Do card pack odds get audited by any independent regulators?
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@TripleH-4481_PSN That's a great point to bring up. Not all diamonds are created the same either. I feel there is too much of a gap between the top and lower tier of diamonds they put out there. Do they weigh certain diamond cards less and more than others? Like is pulling Ohtani less likely than pulling a Max Fried diamond?
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@aaronjw76_PSN No, I think it would just start the market gaining volume, which it sorely needs. There is no margins in the community market. All cards, the sell price is within 10% of the buy price, and people aren't even bothering to use the market anymore.
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@aaronjw76_PSN Actually, taxes generally lead to inflated prices. That tax is always taken into consideration in the Selling prices. Without the tax, a seller could sell a card for a bit less, and still see more profit.
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Absolutely there is and they openly publish the pull rates for any specific card from a pack on their website.
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@SavageSteve74_PSN That's great transparency, but again, all internal. Nothing to say those published pull rates aren't faked (I don't think they are for the record). I wouldn't put it past EA with NHL and Madden to pull shenanigans such as faking published pack pull rates.
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Whether they are audited by any independent regulators I have no idea, but the people holding them accountable for the odds are likely their lawyers. I doubt they are willing to open themselves up to lawsuits just to keep you or I from getting a couple more 85 diamond pulls. The stated odds are already a long shot as it is, so I just don't see why they would need to fudge anything to make them worse.
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Odds?
1/50 show packs have a diamond?
Now that’s just diamonds, not 90+ live series which we are really after. I’d say 1-50 is about right.Ballin is supposed to be 1 in 5, which I don’t think that’s even close. I’d say 1-5 I get double golds. It’s like 1-25 I get a diamond.
Chase Packs should be a diamond100% all the time and they are not. Getting a gold in chase packs is infuriating. That needs fixed.
Do these odds should familiar to everyone?
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@Pergo_MLBTS I would imagine you are correct. If word ever got out about fake pack odds, that would open the game studio open to a lawsuit for damages equal to all packs purchased.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS I got three diamonds, including JRam in my loot from beating NT mini seasons last night. It can happen, it just is rare (as it should be).
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@NWOStunna_PSN it is fixed after chase pack 1.
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Yes, for sure. Ohtani and Judge were listed odds of 1/12,500. So that percentage is waaaayyy lower than pulling 85 Max Fried. Lower diamonds have much higher pull rates which is how the 1:50 odds is technically correct but not player friendly.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN That right there is the crux of my issue then. Not all diamond cards are created equally. It would be like entering a raffle to win a new car. Sure, you might have 1 in 10,000 chance of winning a car, but let's say there are 100 cars getting raffled off. Of those 100 cars, 99 of them are Geo Metros, while the other 1 car is a Mercedes S-Class. Sure, both are cars, but not the same calibre.
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Yep and I bet most people don’t realize that. It’s in the fine print but people think they have the same odds to pull all diamonds when that isn’t close to the case.
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Just so everyone can learn something. 50-1 odds in NO WAY means that out of 50 packs you are guaranteed a diamond pull. What odds mean is that for EVERY 1 pack it contains a 50-1 chance that it contains a diamond pulls. It is still a chance and luck factor, and why it is possible to both go WAY over the odds in not pulling a diamond and then also pull 5 diamonds in 10 packs. Odds are not a guarantee, so please stop acting like it is fraud when it is just luck. What better odds get more packs by grinding
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It could also mean 80-1 today, 50-1 tomorrow, 20-1 the next day---just average out over a period of time. There's no way of doing anything but speculating. What I can say is that, even when the odd rates stay the same, I get better pulls as the games progress toward the end of each cycle.
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They should do a grief system like the gacha games do - where you’re guaranteed 1:50 if you don’t get one naturally.
I think that’s where some confusion lies is some people read the odds as gacha games do.
Which is part of all of these companies’ cash grab is to expect parents to teach odds to gacha gamers and sometimes the gacha gamers are the parents themselves playing candy crush for more playtime.
So then you just have a legion of idiots you hope procreate - and then make bank.
Idiocracy did it well with “Ow, My Balls!” We’re just now entering the mid stage of that era.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN
The odds for each pack only include players, and you can see the true odds of pulling every single card possible out of a pack in the marketplace -
@TripleH-4481_PSN That's where they get you then. I personally think it's a bit misleading, and all cards in a category should be equal odds for getting pulled.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL Thanks, I know how statistics work. I have a masters degree in engineering and maths were of course a major component of my program. Sure, in one sample of 50 pack pulls, indeed, a diamond may not be pulled. However, when we are looking at 50,000 packs, statistically, there should be between 950 and 1050 diamond cards pulled from that sample size, in order for it to fall within a generous 5% margin distribution.
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@Rhyno1986_XBL Thanks, I know how statistics work. I have a masters degree in engineering and maths were of course a major component of my program. Sure, in one sample of 50 pack pulls, indeed, a diamond may not be pulled. However, when we are looking at 50,000 packs, statistically, there should be between 950 and 1050 diamond cards pulled from that sample size, in order for it to fall within a generous 5% margin distribution.
But no one posting “the odds can’t be right?!?!?!” or “SDS needs to be audited!!!!!” has opened 50,000 packs. I would be VERY surprised, based off of previous lawsuits, if SDS was lying about the odds. They do other sneaky [censored] that’s totally within the law, that they don’t need to lie about the pack odds.
Also, as others have said, no one comes on here bragging about the amount of diamonds they get when it’s against the odds. To be honest, I feel like I’ve had amazing pack luck this year compared to last year. And last year I had terrible pack luck compared to the year before that.
