All Time Teams Program - Greg Maddux and 5 Other Legends
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@dolenz_psn I completely agree.
This was my biggest issue with Beltran. Last year he was the live series collection and this year he was a legend/flashback collection for his top card. In years past (2019-2022) SDS did a very good job of mixing things up where a difficult card to obtain one year was much easier to obtain the next. There were Chipper Jones and Ken Griffey Jr cards that were limited one year then in smaller programs or inning bosses or team affinity the next.
I wish they would go back to doing a better job of mixing rewards. -
Well, this kind of negates my thought that the rewards would be division based. Two NL East cards so far.
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These are my last thoughts on this subject. It’s pretty obvious that a lot of the streamers and their followers are not the most agreeable people. With that I agree, but to say that they think everything is ridiculous, to me is kind of a dismissive and sweeping statement. You’re not curious what the best players of the game think about a very challenging program? Well, I am and I think it makes perfect sense to feel that way. Also, I agree that this is definitely the perfect time for SDS to experiment. But, in my opinion, to refer to the rewarding of a cosmetic only variant of a card as a reward for the most challenging program of the year is genius is something with which I just can’t agree. Also, it’s very noble to take on a challenge for the thrill of simply accomplishing it and I commend anyone who feels that way but this reminds me of my best friend from childhood who when we both still had dreams of being baseball players said Rickey, if I ever made it to the Major Leagues, I would play for nothing because I love the game so much. Well, that was 50 years ago and right before the advent of Free Agency. Do you see many players playing for free nowadays? This is the good ole USA, the land of baseball, apple pie and Capitalism. I, personally, want to be rewarded for my hard work…ahem, play. You know it just dawned on me we’re talking about a video game so I’ll wrap it up now. Anyway, good luck and in full disclosure, I did acquire 7 of the 13 Spooky Variants so I’m something of a hypocrite. Thanks, Rick
I respect your take, Rick. I get why you'd want more than a cosmetic for finishing the hardest program of the year.
There are a few streamers I still enjoy. I ended up unfollowing almost everyone because it felt like the vast majority were looking for a reason to be mad. SDS can do something genuinely good and these guys, who built their whole audience playing SDS's game, will act like the studio just committed a crime.
And they're babies about any pushback. You can disagree as respectfully as possible and they'll still call you a bootlicker, throw slurs at you, or block you. It's weird. You're the bad guy for having a different opinion, and SDS is the bad guy anytime they don't get exactly what they want. SDS could make the best change this game's ever seen and it feels like 95% of the community would still find something to nitpick... due to the negativity passed down by the content creators.
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I love Chase Utley cards that's gonna be a good card. Dang, that card art on the extreme version looks so much better than the base. I may have to eat crow a little bit, where's the ketchup?
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I swear the one guy in the new Utley signature card is stupid because he says that Maddux and Utley are gonna be captains but no where does it say that either card is a Captain
LOL and then he calls someone else dumb for pointing out that nowhere in the post does it mention captain.
He apparently has no idea how many other team captains have also had 99 OVR cards issued who were not captains.
At times I do want to reply to these folks but my X account got hacked and then shutdown. I made one attempt to send in a report to try and get it back but they just reiterated that I broke some rule (does anyone here believe that?) and denied me.
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If there was one player per team, Chase Utley would make sense for this program. He is the best Phil's 2B of all time
But if we are only doing 6 players why is a guy like Utley one of those 6? I would expect this to be MLB elite players.
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@DrBear100_PSN
Yeah, At least the extreme signature card art is more distinguishable than the awards Maddox, for example -
They are really testing out these variants this year for next years game for sure. A better use of a variant is have variant card on another team. Such as Maddux for the Cubs. Then people would be a little less upset because they can’t complain that their favorite player didn’t get a 99 this year
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When it comes to Extreme - there are two groups on different sides of the planet. Is it extreme to have to beat a good CPU team on legend? Is it extreme to have to beat cpu five times in a row on legend? I'm far from an elite player (and on the wrong side of 40), but both of those things are fairly easy for me, and a pretty boring challenge. On the flip side, we've got people who play on Veteran and can't do Showdowns.
There's no reconciling those two groups, y'all. How in blazes do you design a challenge that satisfies those two groups?
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The answer is to release it earlier and have some grindier ways to get it. Last year's was released too late for the repeatable goal to be feasible.
Why not have missions like get 100 hits with Jolt Utley? Then hit 30 HR with the Utley you get in the program? Steal 60 bases with any Elly De La Cruz. etc . Some people hate those type of missions, but as an alternative to hitting for the cycle in a moment it seems fine to me.
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When it comes to Extreme - there are two groups on different sides of the planet. Is it extreme to have to beat a good CPU team on legend? Is it extreme to have to beat cpu five times in a row on legend? I'm far from an elite player (and on the wrong side of 40), but both of those things are fairly easy for me, and a pretty boring challenge. On the flip side, we've got people who play on Veteran and can't do Showdowns.
There's no reconciling those two groups, y'all. How in blazes do you design a challenge that satisfies those two groups?
This is why, while I don't like the variants personally, I think this was a great way to do it. I do enjoy doing the Extreme showdowns & Extreme conquest. For me it's satisfying enough while not being extremely easy or extremely difficult. Constantly beating up the CPU on Veteran is where I get a little bored (though I do it anyway if I'm super tired but want to play).
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By The way, the leaks, if you want to believe them, are:
Maddux
Utley
Nolan Ryan
Joe Mauer
Lou Gehrig
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It’s crazy they pay for the rights to these players and don’t have 99’s.
Lou Gehrig
Willie Stargell
Bob Feller
Satchel Paige
Roger Clemens
Nolan Ryan
Hank AaronAgain, SDS should be ashamed of themselves. Creativity is GONE. What are we doing here?!?!?
Goose gossage
Eric Gagne
Lee smith
Al Leiter
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@rubicante23_PSN
You’re confusing “don’t like” with “can’t do.”
It would be absurd if I or someone else posted “some of these online players can’t do conquest maps.” -
@rubicante23_PSN
You’re confusing “don’t like” with “can’t do.”
It would be absurd if I or someone else posted “some of these online players can’t do conquest maps.”Conquest maps anyone can do, but unfortunately Showdowns... there's a small % of folks that can't actually do them.
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I understand that. But a lot of us just don’t like showdowns. One reason I don’t like showdowns is that stats and PXP don’t count for missions on programs, parallels, team affinity, etc
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I understand that. But a lot of us just don’t like showdowns. One reason I don’t like showdowns is that stats and PXP don’t count for missions on programs, parallels, team affinity, etc
Yeah I don't like showdowns either, but I do enjoy the Extreme ones. I'm above average though. There are certainly less skilled folks who can't beat them. I know this because when I first started playing this game, I was one of those people.
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Dolenz_PSN
Yes, hopefully a 99 Lou Gehrig.
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Todays reveal is (the leak I posted above was right on this one)
One of the first comments on Facebook said that SDS was scraping the bottom of the barrel. Now, this card does not entice me but I wonder how a Hall of Famer with an MVP award and a .306 lifetime average is bottom of the barrel? These kind of statements is why I don't always trust "the fans".
Wonder what complaints we will get about Gehrig?
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You'll get zero complains from me about Gehrig. I always hit better with him than any other first basemen. Wish SDS didn't wait until November to release his card.
