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As much as I hate his guys, statistically speaking, the answer is Barry Bonds, both as a Pirate and a Giant.
Ignoring Bonds, I would say Ken Griffey Jr., but by the time he got to Cincinnati, he was a shell of his former self. I may have to go with Tony Gwynn, at least in the early 90s he was still great. Saw Glavine and Smoltz, but never got to see Maddux or the big unit live.
Best game I went to, well most memorable, I was at the brawl between the Reds and Cardinals, where Molina and Phillips had words at the plate right in the bottom of the first, Cueto kicked LaRue I believe. Quite a nasty site as bad as anything I have ever seen at a hockey game.
Shoot. I forgot about Barry. I sat in the right field seats on opening day at dodger stadium one year and the guy must have hit the ball a good 20 rows behind me. It was unbelievable.
Such a shame. As much as I dislike him, Barry was great before ever touching a needle. The talent was unquestionable. But the jealousy bug got him, he just couldn’t stand seeing players he considered inferior surpassing him (McGwire). That season where he hit .370 and a ton of home runs was amazing, not for the counting stats but because he walked almost every at bat, rarely swung, but when he did it was “perfect/perfect”. That isn’t just roids.
.370 46 hr 110 rbi. 47 strikeouts. 198 BB!!!
He just made the perfect villain though, especially if you’re a dodger fan. He was incredibly good, he didn’t hesitate to tell you how good he was, he was a cheater, he broke several sacred records, and did I mention that he was really good. The crazy thing is I believe he could’ve have done all of it without the steroids. Unfortunately we’ll never know. But it was still amazing to see what the guy could do on a baseball field.
The thing with Barry though is that he’s just as much a victim as he is a villain. Barry Bonds was Mike Trout before anyone even looked at WAR. He was a victim of being under appreciated and his talent was evaluated differently in the era he played. Counting stats were what got the attention. If Bonds had been evaluated then in the way we view Trout now, the narrative around him would be different and perhaps he never would’ve sought the attention he craved because his greatness would’ve been appreciated and recognized at the time.
He may not have been the most likeable personality, but his prickly relationship with the media also stemmed from his frustrations in his lack of recognition as the best player in the game. In 1996, Barry put up a 40/40 season worth 9.7 WAR and finished 5th in the NL MVP vote. Two years later, Sammy Sosa won the NL MVP with 66hrs and a 6.5 WAR. That same season, Mark McGwire hit 70hrs and posted a 7.5 WAR, finishing 2nd in NL MVP voting. Barry Bonds that season? His 37hrs were barely half as many as McGwire’s. Barry finished 8th in NL MVP voting despite posting an NL best 8.1 WAR for position players. They were different times and different metrics were used to measure these guys.
I’m not a live or die by WAR kind of guy, but it’s so easy to see how under appreciated he was in his time, and easy to see how it could motivate him to do what he thought was necessary to receive the recognition he thought he deserved.
These are excellent points sir!!! Truth be told I hated Barry growing up. Now that I’ve learned so much of what was really going on (the owners knew they were doing roids and never stopped it cuz it was necessary to “save baseball”) I 100% back him for the Hall. He’s the best hitter of all time and it’s not even close!!
I absolutely agree, I was in my early 20's when it all unfolded. I always stuck behind those players, cause they saved baseball. The strike in 94 sucked, and the EXPOS had a chance to win it all. Gwynn was on the verge to hit .400 so many good things were happening in 94 and then the strike came.
1994 was crazy.
Matt Williams was on pace to hit 61hr with 43hr in 115 games. And there were several guys right behind him including Junior.
Knoblauch, Biggio and Walker had 45/44/44 doubles and one of them could have broken the doubles record.
For anyone who only knows Greg Maddux from the garbage card he gets in MLBTS, check the 1994 stats. 16-6 with a 1.56 era. Had a shot at the best season since dead ball era. Followed up next year with 19-2 1.63 era .811 WHIP.
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I watched chipper Jones go 3-4 with a double and 2 rbi in his final season at 40 years old. He also made a diving stop at 3rd.
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As much as I hate his guys, statistically speaking, the answer is Barry Bonds, both as a Pirate and a Giant.
Ignoring Bonds, I would say Ken Griffey Jr., but by the time he got to Cincinnati, he was a shell of his former self. I may have to go with Tony Gwynn, at least in the early 90s he was still great. Saw Glavine and Smoltz, but never got to see Maddux or the big unit live.
Best game I went to, well most memorable, I was at the brawl between the Reds and Cardinals, where Molina and Phillips had words at the plate right in the bottom of the first, Cueto kicked LaRue I believe. Quite a nasty site as bad as anything I have ever seen at a hockey game.
Shoot. I forgot about Barry. I sat in the right field seats on opening day at dodger stadium one year and the guy must have hit the ball a good 20 rows behind me. It was unbelievable.
Such a shame. As much as I dislike him, Barry was great before ever touching a needle. The talent was unquestionable. But the jealousy bug got him, he just couldn’t stand seeing players he considered inferior surpassing him (McGwire). That season where he hit .370 and a ton of home runs was amazing, not for the counting stats but because he walked almost every at bat, rarely swung, but when he did it was “perfect/perfect”. That isn’t just roids.
.370 46 hr 110 rbi. 47 strikeouts. 198 BB!!!
He just made the perfect villain though, especially if you’re a dodger fan. He was incredibly good, he didn’t hesitate to tell you how good he was, he was a cheater, he broke several sacred records, and did I mention that he was really good. The crazy thing is I believe he could’ve have done all of it without the steroids. Unfortunately we’ll never know. But it was still amazing to see what the guy could do on a baseball field.
The thing with Barry though is that he’s just as much a victim as he is a villain. Barry Bonds was Mike Trout before anyone even looked at WAR. He was a victim of being under appreciated and his talent was evaluated differently in the era he played. Counting stats were what got the attention. If Bonds had been evaluated then in the way we view Trout now, the narrative around him would be different and perhaps he never would’ve sought the attention he craved because his greatness would’ve been appreciated and recognized at the time.
He may not have been the most likeable personality, but his prickly relationship with the media also stemmed from his frustrations in his lack of recognition as the best player in the game. In 1996, Barry put up a 40/40 season worth 9.7 WAR and finished 5th in the NL MVP vote. Two years later, Sammy Sosa won the NL MVP with 66hrs and a 6.5 WAR. That same season, Mark McGwire hit 70hrs and posted a 7.5 WAR, finishing 2nd in NL MVP voting. Barry Bonds that season? His 37hrs were barely half as many as McGwire’s. Barry finished 8th in NL MVP voting despite posting an NL best 8.1 WAR for position players. They were different times and different metrics were used to measure these guys.
I’m not a live or die by WAR kind of guy, but it’s so easy to see how under appreciated he was in his time, and easy to see how it could motivate him to do what he thought was necessary to receive the recognition he thought he deserved.
These are excellent points sir!!! Truth be told I hated Barry growing up. Now that I’ve learned so much of what was really going on (the owners knew they were doing roids and never stopped it cuz it was necessary to “save baseball”) I 100% back him for the Hall. He’s the best hitter of all time and it’s not even close!!
I absolutely agree, I was in my early 20's when it all unfolded. I always stuck behind those players, cause they saved baseball. The strike in 94 sucked, and the EXPOS had a chance to win it all. Gwynn was on the verge to hit .400 so many good things were happening in 94 and then the strike came.
1994 was crazy.
Matt Williams was on pace to hit 61hr with 43hr in 115 games. And there were several guys right behind him including Junior.
Knoblauch, Biggio and Walker had 45/44/44 doubles and one of them could have broken the doubles record.
For anyone who only knows Greg Maddux from the garbage card he gets in MLBTS, check the 1994 stats. 16-6 with a 1.56 era. Had a shot at the best season since dead ball era. Followed up next year with 19-2 1.63 era .811 WHIP.
It was crazy, So many players on the verge of breaking records.
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I played in the Dodgers organization for a few years released in 2018, I got to see Trout from the bullpen during spring training.. He is unreal... Pitched against Tatis Jr, Vlad Jr, Bichette, Jo Adell all studs. I had Vlad 1 ball 2 strikes and tried to get a fastball in by him. I threw it at 94 and he hit a double an inch down the left field line with a 114 mph exit velo. His swing through the zone sounded like a lightsaber one of the moments I will always remember haha
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As much as I hate his guys, statistically speaking, the answer is Barry Bonds, both as a Pirate and a Giant.
Ignoring Bonds, I would say Ken Griffey Jr., but by the time he got to Cincinnati, he was a shell of his former self. I may have to go with Tony Gwynn, at least in the early 90s he was still great. Saw Glavine and Smoltz, but never got to see Maddux or the big unit live.
Best game I went to, well most memorable, I was at the brawl between the Reds and Cardinals, where Molina and Phillips had words at the plate right in the bottom of the first, Cueto kicked LaRue I believe. Quite a nasty site as bad as anything I have ever seen at a hockey game.
Shoot. I forgot about Barry. I sat in the right field seats on opening day at dodger stadium one year and the guy must have hit the ball a good 20 rows behind me. It was unbelievable.
Such a shame. As much as I dislike him, Barry was great before ever touching a needle. The talent was unquestionable. But the jealousy bug got him, he just couldn’t stand seeing players he considered inferior surpassing him (McGwire). That season where he hit .370 and a ton of home runs was amazing, not for the counting stats but because he walked almost every at bat, rarely swung, but when he did it was “perfect/perfect”. That isn’t just roids.
.370 46 hr 110 rbi. 47 strikeouts. 198 BB!!!
He just made the perfect villain though, especially if you’re a dodger fan. He was incredibly good, he didn’t hesitate to tell you how good he was, he was a cheater, he broke several sacred records, and did I mention that he was really good. The crazy thing is I believe he could’ve have done all of it without the steroids. Unfortunately we’ll never know. But it was still amazing to see what the guy could do on a baseball field.
The thing with Barry though is that he’s just as much a victim as he is a villain. Barry Bonds was Mike Trout before anyone even looked at WAR. He was a victim of being under appreciated and his talent was evaluated differently in the era he played. Counting stats were what got the attention. If Bonds had been evaluated then in the way we view Trout now, the narrative around him would be different and perhaps he never would’ve sought the attention he craved because his greatness would’ve been appreciated and recognized at the time.
He may not have been the most likeable personality, but his prickly relationship with the media also stemmed from his frustrations in his lack of recognition as the best player in the game. In 1996, Barry put up a 40/40 season worth 9.7 WAR and finished 5th in the NL MVP vote. Two years later, Sammy Sosa won the NL MVP with 66hrs and a 6.5 WAR. That same season, Mark McGwire hit 70hrs and posted a 7.5 WAR, finishing 2nd in NL MVP voting. Barry Bonds that season? His 37hrs were barely half as many as McGwire’s. Barry finished 8th in NL MVP voting despite posting an NL best 8.1 WAR for position players. They were different times and different metrics were used to measure these guys.
I’m not a live or die by WAR kind of guy, but it’s so easy to see how under appreciated he was in his time, and easy to see how it could motivate him to do what he thought was necessary to receive the recognition he thought he deserved.
These are excellent points sir!!! Truth be told I hated Barry growing up. Now that I’ve learned so much of what was really going on (the owners knew they were doing roids and never stopped it cuz it was necessary to “save baseball”) I 100% back him for the Hall. He’s the best hitter of all time and it’s not even close!!
I absolutely agree, I was in my early 20's when it all unfolded. I always stuck behind those players, cause they saved baseball. The strike in 94 sucked, and the EXPOS had a chance to win it all. Gwynn was on the verge to hit .400 so many good things were happening in 94 and then the strike came.
1994 was crazy.
Matt Williams was on pace to hit 61hr with 43hr in 115 games. And there were several guys right behind him including Junior.
Knoblauch, Biggio and Walker had 45/44/44 doubles and one of them could have broken the doubles record.
For anyone who only knows Greg Maddux from the garbage card he gets in MLBTS, check the 1994 stats. 16-6 with a 1.56 era. Had a shot at the best season since dead ball era. Followed up next year with 19-2 1.63 era .811 WHIP.
It was crazy, So many players on the verge of breaking records.
Plus the expos were 74-40 on pace for 115 plus wins. In my opinion I think that may have been one of the best teams ever assembled and after the strike they lost a lot of good players.
Walker - Colorado
Grissom - Atlanta
Wettland - New York Yankees
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As much as I hate his guys, statistically speaking, the answer is Barry Bonds, both as a Pirate and a Giant.
Ignoring Bonds, I would say Ken Griffey Jr., but by the time he got to Cincinnati, he was a shell of his former self. I may have to go with Tony Gwynn, at least in the early 90s he was still great. Saw Glavine and Smoltz, but never got to see Maddux or the big unit live.
Best game I went to, well most memorable, I was at the brawl between the Reds and Cardinals, where Molina and Phillips had words at the plate right in the bottom of the first, Cueto kicked LaRue I believe. Quite a nasty site as bad as anything I have ever seen at a hockey game.
Shoot. I forgot about Barry. I sat in the right field seats on opening day at dodger stadium one year and the guy must have hit the ball a good 20 rows behind me. It was unbelievable.
Such a shame. As much as I dislike him, Barry was great before ever touching a needle. The talent was unquestionable. But the jealousy bug got him, he just couldn’t stand seeing players he considered inferior surpassing him (McGwire). That season where he hit .370 and a ton of home runs was amazing, not for the counting stats but because he walked almost every at bat, rarely swung, but when he did it was “perfect/perfect”. That isn’t just roids.
.370 46 hr 110 rbi. 47 strikeouts. 198 BB!!!
He just made the perfect villain though, especially if you’re a dodger fan. He was incredibly good, he didn’t hesitate to tell you how good he was, he was a cheater, he broke several sacred records, and did I mention that he was really good. The crazy thing is I believe he could’ve have done all of it without the steroids. Unfortunately we’ll never know. But it was still amazing to see what the guy could do on a baseball field.
The thing with Barry though is that he’s just as much a victim as he is a villain. Barry Bonds was Mike Trout before anyone even looked at WAR. He was a victim of being under appreciated and his talent was evaluated differently in the era he played. Counting stats were what got the attention. If Bonds had been evaluated then in the way we view Trout now, the narrative around him would be different and perhaps he never would’ve sought the attention he craved because his greatness would’ve been appreciated and recognized at the time.
He may not have been the most likeable personality, but his prickly relationship with the media also stemmed from his frustrations in his lack of recognition as the best player in the game. In 1996, Barry put up a 40/40 season worth 9.7 WAR and finished 5th in the NL MVP vote. Two years later, Sammy Sosa won the NL MVP with 66hrs and a 6.5 WAR. That same season, Mark McGwire hit 70hrs and posted a 7.5 WAR, finishing 2nd in NL MVP voting. Barry Bonds that season? His 37hrs were barely half as many as McGwire’s. Barry finished 8th in NL MVP voting despite posting an NL best 8.1 WAR for position players. They were different times and different metrics were used to measure these guys.
I’m not a live or die by WAR kind of guy, but it’s so easy to see how under appreciated he was in his time, and easy to see how it could motivate him to do what he thought was necessary to receive the recognition he thought he deserved.
These are excellent points sir!!! Truth be told I hated Barry growing up. Now that I’ve learned so much of what was really going on (the owners knew they were doing roids and never stopped it cuz it was necessary to “save baseball”) I 100% back him for the Hall. He’s the best hitter of all time and it’s not even close!!
I absolutely agree, I was in my early 20's when it all unfolded. I always stuck behind those players, cause they saved baseball. The strike in 94 sucked, and the EXPOS had a chance to win it all. Gwynn was on the verge to hit .400 so many good things were happening in 94 and then the strike came.
1994 was crazy.
Matt Williams was on pace to hit 61hr with 43hr in 115 games. And there were several guys right behind him including Junior.
Knoblauch, Biggio and Walker had 45/44/44 doubles and one of them could have broken the doubles record.
For anyone who only knows Greg Maddux from the garbage card he gets in MLBTS, check the 1994 stats. 16-6 with a 1.56 era. Had a shot at the best season since dead ball era. Followed up next year with 19-2 1.63 era .811 WHIP.
It was crazy, So many players on the verge of breaking records.
Plus the expos were 74-40 on pace for 115 plus wins. In my opinion I think that may have been one of the best teams ever assembled and after the strike they lost a lot of good players.
Walker - Colorado
Grissom - Atlanta
Wettland - New York Yankees
Ken Hill - St LouisI agree but the team with Dawson and Carter in early 80's that was a good EXPOS team to.
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The problem with the Montreal Expis was that in the 80s they had to face the Pirates who had an amazing team. When the Expos started getting better and we’re on the verge of beating the Pirates, then there was a re-organization of the league and divisions and we got to face the Atlanta Braves in our division with guys like Glavine, Smoltz and of course Maddux. We never had it easy!
I remember the year of the strike in 1994 when the Expos were hosting the Atlanta Braves and we won that game to take over first place. I swear to God, I thought the Olympic stadium was going to implode.
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Game 2 1999 world series, all century team was on field, first time Pete Rose had been back in a ball park. To see all those legends together, outstanding
I remember Jim Gray interviewing Pete Rose on the field after the all-century team ceremony. He more or less ambushed Rose about when he’d finally admit he gambled while serving as manager. Rose was justifiable upset to have his moment ruined.
If I recall correctly, Gray went to interview one of the players post-game and the player said that out of respect for Rose, the players had all agreed not to grant Gray any interviews.
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I mean obviously the best player I’ve seen live is Miguel Cabrera hundreds of time and I’m thankful for that. Best game I’ve been to sitting behind home plate during Armando Galarraga’ Imperfect perfect game. JIM JOYCE BLEW IT. I was in middle school or freshman in high school and wrote a letter to Bud Selig to get him to reverse the call. (He never responded)
I am a die hard cubs fan and when i visited my bro in boston we saw the tigers a few years back and watching miggy just show that effortless power and oppo power was just nuts. Believe he had three extra base hits and two were off the wall in right field.
Will never forget that swing live!I always say he’s the greatest pure hitter alive (in his prime) and I think the only person that people could argue that against is Albert Pujols in their prime. I would be really curious as to how many homers Miggy would be at if he didn’t play his entire career in two of the biggest ball parks in the league (old Miami, Comerica).
As a tiger fan I hate that we didn’t get a ring with him and it sucks seeing him be plagued by injuries the last 3 seasons. He looked really good in spring training this year and was hitting the ball hard.
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Best player I got to see was Randy Johnson. Best game ever was a Dbacks vs Cardinals game in St. Louis when Miguel Batista hit Tino Martinez and Tino charged the mound and caused a bench clearing brawl. Also Matt Mantei froze Pujols with a curveball to end the game and pick up the save. Mantei’s curve was nasty
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Without a ton of thought, the best player I saw was Tom Seaver with the White Sox, granted he was past his prime, but also a handful of others. Pedro, Dwight Gooden, Sandberg, etc.
Best game had to be Carlos Gonzalez beat my Cubs with a homer to hit for the cycle in a walk off. That was featured in an MLB intro, I forget the year, plus in the intro you can see me in Cubs jersey and I remember throwing my beer down as the crowd went crazy.
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I'm not saying Bonds didn't have a good eye. But I think too much is made of his BBs as not being a credit to steroids. Because he was juiced up pitchers were afraid to throw him strikes, obviously he lead the league with intentional BBs, buy you do know that you can be pitched around without it counting as an intentional walk. Go watch some of those ABs guys on this forum can easily lay off those pitches. Again not saying he was undisciplined, but you can not say that the roids had nothing to do with his high walk rate.
https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/rickey-henderson-passes-babe-ruth-walk-record.html
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Bottom 9th, 2 out bases loaded. Mariners down by 3. They pulled Sexton for a pinch hitter and the whole stadium was booing. The kid hit a grand slam to win it. Was the coolest sports moment I have attended.....next to Canada winning the Gold medal in Vancouver
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Definitely Trout..
Had tickets to Jered Weavers no hitter in 2012!
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Bottom 9th, 2 out bases loaded. Mariners down by 3. They pulled Sexton for a pinch hitter and the whole stadium was booing. The kid hit a grand slam to win it. Was the coolest sports moment I have attended.....next to Canada winning the Gold medal in Vancouver
Sexson was a beast. I wish we could get a card for him.
That gold medal game was incredible. Next to the Cubs winning the world series I think thats the second best sport moment of my lifetime. I actualy watched that from downtown Vancouver.
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Prime Bo Jackson was the most talented and physically impressive player I've ever seen play. Bo or prime Rickey Henderson. It's a coin flip for me.
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I saw the first game Pedro pitches at Fenway as a member of the Redsox. And the day before I was in Boston when the Redsox rallied from down 7-2 to walkoff on a Mo Vaughn Grand Slam. Pretty special 24 hours of baseball
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I'm not saying Bonds didn't have a good eye. But I think too much is made of his BBs as not being a credit to steroids. Because he was juiced up pitchers were afraid to throw him strikes, obviously he lead the league with intentional BBs, buy you do know that you can be pitched around without it counting as an intentional walk. Go watch some of those ABs guys on this forum can easily lay off those pitches. Again not saying he was undisciplined, but you can not say that the roids had nothing to do with his high walk rate.
https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/rickey-henderson-passes-babe-ruth-walk-record.html
Read this article. Barry’s walk record is impressive, but I think Rickey passing the Babe is even more impressive!!I agree, when Bonds was hitting 70, he wasn't the real threat on the bases, only stole 13, so all those years there was no real reason to pitch to him all juiced up. How many of those BBs were the intentional unintentional walk. Ruth was even less of a threat on the bases, so again same deal. But Rickey, the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is walk Rickey, that's like just giving him 2B. So I agree, and I agree before reading the article. Like I said, I'm not saying Bonds didn't have a good eye, what I am saying is that you cant say him being on roids wasnt a huge part of why he had so many BBs. As someone who grew up watch both, I will always like Rickey way more than Bonds
I didnt like him long before he got to SF. To go an extra step to tell you my feelings about the guy, I have been a fan of just about every athlete named Barry. Sanders, Larkin, Word, Foster, etc. Growing up with that name was not cool, I was called Barry Manilow all the time, but when these guys broke out it made the name a lot better. So even having the same first name, t couldn't stand him. He was one of the biggest jerks I had ever seen in any sport, and then he added to it by being a cheater too. I hope he never makes the HOF. -
Best game was September 27th 1999 Orioles VS. Red Sox, and Pedro has a stat line of 8 IP, 6 H, 2 r, 1 er, 0 bb, 12 k, to go 23 - 4 and 312 k's on the year.
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This will be interesting
I once saw trout and pujols go back to back off cc sabathia
