothing that I remember. There were whispers of PEDs as his HR totals exploded in the McGwire-Sosa era.
Other than that nothing...Heck of a playerI would love to see him and Castilla added to the Rockies to complete the big 4 they had, imagine a lineup in DD of Walker, Gallaraga, Castilla and Bichette.
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Pete rose, shoeless joe Jackson,
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@BaseballWithBat5 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
Billy Ripken's "F--- Face" Topps card. If they blurred out the "F--- Face" sharpie text that was written on the knob of his bat, it could be appropriate.
Topps didn't make that card, Fleer did. So SDS would have to get the rights to use it from Upper Deck (they bought Fleer years ago), and get clearance from Topps and MLB.
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Pete Rose
"Shoeless" Joe Jackson
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Rusty Kuntz (CHW)
Pete LaCock (CHC)
P#ssy Tebeau (CLE)
D!ck Pole (BOS)
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@Serafim42-zaphod said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
Rusty Kuntz (CHW)
Pete LaCock (CHC)
P#ssy Tebeau (CLE)
D!ck Pole (BOS)
D!ck Cox (BRO)2 can play at this game lol
Johnny D!ckshot
Pickles DilhoefferSome of these names lol
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Just had another idea... A ritual!! How about a diamond level ritual called "Bang! Bang!" The item in question would be a trashcan, and it would increase your contact and power by 7 or so.
I'm stumped with coming up with a description, though
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@JediEl1823 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
@BaseballWithBat5 said in Controverstial Cards we will never see:
Billy Ripken's "F--- Face" Topps card. If they blurred out the "F--- Face" sharpie text that was written on the knob of his bat, it could be appropriate.
Topps didn't make that card, Fleer did. So SDS would have to get the rights to use it from Upper Deck (they bought Fleer years ago), and get clearance from Topps and MLB.
I didn't realize that. I have one. I should've just looked at it.
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