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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    #24

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. I was actually just wondering if anyone other than him had won it. The problem I see with it being used in MLB the show is people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

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    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

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    #26

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

    I loved watching Tim Wakefield pitch as a kid, you never knew what the ball was going to do even Jason Varitek didn't know where it was going to end up sometimes. If it works it can be a complete pain to deal with. Not to mention it's hard to throw one as well.

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    #27

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

    I loved watching Tim Wakefield pitch as a kid, you never knew what the ball was going to do even Jason Varitek didn't know where it was going to end up sometimes. If it works it can be a complete pain to deal with. Not to mention it's hard to throw one as well.

    Who doesnt remember how badly Varitek handled that knuckler during the 04 ALCS? What did he end up with that one inning, 3 passed balls?

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    @Yankee_Nation said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @olivegarden2 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @SchnauzerFace said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @olivegarden2 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @Renz2003 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    I miss the days of mlb 18 when the bronze Nekro and silver wright were some of the best pitchers. Maybe a gold Tim Wakefield or silver Tom candiotti

    I hate people that play like this. They have no skill, they use common knuckleballers to win games. Watch this and you will see why you are hated using knuckleballers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnxaWyDBWw

    Son, if you ever try to trick me into watching a Koogs video again I’m going to defecate in your bucket of LEGO.

    What is wrong with Koogs? He isn't the best creator but he isn't the worst.

    You’re right, He does a good job...But it’s just something about him that rubs me the wrong way as well....I know it’s silly but it pisses me off that he always wears long sleeve shirts even when he’s at a 100 degree baseball game in August or when he’s on the beach....He also has a face that I just want to see someone come in off camera and punch him in it lol. And just his general demeanor pisses me iff.

    Just looking at him makes me wanna throw up

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  • samguenther1987_PSNS Offline
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    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

    I loved watching Tim Wakefield pitch as a kid, you never knew what the ball was going to do even Jason Varitek didn't know where it was going to end up sometimes. If it works it can be a complete pain to deal with. Not to mention it's hard to throw one as well.

    Who doesnt remember how badly Varitek handled that knuckler during the 04 ALCS? What did he end up with that one inning, 3 passed balls?

    It was 3. The first one got Sheffield on base the second one allowed him second they walked Possada and then Wakefield threw one more wild pitch. Crazy inning.

    https://www.overthemonster.com/2016/1/14/10761764/tim-wakefield-jason-varitek-and-the-inning-the-world-stood-still

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    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

    I loved watching Tim Wakefield pitch as a kid, you never knew what the ball was going to do even Jason Varitek didn't know where it was going to end up sometimes. If it works it can be a complete pain to deal with. Not to mention it's hard to throw one as well.

    Who doesnt remember how badly Varitek handled that knuckler during the 04 ALCS? What did he end up with that one inning, 3 passed balls?

    Doug Mirabelli was his personal catcher that's why. Varitek rarely caught him but it just goes to show what a deadly pitch it is, that a great catcher like Varitek can't even catch the freaking thing lol

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  • mjfc_363_PSNM Offline
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    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Players??? You mean the Niekro brothers, Wakefield, Dickey, Wright aaaaaaand who else? Off the top of my head, I can think of 1 Cy Young winner and 1 HOF out of thousands of players that have played MLB. You make it sound like all kinds of players do it all the time. Allow me to be more specific, the knuckle is a gimmick pitch in this game that allows for no skill or thought process in you’re pitch selection.

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    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Players??? You mean the Niekro brothers, Wakefield, Dickey, Wright aaaaaaand who else? Off the top of my head, I can think of 1 Cy Young winner and 1 HOF out of thousands of players that have played MLB. You make it sound like all kinds of players do it all the time. Allow me to be more specific, the knuckle is a gimmick pitch in this game that allows for no skill or thought process in you’re pitch selection.

    Obviously you haven't read the posts in this thread, or you would have seen other names you didnt mention. Also, there are at least 2 in the HOF, Phil Niekro and Hoyt Wilhelm.

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    Ah yes how could I forget Hoyt Wilhelm.

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    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Players??? You mean the Niekro brothers, Wakefield, Dickey, Wright aaaaaaand who else? Off the top of my head, I can think of 1 Cy Young winner and 1 HOF out of thousands of players that have played MLB. You make it sound like all kinds of players do it all the time. Allow me to be more specific, the knuckle is a gimmick pitch in this game that allows for no skill or thought process in you’re pitch selection.

    Obviously you haven't read the posts in this thread, or you would have seen other names you didnt mention. Also, there are at least 2 in the HOF, Phil Niekro and Hoyt Wilhelm.

    Was anything I said incorrect? Who were the great many other players who threw the gimmick pitch? Beside Charlie Hough and Candiotti. Who were the many knuckleballers that made the HOF?

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    Knuckleballers don't know where it's going in real life, neither should some cheeser using a knuckler in DD.

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    Nope
    We good

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    @braydencombs said in Need some knuckleballers:

    You may want to delete this before they come for you.

    Lmfaooooo

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    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @formallyforearms said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @samguenther1987 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @notoriousHEB said in Need some knuckleballers:

    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Knuckleballers = No skill.

    Wouldn't no skill be the guy that can't hit a 70 MPH lob? Plenty of people crush knucklers.

    But it's like the people that can't cry about it being unfair rather than admitting it's hard to judge and hit. Players have had great extensive careers with the pitch, All Star games, CY Young awards and HOF enshrinements because of 1 pitch.

    Who other then R.A Dickey has won a Cy Young using the Knuckleball?

    I dont think anyone else has.

    Phil Neikro had 5x top 6 finishes including a 2nd, and 3rd.
    Tim Wakefield finished 3rd
    Hoyt Wilhelm had a top 5 MVP finish (4th)
    Wilbur Wood had 3 top 5 finishes including 2nd, and 3rd

    So there have definitely been very successful knuckleball pitching seasons.

    O I'm not arguing that it can be a effective pitch and MLB pitchers have had success with it. Problem is with MLB the show people use it to be dicks and get others to quit, it's easy enough to figure out though and then can be very hittable. I just don't think we need more knuckleball pitchers.

    I was just answering the question. But I also (maybe incorrectly) interpreted the question being posed as that knuckleball season being a fluke.

    I loved watching Tim Wakefield pitch as a kid, you never knew what the ball was going to do even Jason Varitek didn't know where it was going to end up sometimes. If it works it can be a complete pain to deal with. Not to mention it's hard to throw one as well.

    The amount of almost no hitters he threw was crazy...I miss Wakefield I know the batters he faced do not lol

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    @Renz2003 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    I miss the days of mlb 18 when the bronze Nekro and silver wright were some of the best pitchers. Maybe a gold Tim Wakefield or silver Tom candiotti

    Bruh I just want to "censored" you up now.

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    Nah we really don’t.

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    Maybe we could get pitching fixed so the other 99% of the pitchers can locate a fastball before we add knuckleballers to the game again?

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    @mjfc_363 said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Ah yes how could I forget Hoyt Wilhelm.

    Hes in the HOF. Kind of hard to downplay Hall of Famers.

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    @halfbutt said in Need some knuckleballers:

    Maybe we could get pitching fixed so the other 99% of the pitchers can locate a fastball before we add knuckleballers to the game again?

    Agreed

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