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  • xIAmJumpMan23x_PSNX Offline
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    @Freddy_Sez said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @domdw99 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Haha my favorite is Chapman having a sinker. Don’t know when he developed that since I watch every Yankee game.

    Been throwing one for a few years.

    https://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=547973&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/06/2020&s_type=2

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=SI

    As a Yankee fan who has watched a LOT of Yankee baseball o can confidently say that Chapman does not throw a sinker, certainly doesn't throw a mid-90s sinker, and DEFINITELY doesn't throw a mid-90s sinker AND 2-seamer

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    Personally, I think SDS doesn't know anything about baseball. They got the jobs through connects and are clueless about baseball in general. Not just chapman but with other live series players too. The stats just don't match up and/nor make any sense.

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    @Project__iLL said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Personally, I think SDS doesn't know anything about baseball. They got the jobs through connects and are clueless about baseball in general. Not just chapman but with other live series players too. The stats just don't match up and/nor make any sense.

    Agreed, max muncy has better power than Bryce Harper 😂😂

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    @domdw99 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Haha my favorite is Chapman having a sinker. Don’t know when he developed that since I watch every Yankee game.

    I am not trying to be a [censored], your post piqued my interest so I looked it up. Chapman threw 98 sinkers in 2019.

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=SI

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    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @Freddy_Sez said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @domdw99 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Haha my favorite is Chapman having a sinker. Don’t know when he developed that since I watch every Yankee game.

    Been throwing one for a few years.

    https://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=547973&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/06/2020&s_type=2

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=SI

    As a Yankee fan who has watched a LOT of Yankee baseball o can confidently say that Chapman does not throw a sinker, certainly doesn't throw a mid-90s sinker, and DEFINITELY doesn't throw a mid-90s sinker AND 2-seamer

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

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    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

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    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH

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    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

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    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

    Believe me, I am not arguing at all. If you don't like the facts, or don't believe that they are accurate,that's fine. Was only trying to add to the conversation.

    Good health to you and yours.

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    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

    Believe me, I am not arguing at all. If you don't like the facts, or don't believe that they are accurate,that's fine. Was only trying to add to the conversation.

    Good health to you and yours.

    Well done Owl. Sometimes clouding the issues with facts “ruffles some feathers” if you know what I mean (sorry not sorry for the pun). Kept it classy. Remember, Yankees fans only see their players through pinstriped glasses and only worry about pointing out their rings from the past. I mean seriously, they also think Jeter “earned” all those gold gloves because of his superior defense. Yikes. Lol

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    @BIGHOOV2713 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

    Believe me, I am not arguing at all. If you don't like the facts, or don't believe that they are accurate,that's fine. Was only trying to add to the conversation.

    Good health to you and yours.

    Well done Owl. Sometimes clouding the issues with facts “ruffles some feathers” if you know what I mean (sorry not sorry for the pun). Kept it classy. Remember, Yankees fans only see their players through pinstriped glasses and only worry about pointing out their rings from the past. I mean seriously, they also think Jeter “earned” all those gold gloves because of his superior defense. Yikes. Lol

    Thanks! And just to continue the theme of being classy, I'll hold off on telling you my feelings towards NYY fans.

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    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @BIGHOOV2713 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

    Believe me, I am not arguing at all. If you don't like the facts, or don't believe that they are accurate,that's fine. Was only trying to add to the conversation.

    Good health to you and yours.

    Well done Owl. Sometimes clouding the issues with facts “ruffles some feathers” if you know what I mean (sorry not sorry for the pun). Kept it classy. Remember, Yankees fans only see their players through pinstriped glasses and only worry about pointing out their rings from the past. I mean seriously, they also think Jeter “earned” all those gold gloves because of his superior defense. Yikes. Lol

    Thanks! And just to continue the theme of being classy, I'll hold off on telling you my feelings towards NYY fans.

    Touché, sir.

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    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    I said he throws a Changeup more than a 2seam. If ur so into stats, gimme one on his 2seam wise guy

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    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=CH
    So you're entire argument is basically "the internet says it so it must be true"? As someone who has watched thousands of innings of Yankee baseball I can tell you (along with others who actually watch the games) that he does not throw a sinker

    I rather trust a reliable source like fangraphs than your eyeball...

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    @Freddy_Sez said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @domdw99 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Haha my favorite is Chapman having a sinker. Don’t know when he developed that since I watch every Yankee game.

    Been throwing one for a few years.

    https://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=547973&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=05/06/2020&s_type=2

    https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aroldis-chapman/10233/pitch-type-splits?position=P&data=pi&pitchtype=SI

    Brilliant post. Too often in the current landscape of declarations as truth - without either supporting facts or often any fact-checking at all - statements like the one you refuted just get accepted.

    Bravo.

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    @aron1740 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @Project__iLL said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Personally, I think SDS doesn't know anything about baseball. They got the jobs through connects and are clueless about baseball in general. Not just chapman but with other live series players too. The stats just don't match up and/nor make any sense.

    Agreed, max muncy has better power than Bryce Harper 😂😂

    Nolan Gorman has better hitting stats then Trout.

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    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @xIAmJumpMan23x said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl

    Chapman since 2014 has thrown 214 sinkers at an average speed of 101 MPH.

    True, but he does not throw a 2seam, but they refuse to give him a Changeup which he does throw more often

    Chapman Changeups By Year Since 2014

    2014- 63
    2015- 89
    2016- 31
    2017- 31
    2018- 7
    2019- 1

    I said he throws a Changeup more than a 2seam. If ur so into stats, gimme one on his 2seam wise guy

    He doesn't throw a two seam fastball. Although a sinker and a two seam can be considered the same. I am done with you, there is no reason to be so obnoxious and rude. Good day.

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    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    I said he throws a Changeup more than a 2seam. If ur so into stats, gimme one on his 2seam wise guy

    He doesn't throw a two seam fastball. Although a sinker and a two seam can be considered the same. I am done with you, there is no reason to be so obnoxious and rude. Good day.

    Exactly. So my statement of a changeup more than a 2 Seam would be correct. All I’m looking for 😉

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    @WillTheThrill_7 said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    @PhatWhiteOwl said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    I said he throws a Changeup more than a 2seam. If ur so into stats, gimme one on his 2seam wise guy

    He doesn't throw a two seam fastball. Although a sinker and a two seam can be considered the same. I am done with you, there is no reason to be so obnoxious and rude. Good day.

    Exactly. So my statement of a changeup more than a 2 Seam would be correct. All I’m looking for 😉

    Sure.

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    @ComebackLogic said in Mlb the Sinker 20:

    Hey that’s not fair! They gave everyone a slurve too!

    Why don’t they just put more movement on fastballs?

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