How is the Community Market feeling (8)
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@manu__sds_mlbts I think for next year you should do random email verification multiple times a day while using the app. Appreciate your communication and what your trying to do.
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@DEF266_PSN I like that idea. But instead of just doing a verification only by email, maybe do verification via google authentication too.
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Bot currently active on Ryan Braun card. Instantly outbidding by 2 stubs on a buy order.
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There’s bots active on everything with the potential for profit. Some are more aggressive than others. I’ve had bids sitting for a few days now that aren’t getting filled. There’s stub transferring going on with multiple cards and past event reward cards have been made impossible to get unless paying 30k more then they should be. Bots are instantly outbidding to buy all inventory on market and anything listed below the price they’ve set is instantly bought up and added to their overpriced inventory. It’s total market manipulation. See egg series Colson Montgomery, negro league biz markey, vintage gleybor torez, mural mike moustakous.
It does not feel like there are less bots since last weeks update. If anything, the bots have a stronger influence over the price that items are at and keeping sell prices artificially high. I don’t know what this last update entails but there was mention of it being a long and bumpy process. Now that everyone has seamlessly updated the app and the new sign in process, etc seems to be working without issue - maybe the squeezing the bots out of the marketplace phase can begin. -
Is there anyone that pays close attention to the market that tried to invest over the weekend that can provide feedback about the market? Does buying and selling feel “fair”? Do you feel like you are on an even playing field versus other humans? Do you feel like you can succeed in the market if you tried? Do you think there are bots? Some bots? Lots of bots? Do you know there how? Are there predictable patterns? Do you feel safe or protected using stubs in the marketplace? Do you resent having to spend any amount of stubs on anything because there’s no trust or integrity in the marketplace? Is it possible it’s just me and thousands of bots left I’m using the market?
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I would say I pay very close attention to the market, so I will try to answer your questions/observations to the best I can. Feel free to reach out/DM (if that's an option here, or on discord) if any of my answers need more explaining.
Event cards have typically gone up on weeks where the event rewind isn't a reward. It's been one of my better ways of making stubs, buying the dip at 12-15k then selling for 25-35k. This one is higher because this event lasted 10 days instead of 4 days or a week, the last event rewind pack being 3 weeks ago, and the legend collection coming up. Egg series Montgomery and then Biz Mackey I would expect to be higher than the Vintage and Mural ones listed, since you have to have every Egg Series card for Beltran/New Legend and then the negro league baseball series the number required for each legend has increased. Plus with Events, less people are playing multiplayer modes, so for offline players/people who don't play events there are less of those cards available to them.
To your other questions, I have made nearly 250k this week flipping, so would be interested in which cards you've specifically been targeting, since I would say it's been successful for the cards I'm targeting. Yes, there are still bots active, they just aren't doing the 300+ orders anymore to make it obvious. I know you mentioned the bots now moving to doing the orders by every 30 seconds in another thread, and I agree with that and have seen it on cards as well. I called out the Postseason Victor Martinez as being a stub transfer card yesterday (I know there are more, but that one I easily noticed) so you are right again on that. I have never spent money on stubs, and have built myself a great nest egg of stubs spread between roster updates, flipping, and holding onto cards, so it’s been fair in that I’m making stubs in multiple ways. To answer your 'resentment', personally I would only say I hate headliners and chase packs being so bloated, so when I buy those cards those are the only ones I hate the market for, but chase cards have been inflated for the last few years so am trying to get used to it. Maybe I have just accepted the market for how it is, since it's kind of just been inflating each year since '24, but I've definitely noticed patterns the last few years on which cards or series are safe investments and ones to avoid because of volatility.
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To add to that, I do silver to gold exchange packs. It's pretty profitable that is how I managed to get all four major collections completed. I also do some passive flipping on targeted cards that move quickly so I don't tie up stubs. I also have done investments for the first time ever, the last two roster updates I made 215k stubs on the one before and just under 200k on this one. I am trying my hand at investing this upcoming collections, I bought a lot of former WC cards when they were lower and few other lower risk cards that historically have done well just before a big collection drop to see if they pan out. I may skip out on this collection if it's a pitcher, since I don't play multi-player. It's not all that important to me to have a meta pitcher playing offline DD. I skipped out on John Donaldson last year and just went after position players I wanted.
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Howdy and Happy Sunday!
I have now tighten up the rules and we should probably see a significant impact...
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Indeed, seems better
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Much better!
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Glad to see someone working on this and providing updates, kinda wish this was more of a thing Months ago but, is what it is. But this is one of the single worst things about this game this year for sure. Hopefully for 27 we can use the market without bots, or at least no so many.
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These actions have renewed by confidence for MLB The Show 27
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Looks like the Brice Turang WBC card (earned through event rewind packs) was active earlier today for stub swapping/selling. So September 14th from 10:45AM PDT to 10:56AM PDT is where I'm seeing nearly 100 orders completed in a small window. Also seems to have been active late last night. Hope this information helps so you can keep banning these bozos purposefully and willfully breaking ToS. Is this the best place to report these types of issues Manu? Or should I be doing tickets.
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Howdy and Happy Sunday!
I have now tighten up the rules and we should probably see a significant impact...
I have no complaints since whatever was tightened up Sunday. I won’t be shy to mention anything that sticks out to me as abnormal
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS market seems great to me, but how often should we be getting these market verification requests? At first when I would get them, it would tell me I would have to verify again in 24 hours. Yesterday and today that's gone down to every 6 hours. Is this normal? Or have I done something to trigger more intense scrutiny?
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@FokkenXCross_NSW Good news, it's not you! Parameters change, and I'm trying to find a good spot...
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@Manu__SDS_MLBTS thank you Manu! I just wanted to make sure I hadn't done something to make the system suspicious. I honestly don't mind this verification system at all, and it seems to be working from my limited experience.
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I am receiving a notification that reads “Your account has been restricted” when attempting to buy/sell/cancel an order on the companion app only. Although, I can utilize the marketplace via my console. I have submitted tickets, and followed up more than once. Disappointingly, I haven’t even been acknowledged in return. I have logged out/in, no luck. I have deleted the app, then redownloaded, no luck. This issue began 09/13/2026 around 7pm EST. So, it has been almost 48 hours ignored. Any insight?
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@DEF266_PSN I like that idea. But instead of just doing a verification only by email, maybe do verification via google authentication too.
Along with console login should be a part of verification. Gameplay vs app use with buys and sells should be looked at as well.
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@manu__sds_mlbts you are a genius. You have been working diligently on this all year, and adding verification once or twice a day has been incredible. It is a super minor inconvenience that takes a few seconds - easy cheese.
Right now, it looks like the bots are gone. I also tested flipping cards the way I normally would and have not hit any stalls, aside from one or two 20-second cooldowns, which are totally fine.
If things stay as they are, this is THE W of the year. Amazing work!
