Starters as relievers
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Really? The worst?
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Show me the MLB rule that prevents a manager from using the ball players on his team in any way he sees fit?
[censored] crybaby. Can’t hit so you wanna make SDS create some rules to make it easier for you....
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@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
Lol this is the worst post I’ve read in a long time. Let me know the next time you see a MLB team throw any starter in back to back games just to win
Arizona brought in Randy Johnson in relief of game 7 of the 2001 WS after throwing 7 innings the day before in game 6. For the record, I think being able to throw Kluber 2 innings every game and him not be tired is a problem that should be addressed. However, this system is SO much better than last year where you might not get to use even once him for 15 games. Also, the reason teams don’t use this strategy in the regular season (IMO) is due to fear of injury, which isn’t and shouldn’t be a part of DD. Hopefully they tweak the stamina a bit, but I like the ability to use every pitcher on my team.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Starters as relievers:
Oh okay lmao. Glad to see you’re back.
I owned you so badly on the General page when you falsely claimed I was 1) a bandwagon Nats fan and 2) Banned. Why do you spread lies on here? Again, I hope SDS pays you well.
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@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
This post is embarrassing on so many levels. The only time you rarely see starters come out of the bullpen during the regular season is during marathon extra inning games or true emergencies. It should not be routine in online play.
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@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@flamexJD20 said in Starters as relievers:
As is said multiple.times before, the Opener Strategy becomes more and more popular.
How SDS implented it in the game is the problem!- No Starter subbed in allowed after the 3rd Inning.
- It should hurt his recovery or drain his Stamina faster when subbed in.
- Relievers Stamina needs to be at 100%. I dont understand why they only have 75% Energy from the begin with
Yes if they did something like this I wouldn’t mind so much. There is absolutely no team in the bigs that brings starters in after the 6th inning and that’s what is ticking me off. Either that or limit the amount of starters per game to 2. I got no issue facing 2 starters in a game, but 3-4?? Gimme a break
Ive only had to face more than 2 starters like 5 times in 110 games. It really isnt a big deal. Its just another AI throwing a virtual ball to me. Get better at hitting those guys. Just let the rage pass.
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@NatsChampions19 said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
This post is embarrassing on so many levels. The only time you rarely see starters come out of the bullpen during the regular season is during marathon extra inning games or true emergencies. It should not be routine in online play.
What’s embarrassing is you not knowing the rules of baseball. Is there a rule that says you can’t use a starter out of the pen?
What’s embarrassing is you asking SDS to put in a non-existent baseball rule so that you have better chance of getting a base hit.
Go play Franchise Mode if you don’t like the Game 7 decision-making in RS.
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@NatsChampions19 said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
This post is embarrassing on so many levels. The only time you rarely see starters come out of the bullpen during the regular season is during marathon extra inning games or true emergencies. It should not be routine in online play.
You're constant crying about it is hats embarrassing. Be a gamer man. Take on the challenge and actually get better at batting against these guys. Just because you suck at hitting. I dont use my starters like that. But get over it. Just hit what you see is thrown. Does it matter who. Get better
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I didn't start this thread but anyone who claims ace starters being used out of the bullpen is a normal part of baseball are probably cheaters.
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@NatsChampions19 said in Starters as relievers:
I didn't start this thread but anyone who claims ace starters being used out of the bullpen is a normal part of baseball are probably cheaters.
Its not normal. But it gets done all the time in october. Get over yourself. Just because your not that great at hitting against starters. Idk why that would be a problem if apparently you see 5 of them every game somehow
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You guys need to really start looking at every Ranked Seasons game as WS Game 7. In that “real life” scenario, anything goes.
Get with your buddies and create a Custom League if you don’t like the win-at-all-cost approach to RS.
It’s crazy to me that people want SDS to actually program a non-existent baseball rule into RS..
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@c7susb9 said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
Lol this is the worst post I’ve read in a long time. Let me know the next time you see a MLB team throw any starter in back to back games just to win
Arizona brought in Randy Johnson in relief of game 7 of the 2001 WS after throwing 7 innings the day before in game 6. For the record, I think being able to throw Kluber 2 innings every game and him not be tired is a problem that should be addressed. However, this system is SO much better than last year where you might not get to use even once him for 15 games. Also, the reason teams don’t use this strategy in the regular season (IMO) is due to fear of injury, which isn’t and shouldn’t be a part of DD. Hopefully they tweak the stamina a bit, but I like the ability to use every pitcher on my team.
I agree that the pitcher wheel sucked, but pitcher selection and using starters out of the pen does not have to be all or nothing. You can have pitcher selection without having starters out of the pen.
I also like being able to use my team how I’d like, but irl if I use three starters and end up losing the game, that could ruin my team for the next five days. That is not the case in this game.
Stamina needs a major adjustment if starters out of the pen is going to stick around. At the moment there are almost no drawbacks to using the same guys game after game.
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@c7susb9 said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
Lol this is the worst post I’ve read in a long time. Let me know the next time you see a MLB team throw any starter in back to back games just to win
Arizona brought in Randy Johnson in relief of game 7 of the 2001 WS after throwing 7 innings the day before in game 6. For the record, I think being able to throw Kluber 2 innings every game and him not be tired is a problem that should be addressed. However, this system is SO much better than last year where you might not get to use even once him for 15 games. Also, the reason teams don’t use this strategy in the regular season (IMO) is due to fear of injury, which isn’t and shouldn’t be a part of DD. Hopefully they tweak the stamina a bit, but I like the ability to use every pitcher on my team.
It was game 7 of the World Series!! The last freaking game of the season!! There is always an exception! But it doesn’t happen on a regular basis every game during the regular season! I’m a huge DBacks fan btw so I love your choice of example, but let’s be realistic
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@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
Show me the MLB rule that prevents a manager from using the ball players on his team in any way he sees fit?
[censored] crybaby. Can’t hit so you wanna make SDS create some rules to make it easier for you....
Lol that’s right, I must not be able to hit...go straight to insults instead of using logic. why don’t you show me a manager that uses all his starters every single game of the season?? It’s a rule that he can, but does he do it??? Of course he doesn’t! There is a thing called fatigue, injury, etc. There is also a rule in baseball that says a check swing has nothing to do with if the bat crosses the plate on a swing for it to be considered a strike, it has to do with his intent to swing at the pitch. But do umpires always call check swings strikes?? Of course they don’t.
The rule has nothing to do with anything I’m talking about, so your point has no validity
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@BlackMKO said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@flamexJD20 said in Starters as relievers:
As is said multiple.times before, the Opener Strategy becomes more and more popular.
How SDS implented it in the game is the problem!- No Starter subbed in allowed after the 3rd Inning.
- It should hurt his recovery or drain his Stamina faster when subbed in.
- Relievers Stamina needs to be at 100%. I dont understand why they only have 75% Energy from the begin with
Yes if they did something like this I wouldn’t mind so much. There is absolutely no team in the bigs that brings starters in after the 6th inning and that’s what is ticking me off. Either that or limit the amount of starters per game to 2. I got no issue facing 2 starters in a game, but 3-4?? Gimme a break
Ive only had to face more than 2 starters like 5 times in 110 games. It really isnt a big deal. Its just another AI throwing a virtual ball to me. Get better at hitting those guys. Just let the rage pass.
Has nothing to do with rage. I hit just fine, especially Newhouser. I actually love when people bring him in out the pen and proceed to destroy high fastballs
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@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@BlackMKO said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@flamexJD20 said in Starters as relievers:
As is said multiple.times before, the Opener Strategy becomes more and more popular.
How SDS implented it in the game is the problem!- No Starter subbed in allowed after the 3rd Inning.
- It should hurt his recovery or drain his Stamina faster when subbed in.
- Relievers Stamina needs to be at 100%. I dont understand why they only have 75% Energy from the begin with
Yes if they did something like this I wouldn’t mind so much. There is absolutely no team in the bigs that brings starters in after the 6th inning and that’s what is ticking me off. Either that or limit the amount of starters per game to 2. I got no issue facing 2 starters in a game, but 3-4?? Gimme a break
Ive only had to face more than 2 starters like 5 times in 110 games. It really isnt a big deal. Its just another AI throwing a virtual ball to me. Get better at hitting those guys. Just let the rage pass.
Has nothing to do with rage. I hit just fine, especially Newhouser. I actually love when people bring him in out the pen and proceed to destroy high fastballs
Well then i dont see the big deal.
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Starters as relievers:
@c7susb9 said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@maurice91932 said in Starters as relievers:
There is nothing wrong with starters out of the pen.
This is Ranked Seasons. People are trying to win stubs, XP, and card rewards. They should have their entire 25-man roster available to them in anyway they see fit.
There are no rules in MLB that prevent a manager from using a player however they want. Position player as pitcher? Why not? A pitcher used as a pinch hitter or pinch runner? Go for it. Whatever you think will help you win the game. SDS did the correct thing by allowing us to do this.
What difference does it make if your opponent uses a SP out of the pen? Your job at the plate is to get hits. Period. Starter, Relief, Closer—it makes no difference. Do your job.
But I will say that if SDS wanted to reduce the usage of SPs out of the pen, they have to release better relievers. I think Rollie is the only reliever over 90. At least he’s all I can think of at the moment.
Lol this is the worst post I’ve read in a long time. Let me know the next time you see a MLB team throw any starter in back to back games just to win
Arizona brought in Randy Johnson in relief of game 7 of the 2001 WS after throwing 7 innings the day before in game 6. For the record, I think being able to throw Kluber 2 innings every game and him not be tired is a problem that should be addressed. However, this system is SO much better than last year where you might not get to use even once him for 15 games. Also, the reason teams don’t use this strategy in the regular season (IMO) is due to fear of injury, which isn’t and shouldn’t be a part of DD. Hopefully they tweak the stamina a bit, but I like the ability to use every pitcher on my team.
I agree that the pitcher wheel sucked, but pitcher selection and using starters out of the pen does not have to be all or nothing. You can have pitcher selection without having starters out of the pen.
I also like being able to use my team how I’d like, but irl if I use three starters and end up losing the game, that could ruin my team for the next five days. That is not the case in this game.
Stamina needs a major adjustment if starters out of the pen is going to stick around. At the moment there are almost no drawbacks to using the same guys game after game.
I actually agree with this. If the stamina is adjusted and there were actual consequences for people bringing in starters, it would force people to actually think about brining in a starter in relief. Just like a manager IRL would be forced to think about the consequences of his actions for the next game
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I generally don’t see an issue when it’s an option for everyone - like when golf freaked out about long putters: if it was such an advantage, everyone would use it...and if you choose not to, that’s on you. Feel kinda the same about the shift - everyone is free to do it, and it comes with advantages and disadvantages.
I’m as annoyed as anyone when Kluber comes in in the 8th when I’m down 1...but nothing stopping me from doing the same, so it doesn’t bother me too much.
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@BlackMKO said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@BlackMKO said in Starters as relievers:
@Sayjinman said in Starters as relievers:
@flamexJD20 said in Starters as relievers:
As is said multiple.times before, the Opener Strategy becomes more and more popular.
How SDS implented it in the game is the problem!- No Starter subbed in allowed after the 3rd Inning.
- It should hurt his recovery or drain his Stamina faster when subbed in.
- Relievers Stamina needs to be at 100%. I dont understand why they only have 75% Energy from the begin with
Yes if they did something like this I wouldn’t mind so much. There is absolutely no team in the bigs that brings starters in after the 6th inning and that’s what is ticking me off. Either that or limit the amount of starters per game to 2. I got no issue facing 2 starters in a game, but 3-4?? Gimme a break
Ive only had to face more than 2 starters like 5 times in 110 games. It really isnt a big deal. Its just another AI throwing a virtual ball to me. Get better at hitting those guys. Just let the rage pass.
Has nothing to do with rage. I hit just fine, especially Newhouser. I actually love when people bring him in out the pen and proceed to destroy high fastballs
Well then i dont see the big deal.
I guess the problem I have is there are no consequences for doing it. Stamina really isn’t effected for the next game, and that was a big bullet point that they hit on before launch when they announced this new rule. They got rid of the pitching wheel so you can use the pitcher you want, with the idea of there being consequences for your actions in the form of the stamina bar. Bringing in a starter in relief for 2 innings or more has almost no consequence compared to starting him.
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@seannydrama7 said in Starters as relievers:
I generally don’t see an issue when it’s an option for everyone - like when golf freaked out about long putters: if it was such an advantage, everyone would use it...and if you choose not to, that’s on you. Feel kinda the same about the shift - everyone is free to do it, and it comes with advantages and disadvantages.
I’m as annoyed as anyone when Kluber comes in in the 8th when I’m down 1...but nothing stopping me from doing the same, so it doesn’t bother me too much.
And there in lies the problem. All these people on here saying “it’s a rule” or “get good” or “learn how to hit”. Has nothing to do with it. The meta of the game forces you to play a specific way in order to be competitive. Right now, if I want to be competitive I have to bring starters in out the pen to match my opponent. Could I do it? Sure I could. Should I be forced to? No I shouldn’t. But the fact there is soooo much of an advantage to doing it with so little consequences is the problem
