I got a beef with the dynamic potential system
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@pbake12 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
Case study regarding number 1 and 2 could be Carlos Gomez. Terrible first 5 years of mlb, with high potential still, then made AS teams. Probably others, but first that comes to mind.
Alex Gordon also comes to mind.
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@pbake12 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
Case study regarding number 1 and 2 could be Carlos Gomez. Terrible first 5 years of mlb, with high potential still, then made AS teams. Probably others, but first that comes to mind.
Barry Zito and Tim Lincecum could be examples of the inverse.
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@ViatorLion10 said in [I got a beef with the dynamic potential
I've tested all of these things in the past, so I can tell you confidently that this system needs some fixing
Please share with me the findings of your study
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@PurpAndGold89 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
@ViatorLion10 said in [I got a beef with the dynamic potential
I've tested all of these things in the past, so I can tell you confidently that this system needs some fixing
Please share with me the findings of your study
What do you want to know?
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@PurpAndGold89 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
@pbake12 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
Case study regarding number 1 and 2 could be Carlos Gomez. Terrible first 5 years of mlb, with high potential still, then made AS teams. Probably others, but first that comes to mind.
Alex Gordon also comes to mind.
Alex Gordon had a combined 4.8 WAR in his first two seasons, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. He had two bad seasons following that before a 6.6 WAR in his 5th season
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I'd like to see your study.
To be honest, I don't think you understand what potential is. Potential reflects future potential performance.
You want potential to reflect past results. That is not what potential is.
That is all I have to say about this subject.
Take care!
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@PurpAndGold89 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
I'd like to see your study.
To be honest, I don't think you understand what potential is. Potential reflects future potential performance.
You want potential to reflect past results. That is not what potential is.
That is all I have to say about this subject.
Take care!
Potential is the max overall a player can achieve. Players in real life both overachieve their projections and underachieve their projections
Past performance should absolutely adjust a players "max OVR"
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@ViatorLion10 said in
Past performance should absolutely adjust a players "max OVR"
Why?
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@PurpAndGold89 said in I got a beef with the dynamic potential system:
@ViatorLion10 said in
Past performance should absolutely adjust a players "max OVR"
Why?
You realize that "potential" in real life is a guess about how good a player will be right? A lot of times, that can actually be wrong.
So why should a player keep developing like an MVP if he hasn't performed like one?
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I just manually adjust it when necessary. If a prospect is consistently performing well I bump him up to A or B. Haven't really had to bump anyone down as I have found that if they don't perform well, they don't see a ton of benefit from the A. For example I am in year 2025 and had a CF prospect who started somewhere around 74 OVR with A potential. He hung out in the minors for the first few years and has now been in the bigs for the last 2 seasons as a depth player. I think he's up to 79/80 now. ~1 OVR per year is fairly reasonable for that situation in my mind.
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