SDS Partner kdjTV's take on today's Finest Drop
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It will also be interesting to see if the supply gets low for good exchange candidates and how much they inflate when everyone decides that they have to have that final collection reward.
Live series supply is very high, I don't think there will be any big inflation.
Even early in the year when everyone was trying to do LS collection 85s hit quick sell in the first week.
The pack card rare rounds will be the ones that end up being expensive
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I agree with the aspect that there has been no precedent set so that we think to ourselves "I should save all of my duplicate live series diamonds".
How many Tyler Glasnow's have been pulled and sold for their quick sell value because stubs have always been more important than exchanges when it comes to getting cards.
My hope is that no team has their only Finest card locked behind this nonsense
My concern is will the exchange cards be needed for ANY Collection.
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I agree with the aspect that there has been no precedent set so that we think to ourselves "I should save all of my duplicate live series diamonds".
How many Tyler Glasnow's have been pulled and sold for their quick sell value because stubs have always been more important than exchanges when it comes to getting cards.
My hope is that no team has their only Finest card locked behind this nonsense
My concern is will the exchange cards be needed for ANY Collection.
They might be, and like I said above, this is ~ how much it'll cost to get the exchange cards. This value is actually dropping a bit now, as some of the 85s are getting closer to QS. I ran this assuming 3,333 per card.
- Wood (500k): 25 cards, about 83,325 stubs
- Turang (400k): 20 cards, about 66,660 stubs
- Diaz (300k): 15 cards, about 49,995 stubs
- Messick (200k): 10 cards, about 33,330 stubs
While I don't like this exchange strategy, let's not overreact. These aren't expensive cards, and are cheaper than some of the weekly Spotlight cards that were needed for collections. It's just a different format (albeit an annoying one), so people are going a bit crazy.
Also, what people aren't taking into account... the demand for the LS cards is going up and there are pretty huge gaps between buy and sell prices. While people complained, I passively flipped for 200K profit (even while getting "account restricted" notifications every 10 orders).
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I got Messick and Diaz through the exchanges. Funny thing is Glasnow and Yamamoto were the (not so) secret weapons here.
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I got Messick and Diaz through the exchanges. Funny thing is Glasnow and Yamamoto were the (not so) secret weapons here.
I was just thinking that when I did the exchange for Messick (only guy I really wanted). I guess Thing 1 and Thing 2 come in handy now.
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Maybe this was just a way to make us happy whenever we pulled Yamamoto/Glasgnow from a vault pack! So now we magically cheer instead of say “ugh!” when we pull that now!
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You can look at the Chase packs they dropped Monday in the same light. Did they really drop those to help people get the collection done? Looking more like they did it to kill the value of everyone’s binder before dropping Finest where there are 10 cards that cost 100-200k.
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Wait till they ban you for trying to buy the cards, lol.
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I’m kind of hoping I can finish the collection without worrying about these BS overly priced Finest cards.
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I actually think the idea was kind of brilliant.
They know nobody saves diamond dupes. They know every Vault pack has a Tyler Glasnow. This is a way to make you collect live cards again.
Now, it doesnt really work cause lots of people have a million+ stubs...so they'll just buy the Live.
Can you imagine if you couldnt buy Live Series to do this - if you had to pack them? (Will never happen, I know). All the Day One people would lose their mind - the people who cant do a grind as intended, but must get all stuff Day One.
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How can you call getting that many live series diamonds to exchange a grind? Yes, “day one” people need to chill, but this is a weird move in November. It’s only brilliant in a devious way. -
@markemark_NSW Easy solution - make the cards sellable.
If you don't feel like buying 70 Max Frieds, let someone else do it and then buy the card from them off the market. -
I will never be incentivized to play by the loop that is essentially
Play modes
Earn packs
Pray you get lucky
Repeat until you can buy the card you actually want or earn enough Live series diamonds for these exchanges.I do have about 200K in stubs but I am not spending that because I have a feeling that if they release a 99 Ted Simmons or Lou Brock that they will be in a pack and I will need those stubs. Or maybe even if we get our Cardinal Finest in a pack instead of a program.
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As has been stated, the devious part comes from this never being a thing before. I’d also add that this is the same year on which they added a card cap and nuked Team Affinity as well so we lose out on any of those Finest captains. Put the two together and it’s not a good look at all. Are the cards themselves worth it? That remains to be seen as we don’t have the full collection out or know how many we can skip. I’m not really sure why they make the decisions they do this year, but if you feel frustrated about it then speak with your wallet next year by avoiding 27.
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As has been stated, the devious part comes from this never being a thing before.
I think its quite possible that this came about because everyone complains about pulling Hunter Greene or Glasnow
So now SDS is saying 'hey, here is something to do with these cards you hate getting'
Also keep in mind 2K this year has an exchange system that is massively popular and has people claiming its the best iteration of myteam in years, that could be an inspiration too.
I don't think this was done with the ill intent everyone claims. I think was simply them trying something different in response to the complaints about getting dupes, much like the spooky variants.
This is the time of year to tinker with stuff. Easy answer is if you don't like it, dont engage in it. If no one does these exchanges then they wont be back next year, and the final collection will likely let you skip Finest anyway.
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As has been stated, the devious part comes from this never being a thing before.
I think its quite possible that this came about because everyone complains about pulling Hunter Greene or Glasnow
So now SDS is saying 'hey, here is something to do with these cards you hate getting'
Also keep in mind 2K this year has an exchange system that is massively popular and has people claiming its the best iteration of myteam in years, that could be an inspiration too.
I don't think this was done with the ill intent everyone claims. I think was simply them trying something different in response to the complaints about getting dupes, much like the spooky variants.
This is the time of year to tinker with stuff. Easy answer is if you don't like it, dont engage in it. If no one does these exchanges then they wont be back next year, and the final collection will likely let you skip Finest anyway.
I think the easiest way to solve the Glasnow issue in Vault packs and others is to make the odds of pulling something worthwhile better. In saying giving us something to now to do with Glasnows and others would be a lame excuse for these exchanges.
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Can definitely agree on this being the time to tinker. I just think the steps they took with live series this whole year were maybe misguided (that's just my opinion though). Perhaps if this wasn't the same year they placed card caps it would be easier for me to get behind. I did like that they tried exchanges earlier this year with Robin Yount and I think it was an Austin Wells WBC card this year. Those did include every live card though, maybe they could have repeated that and just adjusted how much each of those cards points were towards the redemption.
Glad for your response, since my initial reaction to this was probably just that, overreactive. I already did claim them as exchanges since I had bought a ton of 89+ diamonds when they were at quicksell, then naturally forgot about them. It does make the Vault packs better and we are likely going to get 10 of those in the coming content this Friday. Thanks again for the response!
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Can definitely agree on this being the time to tinker. I just think the steps they took with live series this whole year were maybe misguided (that's just my opinion though).
I'm certainly not in love with the final product this year, I've played half as much as last year and last year was a drop off from prior. The way they have treated TA has a lot to do with it, as does all the spotlight and deluxe packs.
If I recall, Yount exchange needed 83+...it did allow non live series but it also didn't let us dump our silvers and bronzes.
The old TA style worked well, where people could dump their junk in exchanges to get quick progress.
