Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?
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No more Madden for me. I quit after what really amounted to was just roster updates for $60. I play MLB solid until mid February then I play COD, but am looking forward to the new 2K golf game.
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Online play for both MLB and Madden are both trash. All about the meta. I prefer the menus of Madden to the menus of MLB. I did break a million stubs ( no flex as I am sure people have way more stubs) on MLB for the first time.
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
When you can win a BIG tournament by running 0 pass plays ( he drafted a punter for his QB spot ), you know the game sucks.
Can not even compare the two. EA is a big money grab , the biggest. Sure they give you coins, but everyone gets them. This in turn inflates market. Does not matter how many coins they give you, if the market just raises the price.
Show+nms can thrive. Madden + good luck nms, you will need it.
The guy that won that tournament was amazing. As I told the guy that mentioned it earlier. That player did the best job running the ball on the professional circuit that I’ve ever seen. 99.99999% of people could not win a game in that tournament doing that. In 20 years people will still be talking about that as an amazing feat. That’s not the game, That was just an amazing player.
As far as what you’re saying about no money spent. All I can say is my personal experience....I spent $100 on Madden this year because I wanted Troy Polamalu the day he dropped. The rest of the year I didn’t spend anything and just used my coins won from weekend league & solo battles and have a 98 overall team whereas I dropped $1200 on the show to get Mantle day one. But it’s definitely possible to have a 99 no money spent team in either game.
What are you talking about? Running was the whole game and in every tournament. Plays were at least 75% time running. That guy who won just took it to a new level. The fact he was able to do it, shows you how whack the game play was.
You based your whole argument on the actual acquiring cards. I have played madden last 2 years. As my video shows, stubs are way easy to make here. To get ahead in Madden with nms, you need farm accounts.
Everyone is going to feel the way they feel. We are just saying your feelings are not based on facts( which you tried to present as facts ). Kinda like Trump saying covid is under control and will just disappear . Pipe dreams are not facts.
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@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
When you can win a BIG tournament by running 0 pass plays ( he drafted a punter for his QB spot ), you know the game sucks.
Can not even compare the two. EA is a big money grab , the biggest. Sure they give you coins, but everyone gets them. This in turn inflates market. Does not matter how many coins they give you, if the market just raises the price.
Show+nms can thrive. Madden + good luck nms, you will need it.
The guy that won that tournament was amazing. As I told the guy that mentioned it earlier. That player did the best job running the ball on the professional circuit that I’ve ever seen. 99.99999% of people could not win a game in that tournament doing that. In 20 years people will still be talking about that as an amazing feat. That’s not the game, That was just an amazing player.
As far as what you’re saying about no money spent. All I can say is my personal experience....I spent $100 on Madden this year because I wanted Troy Polamalu the day he dropped. The rest of the year I didn’t spend anything and just used my coins won from weekend league & solo battles and have a 98 overall team whereas I dropped $1200 on the show to get Mantle day one. But it’s definitely possible to have a 99 no money spent team in either game.
What are you talking about? Running was the whole game and in every tournament. Plays were at least 75% time running. That guy who just took it to a new level. The fact he was able to do it, shows you how whack the game play was.
You based your whole argument on the actual acquiring cards. I have played madden last 2 years. As my video shows, stubs are way easy to make here. To get ahead in Madden with nms, you need farm accounts.
Everyone is going to feel the way they feel. We are just saying your feelings on not based on facts( which you tried to present as facts ). Kinda like Trump saying covid is under control and will just disappear . Pipe dreams are not facts.
I am am nms in madden. You can get a million MUT coins just by doing the 500 get a player pack.
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@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
When you can win a BIG tournament by running 0 pass plays ( he drafted a punter for his QB spot ), you know the game sucks.
Can not even compare the two. EA is a big money grab , the biggest. Sure they give you coins, but everyone gets them. This in turn inflates market. Does not matter how many coins they give you, if the market just raises the price.
Show+nms can thrive. Madden + good luck nms, you will need it.
The guy that won that tournament was amazing. As I told the guy that mentioned it earlier. That player did the best job running the ball on the professional circuit that I’ve ever seen. 99.99999% of people could not win a game in that tournament doing that. In 20 years people will still be talking about that as an amazing feat. That’s not the game, That was just an amazing player.
As far as what you’re saying about no money spent. All I can say is my personal experience....I spent $100 on Madden this year because I wanted Troy Polamalu the day he dropped. The rest of the year I didn’t spend anything and just used my coins won from weekend league & solo battles and have a 98 overall team whereas I dropped $1200 on the show to get Mantle day one. But it’s definitely possible to have a 99 no money spent team in either game.
What are you talking about? Running was the whole game and in every tournament. Plays were at least 75% time running. That guy who just took it to a new level. The fact he was able to do it, shows you how whack the game play was.
You based your whole argument on the actual acquiring cards. I have played madden last 2 years. As my video shows, stubs are way easy to make here. To get ahead in Madden with nms, you need farm accounts.
Everyone is going to feel the way they feel. We are just saying your feelings on not based on facts( which you tried to present as facts ). K
inda like Trump saying covid is under control and will just disappear . Pipe dreams are not facts.Madden had so many things that were exploited and frustrating for me when I wanted to play the game the way game I wanted to, hopefully this year it’s good enough for me to play wl. It’s really easy to make coins/stubs playing the game normally for both but I’d say easier for madden
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@dirtybob007 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@CalisGW said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
When you can win a BIG tournament by running 0 pass plays ( he drafted a punter for his QB spot ), you know the game sucks.
Can not even compare the two. EA is a big money grab , the biggest. Sure they give you coins, but everyone gets them. This in turn inflates market. Does not matter how many coins they give you, if the market just raises the price.
Show+nms can thrive. Madden + good luck nms, you will need it.
The guy that won that tournament was amazing. As I told the guy that mentioned it earlier. That player did the best job running the ball on the professional circuit that I’ve ever seen. 99.99999% of people could not win a game in that tournament doing that. In 20 years people will still be talking about that as an amazing feat. That’s not the game, That was just an amazing player.
As far as what you’re saying about no money spent. All I can say is my personal experience....I spent $100 on Madden this year because I wanted Troy Polamalu the day he dropped. The rest of the year I didn’t spend anything and just used my coins won from weekend league & solo battles and have a 98 overall team whereas I dropped $1200 on the show to get Mantle day one. But it’s definitely possible to have a 99 no money spent team in either game.
What are you talking about? Running was the whole game and in every tournament. Plays were at least 75% time running. That guy who just took it to a new level. The fact he was able to do it, shows you how whack the game play was.
You based your whole argument on the actual acquiring cards. I have played madden last 2 years. As my video shows, stubs are way easy to make here. To get ahead in Madden with nms, you need farm accounts.
Everyone is going to feel the way they feel. We are just saying your feelings on not based on facts( which you tried to present as facts ). Kinda like Trump saying covid is under control and will just disappear . Pipe dreams are not facts.
I am am nms in madden. You can get a million MUT coins just by doing the 500 get a player pack.
2 years ago yes, doing the playbooks. last year was more time consuming. Both can be nms. Show is just plain and simple nicer to nms.
I took a break for 5 months from madden with 2 mil coins in my bank. Was able to buy up everything to make a 98 squad in April. Cards i had were useless. In Madden, the cards get outdated quick. Cards do not retain much value. Way different than the Show. Both have their pros and cons. Without a doubt, Show is the better game for nms, and if you think otherwise? then you not doing it right.
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What's Madden? Sounds like a fortnite skin.
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
All right let's break it down!
SDS made it extremely easy to earn stubs in DD. I haven't worked the market much this year in comparison to previous years and not only do I have Mantle, but I'm very close to Trout as well. Those 3 free 99s from the last few programs? Yeah man they'll gift you 100k in stubs.
CAPS needed a change and what they currently have is imo just fine. Far superior to feeding him people. Also did you forget they had some "rookie to prime" player programs? Carlos Gonzales, Jackie Robinson, Pudge, ect...
You also can't customize your uniforms. Simultaneously you have Inside Edge that works as that same role, while yes it only affects LS cards, its there. Not to mention you can do this with several players with Prestige. This is also a counter point to what you said regarding "power ups".
Okay this is where I laughed the hardest. Let's make some comparisons!
MLB sees you fielding 9 players, and controlling at most 4 simultaneously. The player you control is based on where the ball travels.
When fielding, 4 players are involved in a single routine and that's only with a relay. Interactions with each player are exchanged when the ball is in the air, so between throws control changes. You throw from LF to SS. You control the LF, SS AI sets the alignment, you gain control halfway through the throw and can start your next throw if needed.
You are never out of control aside from AI positioning. Baserunning has more AI control but thats just so it makes baserunning a tad easier and less complex. You still have majority control, even of individual runners.
Madden sees 11 players per team, 22 Players engaged on every single play. Your result on almost every single play is almost entirely composed of RNG. Why is this? Because you only control 1 player.
Your O-Line is 100% AI driven, and every play is dependent on whether or not they hold up their blocks, open gaps, or protect your QB.
You snap the ball, hope for good RNG from your O-line. Here comes the biggest user-input from your QB. Where are you going to throw the ball? This is dependent on your opponents defensive AI RNG. At this point before you even throw the ball at least 20 interactions have occured that are all 100% AI and RNG driven. You can control their movements pre-snap, but after that ball is snapped, you only control 1 player.
So throw the ball to Hopkins, but he has Darius Slay covering him. You control Hopkins, he controls Slay. Coverage ends up tight because your QBs RNG forces a throw off target, and now you have to go for an aggressive catch. Roll the dice cause your opponent is doing the same.
This happens on every play. Madden is 90% AI driven. A guy literally won a tournament with a punter as QB because he did nothing but exploit AI and ran the ball. Madden is a game of animations and RNG and you have 0 control over either of these two things.
If I'm wrong, please state where, how and what really happens.
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Yes and no. I'll keep playing MLB 20 after Madden drops. Then I'll quit playing it. Probably sometime next year... which is after Madden drops.
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@Trevor-Story said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
All right let's break it down!
SDS made it extremely easy to earn stubs in DD. I haven't worked the market much this year in comparison to previous years and not only do I have Mantle, but I'm very close to Trout as well. Those 3 free 99s from the last few programs? Yeah man they'll gift you 100k in stubs.
CAPS needed a change and what they currently have is imo just fine. Far superior to feeding him people. Also did you forget they had some "rookie to prime" player programs? Carlos Gonzales, Jackie Robinson, Pudge, ect...
You also can't customize your uniforms. Simultaneously you have Inside Edge that works as that same role, while yes it only affects LS cards, its there. Not to mention you can do this with several players with Prestige. This is also a counter point to what you said regarding "power ups".
Okay this is where I laughed the hardest. Let's make some comparisons!
MLB sees you fielding 9 players, and controlling at most 4 simultaneously. The player you control is based on where the ball travels.
When fielding, 4 players are involved in a single routine and that's only with a relay. Interactions with each player are exchanged when the ball is in the air, so between throws control changes. You throw from LF to SS. You control the LF, SS AI sets the alignment, you gain control halfway through the throw and can start your next throw if needed.
You are never out of control aside from AI positioning. Baserunning has more AI control but thats just so it makes baserunning a tad easier and less complex. You still have majority control, even of individual runners.
Madden sees 11 players per team, 22 Players engaged on every single play. Your result on almost every single play is almost entirely composed of RNG. Why is this? Because you only control 1 player.
Your O-Line is 100% AI driven, and every play is dependent on whether or not they hold up their blocks, open gaps, or protect your QB.
You snap the ball, hope for good RNG from your O-line. Here comes the biggest user-input from your QB. Where are you going to throw the ball? This is dependent on your opponents defensive AI RNG. At this point before you even throw the ball at least 20 interactions have occured that are all 100% AI and RNG driven. You can control their movements pre-snap, but after that ball is snapped, you only control 1 player.
So throw the ball to Hopkins, but he has Darius Slay covering him. You control Hopkins, he controls Slay. Coverage ends up tight because your QBs RNG forces a throw off target, and now you have to go for an aggressive catch. Roll the dice cause your opponent is doing the same.
This happens on every play. Madden is 90% AI driven. A guy literally won a tournament with a punter as QB because he did nothing but exploit AI and ran the ball. Madden is a game of animations and RNG and you have 0 control over either of these two things.
If I'm wrong, please state where, how and what really happens.
Sorry you spent your evening typing all that but for me it’s real simple...In the show the ball off the bat doesn’t react the way it should based off the feedback nearly enough whereas in Madden the play unfolds as myself & the opponent’s user input dictates.....Yes, The oline vs the pass rush is RNG but that’s ok because sometimes the pass rusher gets an insta shed & other times the tackle picks him up. I’m fine with that, It’s realistic. Just my opinion but I’ve never blamed RNG for costing me a game in Madden whereas I do it all the time in The Show.
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I’m done with Madden (MUT) and it feels pretty good.
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
Sounds like you are not playing DD correctly, because like others have said, this almost sounds like a troll.
If you are mentioning ‘power ups’ you are missing the point of Diamond Dynasty being about playing with baseball cards.
PS. I used to buy Madden and The show Every year. 18 was my last madden, and I could only play it for about a month because it was so terrible.
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My name maybe NFLman, and i love football way more than baseball, but MLBTS >>>>>>> Madden.
Now if they would drop an NCAA game, I would be tempted. But i will play DD until they stop putting out new content, then i will play franchise
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I’ll drop this game when fifa releases, I like the show and all but I’ve grown up playing fifa and even though the gameplay is dog, it’s content is great and the new icons have me excited
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Thinking about spending $1200 on this game and getting skinned alive by my wife
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
Dude I laughed my [censored] off at this. Been a long time MUT player and first time DD player. Madden sux bro. The whole upgrade process is beyond expensive and an 85 CB still catches up to a 99 receiver. Don’t get me started with online. Have you played weekend league. All they do is run 2 plays all game no skill what so ever. DD is all skill. If you can’t hit ain’t no magic stretch play will make you better. Enjoy the cheese I’m staying here
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MUT 20 sucked this year. They basically only did content for 8 months. I have really enjoyed my first year of the Show. If I play MUT this year I'm not spending a dime on it
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I'll play MLB daily until 2k and FIFA come out. I'll still play MLB after that, it will just be a lot less. Hop on and and play a couple RS games here, stash some stubs for a couple finest packs and maybe do a player program or two depending on who is released.
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@lazy_toast said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
@foge011 said in Will you keep playing The Show after Madden drops?:
I don't play Madden. I'm wondering how you can compare the two and say one is a better game? It's an entirely different sport.
It’s not sport vs sport, It’s the structure of MUT vs the structure of DD....MUT is way better in so many ways. Just a few examples...
You can earn tons of coins every week just playing the weekly modes - Solo battles & Weekend League...The Show doesn’t offer anything like that. In the show unless you’re a great player that can go 12-0 or make WS or spend tons of time working the market you’re not gonna make a lot of coins easily.
In MUT most good players have a power up card that starts as around a 70 overall that you can spend training on to build them up to a high 90’s card. In DD you are completely at the mercy of what SDS drops to you.
In MUT you can increase your team’s attributes by adding different types of chemistry to the team, stadiums, uniforms & coaches.
And the gameplay...You don’t have the RNG that you have in the show. The only RNG is when non user controlled players like a offensive tackle & a pass rusher are fighting.
Dude I laughed my [censored] off at this. Been a long time MUT player and first time DD player. Madden sux bro. The whole upgrade process is beyond expensive and an 85 CB still catches up to a 99 receiver. Don’t get me started with online. Have you played weekend league. All they do is run 2 plays all game no skill what so ever. DD is all skill. If you can’t hit ain’t no magic stretch play will make you better. Enjoy the cheese I’m staying here
No offense man but if you can’t stop someone running stretch run over & over then you’re obviously not a very good online player. That works on subpar players but good players will shut that down quickly. That’s ok though - MUT isn’t for everyone. Enjoy DD.
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Well, I'm not a football fan, not do I have any understanding of it, so I will be sticking with The Show.
