Has there ever been a time?
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@GoozeFn_PSN ok prove it to us. That packs are completely random? That there is no pre determination involved with them whatsoever. Prove that when you open a pack its completely out of the games hands and in the hands of odds only aka random.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN fair enough. I cant answer that. It can happen still even with pre determined odds.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN They can’t figure out how to make a third of inning count. They can’t figure out how to fix any of these bugs, shrinkage, dread lag and all the problems with the game. They can’t figure out how to stop cheaters and bots, but they have some elaborate system that picks and chooses who gets what? Does that really make any sense to anyone else?
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@whitejw98_MLBTS I completely disagree with you. Its way worse now. All you have to do is go to the Google reviews to see the difference of ratings the last two years compared to previous years. Ok dude we know you are a company man based on your comments. You are incorrect. You are a corporate man. Probably work for Target if i had to guess.
This forum is filled with complainers and tin foil hat conspiracy theorists every single year.
Every year is the worst game ever made according to this place, its not any different this year.
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@GoozeFn_PSN when it comes to their profit, they have never had a hardship time figuring it out brother. Pack store and the stub shop always work perfectly

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@allday9128_PSN fair I was just coming to see if this year is measly getting blown out of proportion or rly is that bad.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL I already did. Save your random deluxe packs. Wait for a new program with a pack in deluxe packs. You can pull one of those packs that weren’t available when you earned that pack. If what you’re saying is true, this wouldn’t be possible.
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@GoozeFn_PSN so your saying the system cant throw in the new program packs with your saved deluxe pack? Of course it can..the system can put whatever cards it wants into any packs you have not opened yet.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL Not if it’s predetermined. Isn’t that your argument here? Or is this elaborate system they have making that predetermination instantly when you open each pack? Frankly, this is one of the worst conspiracy theories I’ve ever seen on here.
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@GoozeFn_PSN you are miss understanding me. Im not saying its necessarily pre determined as in if the cards are already in the packs. Im saying the game can give you whatever cards it determines, not based off of random odds. Im saying what we are getting is not completely random.
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@GoozeFn_PSN can we take this elaborate system and find out how to make a god [censored] anti cheat…
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL You make no sense. Again, there’s absolutely nothing to support this.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL ok that makes a bit more sense then pre determined.
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@Onix_Savage22_PSN its more to it then just pre determined. That is one aspect but yeah. The best way I can explain it is very simply. If I open a pack it should be completely random as to what I get right. No influence from the game etc. Im saying its not completely random.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL It’s not completely random. It’s random based on the posted odds.
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@GoozeFn_PSN agree to disagree, its not random based on the posted odds. Those odds give us the baseline yes. But the game is still influencing what we get, not based on randomness of those odds per player. Randomness means random. No other influences other than odds itself.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL No one has ever said they are completely random. You’re trying to argue against points no one is making. It’s all based off odds. Why would they create this elaborate program? What purpose would it serve? Who would they be deciding to give better pulls to? Why would I get chosen for such good pack luck when I haven’t bought stubs and have made millions on the market? YOU DON’T MAKE SENSE.
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@GoozeFn_PSN if you are asking me to explain their algorithms and why they do things. I cannot. All i know is its not based off random odds. There are influences in the game that determine the diamonds you get or dont get. Just like the wheel. Any time there are influences above and beyond odds. Its no longer random. Its like playing black jack at a casino we know the odds right. But the dealer decides give you certain cards within the boundary of the odds. Is that still considered random.
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@GoozeFn_PSN you are miss understanding me. Im not saying its necessarily pre determined as in if the cards are already in the packs. Im saying the game can give you whatever cards it determines, not based off of random odds. Im saying what we are getting is not completely random.
You’re mixing up two different concepts:
Pre-determined probabilities vs Pre-determined outcomes
Those are not the same thing statistically.
SDS absolutely pre-determines the probability table for packs. Every card has a weighted chance to be pulled.
What likely happens is a standard RNG system: the game rolls against those published probabilities at the moment the pack is opened, each pack opening is treated as an independent event
That means the system is not necessarily deciding beforehand what specific card you personally receive. It’s selecting from a weighted probability distribution in real time.
A weighted RNG system is not the same thing as a scripted outcome system.
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I don’t ever remember a time when it was this bad. I’d been frequenting the forums long before using my PSN in ‘21- and while there’s an ounce of truth to what @whitejw98_mlbts said in the sense that there’s a few doomers every year that would not be happy no matter what- in 14 years of playing MLBTS, stalking the forums- I’ve never seen this much vitriol. And I think it’s definitely earned.