Game Update 1.12 Thread

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@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@Collin_SDS In order to head off the next hundred angry posts from customers, can we get confirmation whether gameplay (not visual) updates are done for the year? If the team is already 100% moved on to 21' it would be good to know. Otherwise there will be a lot of needless speculation and arguing here that benefits no one.

This is a great question. Too bad they never answer legitimate questions. They usually appear when people swear.

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@TeamPotro said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@Collin_SDS In order to head off the next hundred angry posts from customers, can we get confirmation whether gameplay (not visual) updates are done for the year? If the team is already 100% moved on to 21' it would be good to know. Otherwise there will be a lot of needless speculation and arguing here that benefits no one.

This is a great question. Too bad they never answer legitimate questions. They usually appear when people swear.

To be fair, managing user expectations is a minefield. People try to read things into what you say, and in the gaming context often standard business decisions that most companies would make are perceived as crimes against humanity. There's a lot more emotion involved than you have for an email client or something. Firestorms start over little things, and bigger issues can spin out of control and infect social media. No one wants to see their name quoted in a negative viral post about the game. No one wants to be associated with a decrease in stub sales because they said a little too much in a forum post that turned away users. Constraining dev updates to one way communication (like the dev stream) avoids some of this problem. If I was at SDS I would not look forward to facing this forum with news they don't want to hear.

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Don’t they only make gameplay adjustments every other patch??

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@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@TeamPotro said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@Collin_SDS In order to head off the next hundred angry posts from customers, can we get confirmation whether gameplay (not visual) updates are done for the year? If the team is already 100% moved on to 21' it would be good to know. Otherwise there will be a lot of needless speculation and arguing here that benefits no one.

This is a great question. Too bad they never answer legitimate questions. They usually appear when people swear.

To be fair, managing user expectations is a minefield. People try to read things into what you say, and in the gaming context often standard business decisions that most companies would make are perceived as crimes against humanity. There's a lot more emotion involved than you have for an email client or something. Firestorms start over little things, and bigger issues can spin out of control and infect social media. No one wants to see their name quoted in a negative viral post about the game. No one wants to be associated with a decrease in stub sales because they said a little too much in a forum post that turned away users. Constraining dev updates to one way communication (like the dev stream) avoids some of this problem. If I was at SDS I would not look forward to facing this forum with news they don't want to hear.

@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@TeamPotro said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@vox_pestis said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@Collin_SDS In order to head off the next hundred angry posts from customers, can we get confirmation whether gameplay (not visual) updates are done for the year? If the team is already 100% moved on to 21' it would be good to know. Otherwise there will be a lot of needless speculation and arguing here that benefits no one.

This is a great question. Too bad they never answer legitimate questions. They usually appear when people swear.

To be fair, managing user expectations is a minefield. People try to read things into what you say, and in the gaming context often standard business decisions that most companies would make are perceived as crimes against humanity. There's a lot more emotion involved than you have for an email client or something. Firestorms start over little things, and bigger issues can spin out of control and infect social media. No one wants to see their name quoted in a negative viral post about the game. No one wants to be associated with a decrease in stub sales because they said a little too much in a forum post that turned away users. Constraining dev updates to one way communication (like the dev stream) avoids some of this problem. If I was at SDS I would not look forward to facing this forum with news they don't want to hear.

At the end of the day it’s still a business. Maybe what the decent players want (an input based game with no RNG) is not the bes for the business.

SDS

My initial feedback is that the timing windows for the homerun OSD seem to be pretty good.

With this update, I feel I am being properly rewarded for hitting the x button and the banner goes away.

Great job guys!

SDS

@XxSwingman24Xx said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

Doesn’t matter... I’ve already gave up on this years game ✌🏻✌🏻

So then what was the purpose to lcomment? you don't think they really care about losing you do they? Did it feel good to get that out ?

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They have now addressed the fact that they can't get timing feedback correct with an "Out in front" feedback! Haha. Wow. They must have gotten that gem from Trump.

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@ComebackLogic said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

No adjustments to gameplay? The mind literally boggles. With a multitude of gameplay issues to choose from when deciding what to focus on primarily with 1.12, you went with.......... None of them. This will probably be my last MLB The Show game in all honesty. It’s the only game I’ve ever come across in over three decades of gaming where you can play for thousands of hours over five years, buy every expensive accessory available to assist your efforts and yet get worse at the game. There’s no sense of improvement or progressing your skills because the game is dictated by inconsistency to the point of feeling like a series of random occurrences.
This game is entirely focused around hitting home runs and there’s a total lack of respect for pitching and defense as it stands. There’s one player in the top 20 for this season who has an ERA below 5 and he’s sitting at 4.87. The current number one player this season in RS has an ERA of 7.01. Your game is terrible. Exactly what you think is fun about playing ninety minute games at Shippet where both teams combine for thirty or more runs, I’m unsure, but this is a terrible representation of the sport of baseball. This is some garbage arcade slugfest with zero emphasis on anything except overpowered hitting.

Man I’d love to say you’re wrong but I agree....every game is at that f-in shippet and it’s just whoever can go yard. You are right pitching is garbage, edge of the zone strikes never called and perfect pitching feedback means little. It becomes so repetitive that even as a baseball diehard and video game lover I can’t even hardly enjoy it. Just don’t get it........maybe this is as good as it gets. Just really bummed out is where I’m at.

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@sandule said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

They have now addressed the fact that they can't get timing feedback correct with an "Out in front" feedback! Haha. Wow. They must have gotten that gem from Trump.

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Is anyone really surprised that this is where we are at with this game? SDS has shown that it can accomplish little when they have tons of feedback from the online community. If they think the community is bad now... Just wait until the put out the same canned game they have been for the last 4 years ( excluding some minor feature and a couple new legends) to other consoles. The only way this gets fixed is if another studio comes along and drives some sort of competition which spurs innovation. Otherwise all these issues aren't going anywhere. Especially the RNG! Gotta keep all those new players engaged somehow and it sure isn't going to be because they bought a great game.

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@KOTANK1334 said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

Is anyone really surprised that this is where we are at with this game? SDS has shown that it can accomplish little when they have tons of feedback from the online community. If they think the community is bad now... Just wait until the put out the same canned game they have been for the last 4 years ( excluding some minor feature and a couple new legends) to other consoles. The only way this gets fixed is if another studio comes along and drives some sort of competition which spurs innovation. Otherwise all these issues aren't going anywhere. Especially the RNG! Gotta keep all those new players engaged somehow and it sure isn't going to be because they bought a great game.

I personally think that this game is working perfectly according to SDS interests. Our idea of a quality game is not their idea of a quality game. They see quality according to the money they make.

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You guys really went all out with this patch, good/sq dribblers and perfect outs while bombs hit on balls out of pci. A Consistent hitting engine would be so clutch for this game. But idk if it’s even possible, only you do. PS fielding still needs work but is MUCH better, and where is roger Clemons

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SDS still needs to fix the PCI, like take it out entirely, its a glitch, its a weird target in the middle of the screen, it gets in the way of hitting.

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@XxIamOmegaxX said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@XxSwingman24Xx said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

Doesn’t matter... I’ve already gave up on this years game ✌🏻✌🏻

So then what was the purpose to lcomment? you don't think they really care about losing you do they? Did it feel good to get that out ?

Yeah they actually messaged me and said they were sorry for being a shitty company and gave me a gift card to Red Lobster

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@TeamPotro said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

@KOTANK1334 said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

Is anyone really surprised that this is where we are at with this game? SDS has shown that it can accomplish little when they have tons of feedback from the online community. If they think the community is bad now... Just wait until the put out the same canned game they have been for the last 4 years ( excluding some minor feature and a couple new legends) to other consoles. The only way this gets fixed is if another studio comes along and drives some sort of competition which spurs innovation. Otherwise all these issues aren't going anywhere. Especially the RNG! Gotta keep all those new players engaged somehow and it sure isn't going to be because they bought a great game.

I personally think that this game is working perfectly according to SDS interests. Our idea of a quality game is not their idea of a quality game. They see quality according to the money they make.

user input - hitting and pitching - has taken a back seat since 18 came out. 18 and 19 it was hitting, and with 20 its the full RNG treatment for pitching. its clear that this game plays EXACTLY how SDS prefers at this point.

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Y'all do realize gameplay updates are rarely if ever done in back to back updates. There are different teams that work on different areas of the game.

Gameplay adjustments usually take some time while they test things out. I bet we see at least one more game update based on telemetry data from the PCI and timing window adjustments.

Personally, if we could get the strike calls on the black turned up a wee bit, check swing ability decreased, reduce how far pitches miss on good input I could live with the game as is.

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Well maybe one gp patch and left sds gets a F for this years game. Incompetent is the word im going to is to describe this years game. How do you expect to release a game across multiple platforms if you cant even release a game on one platform?

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You guys are a joke.

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@joshjays44 said in Game Update 1.12 Thread:

SDS still needs to fix the PCI, like take it out entirely, its a glitch, its a weird target in the middle of the screen, it gets in the way of hitting.

Hey little buddy(offline illuminati)! The pci is only for skilled players. That's represents the barrel of the bat. You know, the area you have to put on the ball along with a properly timed swing in order to hit the ball (kinda like real baseball). I dont expect you to understand.