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    I don't have a problem with what Kelly did, but generally I think there needs to be more self-policing in baseball, similar to hockey. 99% of the time (Kelly is the exception) I have a problem with a pitcher throwing 90mph+ at a guy 60 feet away from him while the batter has no recourse. I think that if you throw at a batter, then (and only then) the batter should be able to charge the mound unobstructed. This will significantly cut down on intentional hit batsmen as pitchers will no longer be a protected class.

    Obligatory Nolan Ryan/Robin Ventura knuckle sandwich.

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    @SchnauzerFace said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    That is a huge suspension for a shortened season (about 20 games in a normal season!), but I was just watching the Rockies/A’s game and one of the announcers made a good point. It lead to a benches clearing situation where 60 guys were all up in each others’ business, and that’s exactly the kind of situation MLB is trying to avoid.

    MLB should have done something about the Astros players for cheating if they wanted to avoid this situation

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    @Dclnnn said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    Simple, Kelly has a history of being a headhunter and throw in all his antics in that inning trying to stir up trouble, well you got what you deserved. Also love how is so tough talking [censored] as he walks into the dugout, that little skinny man, really?

    Rather be a skinny man than known as a player that cheated to be a part of a World Series winning team

    You would, lol..

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    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

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    @SchnauzerFace said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    That is a huge suspension for a shortened season (about 20 games in a normal season!), but I was just watching the Rockies/A’s game and one of the announcers made a good point. It lead to a benches clearing situation where 60 guys were all up in each others’ business, and that’s exactly the kind of situation MLB is trying to avoid.

    Then suspended Correa for starting the bench clearing and brought everyone together

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    @mjfc_363 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    I have more respect for EVERYONE that juiced than I do the cheating scumbag Astros!!

    HEAR HEAR

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  • Scratch1977_PSNS Offline
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    Pfft. So much whining, hate, and [censored]-hurtedness... But I guess it's to be expected.

    Schmoe Kelly got what he deserved - should've gotten more! 😄

    Like Dusty said: "We don't start nothin', but we don't take nothin' either." Dang straight! Go Stros.

    #ForTheH

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    @themadhatter711 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    I don't have a problem with what Kelly did, but generally I think there needs to be more self-policing in baseball, similar to hockey. 99% of the time (Kelly is the exception) I have a problem with a pitcher throwing 90mph+ at a guy 60 feet away from him while the batter has no recourse. I think that if you throw at a batter, then (and only then) the batter should be able to charge the mound unobstructed. This will significantly cut down on intentional hit batsmen as pitchers will no longer be a protected class.

    Obligatory Nolan Ryan/Robin Ventura knuckle sandwich.

    Agree 100%

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    Yup, this is what i knew would happen with that proclamation before the season, no way can intent be determined, so basically because the Astros cheated, the consequence is special treatment, you can hit any player in the league as long as they aren't the Astros. How nice it will be for them to not have to worry about inside pitches. If i was on that team, id be crowding the plate every AB, virtually standing on top of it.

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    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

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    Up 3 with 2 men on. The logic doesn't hold up. Also, if you're that accurate and want to hit a guy, you hit them.

    Let's talk about it: https://imgur.com/a/b32YVsY

    Further reading: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/gamefeed?game_pk=631443&game_date=2020-07-28&type=away_pitchers&chart_view=pitch&chart_type=call_name&inning=&count=&batter_hand=&pitcher_hand=&filter=&player=home-pitchers_660600&view=Umpire&coloring=Pitch Type

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    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

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    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

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  • ChuckCLC_PSNC Offline
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    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Yeah but the ring leaders are gone. The Astros left were just young players following the lead of Beltran who came over from another team way up North and said "you guys are way behind the times on sign stealing." Thus he masterminded along with Cora a way to get back on level. You can say get ahead, but I think most people know the truth.

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    @TEXAS10PT said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    Are you serious? You have obviously never played a high level of baseball. It was absolutely intentional. The count was 3-0 and Kelly just said F it I’m making a point. He is a profession pitcher and regardless of if he was “off” that wild of a pitch on a 3-0 count was intentional.

    Kelly was out of line big time. I pitched up until senior year in high school and if I couldn’t find the zone I’d ask to be pulled. He did that [censored] on purpose and could of seriously injured someone. Sure the Astros cheated, we all know that but injuring someone isn’t the answer. His [censored] should get fined and suspended

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    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Yeah but the ring leaders are gone. The Astros left were just young players following the lead of Beltran who came over from another team way up North and said "you guys are way behind the times on sign stealing." Thus he masterminded along with Cora a way to get back on level. You can say get ahead, but I think most people know the truth.

    It does suck but those two at least got suspended and probably will not be back in baseball any time soon. It does suck it happened and the players have to deal with the mistake of those two and for not stopping it. I think it is more about the Commissioner giving players immunity at this point. The Players feel like the Astros player got away with it.

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    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Death Duel on Pay Per View!

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    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Yeah but the ring leaders are gone. The Astros left were just young players following the lead of Beltran who came over from another team way up North and said "you guys are way behind the times on sign stealing." Thus he masterminded along with Cora a way to get back on level. You can say get ahead, but I think most people know the truth.

    It does suck but those two at least got suspended and probably will not be back in baseball any time soon. It does suck it happened and the players have to deal with the mistake of those two and for not stopping it. I think it is more about the Commissioner giving player immunity to the players at this point. The Players feel like the Astros player got away with it.

    True, but that is absolutely the only way anything could have gotten proved. Is if the players talked. I think that alone was a step in admitting they knew they had done wrong. Truth is there is nothing they could have said or done to make everyone happy. You wont see Beltran showing any remorse I guarantee that.

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    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Yeah but the ring leaders are gone. The Astros left were just young players following the lead of Beltran who came over from another team way up North and said "you guys are way behind the times on sign stealing." Thus he masterminded along with Cora a way to get back on level. You can say get ahead, but I think most people know the truth.

    It does suck but those two at least got suspended and probably will not be back in baseball any time soon. It does suck it happened and the players have to deal with the mistake of those two and for not stopping it. I think it is more about the Commissioner giving player immunity to the players at this point. The Players feel like the Astros player got away with it.

    True, but that is absolutely the only way anything could have gotten proved. Is if the players talked. I think that alone was a step in admitting they knew they had done wrong. Truth is there is nothing they could have said or done to make everyone happy. You wont see Beltran showing any remorse I guarantee that.

    The story was already out but MLB wanted details of who of who did what, to give players immunity commissioner did not think how this was going to affect those players going forward and he can not protect them on the field. It just a tough situation, I do think if the Commissioner would have voided there championship it would not be as bad as it is now. that is what I think.

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    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @ChuckCLC said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @dbarmonstar said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @byrdman-10 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    @jreyes533 said in Joe Kelly Suspension:

    The really odd thing is, if you were watching the game, he was really having a hard time finding the zone. He wasn't even close. As a Dodger fan watching a close game against the hated Astros, it was making my stomach turn.

    It did not seem intentional by any stretch. It felt more like a tragic case of the Yips.

    If you thought that one "got away", you must be smoking crack..

    I do smoke crack but not while watching baseball.

    My point is that they ALL "got away" from him that night but you'd known that were you watching his entire outing rather than just commenting after learning about the suspension, then watching the highlights. (Funny enough, this is how self-serving logic works.)

    Crack has damaged your brain. Die hard fan so I watched every inning, listen to the experts, doing it on 3-0 even more dangerous than sending a message on the first pitch. Plus get your facts straight, Correa struck out and did not say a word until Kelly said nice swing b..h. Said this while the little coward is hurrying back to the dugout.

    That is some bad blood, they should just let the two teams fight it out on the field and settle it.

    Yeah but the ring leaders are gone. The Astros left were just young players following the lead of Beltran who came over from another team way up North and said "you guys are way behind the times on sign stealing." Thus he masterminded along with Cora a way to get back on level. You can say get ahead, but I think most people know the truth.

    It does suck but those two at least got suspended and probably will not be back in baseball any time soon. It does suck it happened and the players have to deal with the mistake of those two and for not stopping it. I think it is more about the Commissioner giving player immunity to the players at this point. The Players feel like the Astros player got away with it.

    True, but that is absolutely the only way anything could have gotten proved. Is if the players talked. I think that alone was a step in admitting they knew they had done wrong. Truth is there is nothing they could have said or done to make everyone happy. You wont see Beltran showing any remorse I guarantee that.

    It has been good talking about this with you with respect. Dodger need to win it all this year and put 2017 past them.

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