Elite players
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@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
Actually pitchers pitch In the strike zone except when they need to, watch any game good pitchers throw in the strike zone except in strike out situations or to get a fly ball, ground ball dp. I can lay off a lot of pitches just seeing why that’s peoples strategy tho
Wrong.
In real life a hitter won't swing at pitches outside of the zone that often, because they are major league hitters... but if they show they can't lay off a particular pitch outside the zone, they'll never get a pitch in the zone. It's literally the whole idea of pitching man.Find weaknesses and exploit them. I'll throw 5 sliders in a row if I find you can't hit them.
A major league pitcher will too. It's what pitching is.
If you haven't noticed this watching IRL, next time pay attention. It's literally the point of pitching -
@Hikes83 obviously you didn’t read where I said not crying or complaining scrub just seeing if that’s peoples strategy
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Greg Maddux -12 strike outs complete game 85 pitches, that’s a true dominate pitcher
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@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
@Hikes83 obviously you didn’t read where I said not crying or complaining scrub just seeing if that’s peoples strategy
Of course it isn’t! But people won’t throw meatballs either. Most of the people aim for the frame and you either hit or miss. It’s not rocket science
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These games be going for an hour + long when realistically they should be 30 mins 40
Tops that’s what I’m talking bout -
I’m not trying to pile on with the “just don’t swing” takes, but honestly, nothing will make you more successful at this game than learning to lay off bad pitches (not even balls - even pitches on the black that usually lead to outs, which is worse than a strike). Good players understand that developing that discipline is hard, and most players don’t have it, so of course they will use it to their advantage.
I’m by no means elite, but Showdowns actually helped me a ton with this, because the only way to succeed is lay off pitches until you get one to drive.
I know it’s frustrating, but you can’t really fault the pitchers for exploiting a hitter’s lack of plate discipline.
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@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
Pitcher control is easy for me , so that’s not a real excuse especially if people been playing this game for years now
Eh not true. I know I'll use diamond pitchers with good control where I'll throw a fastball on the inside corner, hit the meter perfect and the ball leaks towards the middle. The pitching in this game leaves a lot to be desired.
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If i notice my opponent has 0 zone awareness I am going to throw 0 strikes until they show me they can not swing. pretty simple
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@theman925 said in Elite players:
@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
Pitcher control is easy for me , so that’s not a real excuse especially if people been playing this game for years now
Eh not true. I know I'll use diamond pitchers with good control where I'll throw a fastball on the inside corner, hit the meter perfect and the ball leaks towards the middle. The pitching in this game leaves a lot to be desired.
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@seannydrama7 said in Elite players:
I’m not trying to pile on with the “just don’t swing” takes, but honestly, nothing will make you more successful at this game than learning to lay off bad pitches (not even balls - even pitches on the black that usually lead to outs, which is worse than a strike). Good players understand that developing that discipline is hard, and most players don’t have it, so of course they will use it to their advantage.
I’m by no means elite, but Showdowns actually helped me a ton with this, because the only way to succeed is lay off pitches until you get one to drive.
I know it’s frustrating, but you can’t really fault the pitchers for exploiting a hitter’s lack of plate discipline.
This is true. Provided you approach each moment and boss battle correctly and try to beat it with the right mindset, your discipline will improve in leaps and bounds. You’ll only learn if you want to, if you try and rush through the missions you’ll fail and get no improvement.
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@maskedgrappler said in Elite players:
@theman925 said in Elite players:
@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
Pitcher control is easy for me , so that’s not a real excuse especially if people been playing this game for years now
Eh not true. I know I'll use diamond pitchers with good control where I'll throw a fastball on the inside corner, hit the meter perfect and the ball leaks towards the middle. The pitching in this game leaves a lot to be desired.
Pitching in this game is a mess.
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I kinda feel like so many people don't actually know what real baseball is by their posts.
If a pitcher could only throw balls and get the batter to swing at it the majority of the time, they would do so in RL.
You have to prove you can consistently lay off pitches, no one is going to walk you 3 times in a row etc, they will throw it in the zone if you make them.
It's not my job to throw you a hittable pitch, it's your job to force me to throw one.
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@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
No doubt the solution is don’t swing at all the pitches , I have a good eye especially playing baseball for so many years but it’s frustrating to see thsts people strategy, when in real life no pitcher does that
Umm a pitcher would do that every pitch if a hitter had that type of approach.. and if you have a good eye then move along and take the walk. They ain’t sexy but can win you the game. That’s all that matters. And the more you take when someone plays like that your bound to get a fat one soon
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To be good you gotta throw dots. Simple
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How long have you been playing the game ? This game takes time to be good at and get a good eye. Even if you ask the best players at this game very few had a good first year at the game. But fixing it is up to you and the amount of time you want to practice and get better. Every decent player at this game is going to exploit you at the plate if they find out you can’t hit a certain pitch, or can’t lay off bad pitches.
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I have alot of trouble with same handed pitching and will swing at junk. The number 1 thing that works for me is a pick a spot and sit on that high fastball. If its not a high fastball I dont swing until he has two strikes on me. If you get walked you should be able to steal any base if they are throwing alot of off speed junk balls
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I’ve found the only strikes you should throw is directly down the middle. Hard af to hit.
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@seannydrama7 said in Elite players:
I’m not trying to pile on with the “just don’t swing” takes, but honestly, nothing will make you more successful at this game than learning to lay off bad pitches (not even balls - even pitches on the black that usually lead to outs, which is worse than a strike). Good players understand that developing that discipline is hard, and most players don’t have it, so of course they will use it to their advantage.
I’m by no means elite, but Showdowns actually helped me a ton with this, because the only way to succeed is lay off pitches until you get one to drive.
I know it’s frustrating, but you can’t really fault the pitchers for exploiting a hitter’s lack of plate discipline.
Couldn’t have said it better myself...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Elite players:
@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
No doubt the solution is don’t swing at all the pitches , I have a good eye especially playing baseball for so many years but it’s frustrating to see thsts people strategy, when in real life no pitcher does that
In real life, every pitcher does this. It's called expanding the zone.
Every. Single. Pitcher will expand on what a hitter will swing at. If you show you're impatient, you'll never get a pitch in the zone to swing at. A pitcher would be stupid to do so. On an 0-2 count, you'll never see a strike in the zone. The object of pitching is to minimize chances plain and simple. If you can lay off bad pitches, then it's on you. Especially in real lifeI think part of the different between real baseball and video game baseball is I could tell right away if a ball if going to be in the dirt or at my eyes in real baseball. I do struggle on a screen to make that same determination, mostly with balls below the zone.
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@aaronjw76 said in Elite players:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Elite players:
@Cashme0ut510 said in Elite players:
No doubt the solution is don’t swing at all the pitches , I have a good eye especially playing baseball for so many years but it’s frustrating to see thsts people strategy, when in real life no pitcher does that
In real life, every pitcher does this. It's called expanding the zone.
Every. Single. Pitcher will expand on what a hitter will swing at. If you show you're impatient, you'll never get a pitch in the zone to swing at. A pitcher would be stupid to do so. On an 0-2 count, you'll never see a strike in the zone. The object of pitching is to minimize chances plain and simple. If you can lay off bad pitches, then it's on you. Especially in real lifeI think part of the different between real baseball and video game baseball is I could tell right away if a ball if going to be in the dirt or at my eyes in real baseball. I do struggle on a screen to make that same determination, mostly with balls below the zone.
With major league calibre pitching, you wouldn't be able to tell that well at all. Major league hitters can't...