Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton

[Nanthrax_1_PSN]

Just wanted to point out how this makes absolutely no sense... Both are prime so they're perfect to compare..

McGee is a 95...
He's a career 119 ERA+
His prime was basically 198 ERA+ seasons sandwiching a bad season between 2012-2014.
He was never really closing games. More a setup man..

Britton is a 93...

He's a career 137 ERA+
His prime was legendary.. he had one of the greatest reliever seasons ever in 2016 with an 803 ERA+, basically unhittable, and that was after 2 seasons that are much better than McGee ever did. Plus he closed games as an added bonus..

This is totally backwards

[Nanthrax_1_PSN]

Britton allowed 4 runs in 69 appearances in 2016..

And Showalter brought in Ubaldo in the WC game instead!!! Lol

[raesONE_PSN]

Yup. If only this was the only backwards thing in the game

[wynsanity318_PSN]

really no need to complain over another lefty reliever especially since it wasn't a brave...in all seriousness ratings will forever be a joke just be happy at least Jake McGee is a real major leaguer this time

[wingspan1985_PSN]

Where the hell is my Prime Venters?

[T-Rox_09_PSN]

Where are you guys seeing these cards? I don't see anything on Twitter

[DriveByTrucker17]

SDS are incompetent at many things, coming up with ratings for cards is one of those things.

[Nanthrax_1_PSN]

@T-Rox_09 said in Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton:

Where are you guys seeing these cards? I don't see anything on Twitter

It's already in game

[the_dragon1912_PSN]

Do you guys even know what drives ratings? I don’t know how and what years they choose for prime cards but H/9, K/9, HR/9, and BB/9 drive a pitchers ratings. Here’s what I came up with:

McGee
H-6.4
HR-.65
BB- 2.3
K-11.42
2012-2015

Britton
H-6.7
HR-.47
BB-2.82
K-8.75
2014-2017

In-game attributes
JM-109 H/9 ZB- 110 H/9
JM-93 HR/9 ZB-98 K/9
JM- 89 BB/9 89 CTRL ZB 84 BB/9 CTRL 89
JM-115 K/9 ZB-99 K/9

As you can see, Zack Britton and Jake McGee are both very similar in H/9, BB/9, and HR/9, both in what I chose as their “primes” and in game. McGee struck out more batters. Plain and simple, that is why he is rated higher, because his K/9 is 16 points higher in game because he had 3 points higher K/9 in real life.

I am not saying that McGee was better than Britton, because he wasn’t. Ratings are juiced for hitters and future stars, yeah whatever. Pitchers ratings are pretty much only based on real life per nines. Not FIP, not ERA+, no advanced metrics. Pitchers ratings are pretty much spot on accurate. Its why Glavine is a 95 also

[eatyum_PSN]

@the_dragon1912 said in Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton:

Do you guys even know what drives ratings? I don’t know how and what years they choose for prime cards but H/9, K/9, HR/9, and BB/9 drive a pitchers ratings. Here’s what I came up with:

McGee
H-6.4
HR-.65
BB- 2.3
K-11.42
2012-2015

Britton
H-6.7
HR-.47
BB-2.82
K-8.75
2014-2017

In-game attributes
JM-109 H/9 ZB- 110 H/9
JM-93 HR/9 ZB-98 K/9
JM- 89 BB/9 89 CTRL ZB 84 BB/9 CTRL 89
JM-115 K/9 ZB-99 K/9

As you can see, Zack Britton and Jake McGee are both very similar in H/9, BB/9, and HR/9, both in what I chose as their “primes” and in game. McGee struck out more batters. Plain and simple, that is why he is rated higher, because his K/9 is 16 points higher in game because he had 3 points higher K/9 in real life.

I am not saying that McGee was better than Britton, because he wasn’t. Ratings are juiced for hitters and future stars, yeah whatever. Pitchers ratings are pretty much only based on real life per nines. Not FIP, not ERA+, no advanced metrics. Pitchers ratings are pretty much spot on accurate. Its why Glavine is a 95 also

Exactly, people get to caught up in the overall instead of looking at what things affect the overall of a player in MLB The Show

[Nanthrax_1_PSN]

@the_dragon1912 said in Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton:

Do you guys even know what drives ratings? I don’t know how and what years they choose for prime cards but H/9, K/9, HR/9, and BB/9 drive a pitchers ratings. Here’s what I came up with:

McGee
H-6.4
HR-.65
BB- 2.3
K-11.42
2012-2015

Britton
H-6.7
HR-.47
BB-2.82
K-8.75
2014-2017

In-game attributes
JM-109 H/9 ZB- 110 H/9
JM-93 HR/9 ZB-98 K/9
JM- 89 BB/9 89 CTRL ZB 84 BB/9 CTRL 89
JM-115 K/9 ZB-99 K/9

As you can see, Zack Britton and Jake McGee are both very similar in H/9, BB/9, and HR/9, both in what I chose as their “primes” and in game. McGee struck out more batters. Plain and simple, that is why he is rated higher, because his K/9 is 16 points higher in game because he had 3 points higher K/9 in real life.

I am not saying that McGee was better than Britton, because he wasn’t. Ratings are juiced for hitters and future stars, yeah whatever. Pitchers ratings are pretty much only based on real life per nines. Not FIP, not ERA+, no advanced metrics. Pitchers ratings are pretty much spot on accurate. Its why Glavine is a 95 also

Well done on the report sir.

You get an A+

No really, well done breaking that down.

[DriveByTrucker17]

@the_dragon1912 said in Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton:

Do you guys even know what drives ratings? I don’t know how and what years they choose for prime cards but H/9, K/9, HR/9, and BB/9 drive a pitchers ratings. Here’s what I came up with:

McGee
H-6.4
HR-.65
BB- 2.3
K-11.42
2012-2015

Britton
H-6.7
HR-.47
BB-2.82
K-8.75
2014-2017

In-game attributes
JM-109 H/9 ZB- 110 H/9
JM-93 HR/9 ZB-98 K/9
JM- 89 BB/9 89 CTRL ZB 84 BB/9 CTRL 89
JM-115 K/9 ZB-99 K/9

As you can see, Zack Britton and Jake McGee are both very similar in H/9, BB/9, and HR/9, both in what I chose as their “primes” and in game. McGee struck out more batters. Plain and simple, that is why he is rated higher, because his K/9 is 16 points higher in game because he had 3 points higher K/9 in real life.

I am not saying that McGee was better than Britton, because he wasn’t. Ratings are juiced for hitters and future stars, yeah whatever. Pitchers ratings are pretty much only based on real life per nines. Not FIP, not ERA+, no advanced metrics. Pitchers ratings are pretty much spot on accurate. Its why Glavine is a 95 also

This is why SDS needs to get with the times, and use stats that actually matter and tell the whole story.

They’re too lazy to update their clearly broken formulas though.

[doomtrain69_PSN]

@the_dragon1912 said in Prime McGee vs. Prime Britton:

Do you guys even know what drives ratings? I don’t know how and what years they choose for prime cards but H/9, K/9, HR/9, and BB/9 drive a pitchers ratings. Here’s what I came up with:

McGee
H-6.4
HR-.65
BB- 2.3
K-11.42
2012-2015

Britton
H-6.7
HR-.47
BB-2.82
K-8.75
2014-2017

In-game attributes
JM-109 H/9 ZB- 110 H/9
JM-93 HR/9 ZB-98 K/9
JM- 89 BB/9 89 CTRL ZB 84 BB/9 CTRL 89
JM-115 K/9 ZB-99 K/9

As you can see, Zack Britton and Jake McGee are both very similar in H/9, BB/9, and HR/9, both in what I chose as their “primes” and in game. McGee struck out more batters. Plain and simple, that is why he is rated higher, because his K/9 is 16 points higher in game because he had 3 points higher K/9 in real life.

I am not saying that McGee was better than Britton, because he wasn’t. Ratings are juiced for hitters and future stars, yeah whatever. Pitchers ratings are pretty much only based on real life per nines. Not FIP, not ERA+, no advanced metrics. Pitchers ratings are pretty much spot on accurate. Its why Glavine is a 95 also

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