SDS Turning Into 2K Money Grabbers
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FWIW, I don’t have much of an opinion here either. I guess if I had a vote, I’d lift the 20 card limit. Why? To me, this is simply a video game. Let me play how I want to. Invest or not invest? Flip or not flip? Hit homers or not? Whatever….
Of course, I’d also make everything you earn sellable. I’d also make perfect/perfect hits in Moments be homers. So, what do I know?
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What is the genesis of trying to kill the investment side of this game? Are you hoping we investors and collectors will just empty our wallets and buy stubs? Quite the opposite. These restrictions STOPPED me from buying stubs.
With this one excerpt, you contradicted the ridiculous title of this post. The "investors", which is a stupid term to use in a BASEBALL game, are the ones who normally empty their wallets to stock up on hundreds of silvers and golds waiting for them to turn diamond so they can jack up the prices anyway. SDS putting a cap on your stockpile kills the idea of wanting people to buy stubs.
Most of us just...ya know....play the game for free packs and stubs. Not everyone has the "gotta have it all, gotta have it right now" mentality.
I can not agree with you more. There are plenty of packs and cyclable resources to increase your stub stash. This game is a marathon not a sprint. If you sprint in this game you wind up broke. You can use the market to supplement like I do to do some lazy flipping but I do it only 15 to 30 minutes a day. 99.9% of resources I have accumulated has been from playing the game.
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@DrBear100_PSN oh ok, so just play exactly the way you play and it’s fine? What about the people who flip more than 15 mins a day? Is that considered too much?
Why is your particular amount ok but not more?
You guys have weird anti-market feeling for a group of people who play a game mode built around a market.
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@DrBear100_PSN oh ok, so just play exactly the way you play and it’s fine? What about the people who flip more than 15 mins a day? Is that considered too much?
Why is your particular amount ok but not more?
You guys have weird anti-market feeling for a group of people who play a game mode built around a market.
You play how you wanna play, I can careless, that's how I play that's all I'm saying.
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What is the genesis of trying to kill the investment side of this game? Are you hoping we investors and collectors will just empty our wallets and buy stubs? Quite the opposite. These restrictions STOPPED me from buying stubs.
With this one excerpt, you contradicted the ridiculous title of this post. The "investors", which is a stupid term to use in a BASEBALL game, are the ones who normally empty their wallets to stock up on hundreds of silvers and golds waiting for them to turn diamond so they can jack up the prices anyway. SDS putting a cap on your stockpile kills the idea of wanting people to buy stubs.
Most of us just...ya know....play the game for free packs and stubs. Not everyone has the "gotta have it all, gotta have it right now" mentality.
I can not agree with you more. There are plenty of packs and cyclable resources to increase your stub stash. This game is a marathon not a sprint. If you sprint in this game you wind up broke. You can use the market to supplement like I do to do some lazy flipping but I do it only 15 to 30 minutes a day. 99.9% of resources I have accumulated has been from playing the game.
And the people who sprint are gone before the break leaving all their [censored] on the market at inflated prices. I'd rather these casuals just leave now really
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@xero4019_XBL, that's a really disingenuous take.
This isnt about market principles. At the heart of your position is this simple truth: you want the rewards without doing any of the work.
And not wanting to do the work is fine; I don't want to spend all of my time grinding away, either, but I accept the fact that I will not have all the things right away unless I want to buy them (I don't).
SDS/Sony has provided three paths to obtaining the best cards: put in the time and earn them over several months of play (while still being able to supplement with "investments" in blocks of 20), skip that and purchase them for real money, or get really lucky and pull them in the hundreds of packs they provide for free. It is their prerogative to define the terms through which you can obtain the very non-essential goods they provide.
The argument that they should not be allowed to do that because it makes you sad is tantamount to a child's tantrum.
You're being selfish, so if youre going to take that path, stop trying to frame it in terms of market economics when your goal is to pressure a for-profit company to give away something of value, against its wishes, simply because you and a very vocal, like-minded group don't think it's fair to ask you to earn them or buy them.
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Bruh, investing and flipping do require "work" and were a part of the overall package of the game. You're right about it being their choice to limit to 20 cards, but making the change without telling anyone is baloney and you know it. Additionally, it's hard to say there's any justification for letting bots control the market to limit flipping. The users unleashing bots are without a doubt selling the stubs they make on the secondary market and that's not just bad for people that like to flip cards, it's revenue lost for SDS on stubs. Communication really shouldn't be that hard and they need to do better...
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@The_Joneser_PSN they had provided four means. And they took one away.
Everything that was done, was done within a system that SDS designed and ran with for years. There was nothing shady, or lazy, or unethical about it. It was simply a way to play the game that was in front of us.
I absolutely guarantee that if I went through your post history, and that of anyone else celebrating the win, I wouldn’t find a single mention of “investing is ruining the game” anywhere. Nobody praising the move was asking for it.
It has nothing to do with not wanting to do the work. It has to do with taking away the way thousands of people played the game THEY DESIGNED.
You’re fine with it because you didn’t do it. That’s ok. But don’t sit there and pretend it’s what you wanted all along because “it was for lazy people.”
And by the way, your precious game is completely broken. Market bots, cheating scripts, unplayable servers… have fun 🤮
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@The_Joneser_PSN they had provided four means. And they took one away.
Interesting... I don't recall the marketing behind the programs where you stock up on cards and then dump them by the hundreds when they progress to make boat loads of the same stubs the company sells for actual money. It may be possible that humans found a way to exploit the design of the market for their personal gain, despite SDS never having had the intention to provide a path based on investing.
I'll stick with three paths, there.
There was nothing shady, or lazy, or unethical about it. It was simply a way to play the game that was in front of us.
Didn't say it was any of those things. It wasn't expressly prohibited, so it was allowed. Now it isn't. Mostly because the company that pays its labor force to produce the game figured out it was losing money on that unintended path.
It has to do with taking away the way thousands of people played the game THEY DESIGNED.
They fixed the design flaw in their game that led to them losing money they could otherwise invest... I hope they consider paying for the rights to Tim Hudson or paying the team to ensure that pitches in the strike zone are called strikes.
You’re fine with it because you didn’t do it. That’s ok. But don’t sit there and pretend it’s what you wanted all along because “it was for lazy people.”
I didn't do it. And I'm pretty sure I already said that I was too lazy to do the work myself. It was for people who saw that opportunity while it existed, but now it doesn't.
I didn't want it all along because I didn't give it much of a thought, like most people who play this game. But now that it's being shoved in everyones' faces in multiple threads and venues, and I understand that resource hoarding never benefits the general population, I do want it now. I think it makes sense on multiple fronts.
And by the way, your precious game is completely broken. Market bots, cheating scripts, unplayable servers… have fun 🤮
I'm enjoying the game very much, so far. Thank you. You do the same.
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@The_Joneser_PSN I'm also enjoying the game quite a bit
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I always get the live series done in reasonable time and I never flip. It’s actually kinda nice having silvers and bronzes so cheap. If your fun is buying and investing then yeah, this sucks. That was never “my” fun.
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This is my favorite kind of post, thanks OP.
You wrote a full on economic dissertation on fake baseball cards in a video game forum.
You didn’t “lose the market” you lost your full-time unpaid job you operate out of your mom’s basement. I know you’re mad because you might have to actually play the game now but it might be good for you and your fellow Stub CEOs in the long run.
And for the record- Calling this ‘economic control’ is a reach. They capped inventory and reduced easy flips — that’s it.
You weren’t investing, you were exploiting loose mechanics, and now that they’re gone you’re framing it like a macroeconomic issue.
And this isn’t serious analysis, you may want to “invest” your time learning real markets instead of treating The Show as your little make believe Hedge Fund fairy tail.
But again, I love the post. Hopefully you share these replies with your buddies during your next furry party.
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Dude - nobody is anti-market,if anything we might be anti ‘sit in menus for hours and call it gameplay.’
Buying and selling for profit still works — it’s just not as exploitable or time-dominant. The issue isn’t that it’s gone, it’s that it no longer revolves around you.
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Play the game you can earn plenty of usable cards for competitive online play just by playing the game. This is a video game not Robinhood
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Don't give them your money, in no shape form or fashion can they grab it away from anyone. But also its unconstructive to be upset with people who actually enjoy the Show and love spending their resources on it. Jealousy doesn't do anything but put undue stress on your heart and send you to an early grave.
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Anyone who has played 2K will tell you that this is absolute rubbish.
I'm annoyed at SDS like many, but compared to 2K, SDS are angelic.
2K have 90% of good cards locked behind real money only packs, their "content" is just packs, and Mid cycle they had a card that cost up to $10,000.
Not to mention that literally 95% of all cards in 2K are unsellable. -
2k releases cards every week with worse rates than Ohtani. If the top overall cards in a pack are a 6'0" point guard or Wemby, you will get the point guard 99% of the time you hit those "<1%" odds
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@jisaksen2422_PSN I know an AI-generated ragebait post when I see one lmao
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@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN Funny thing is, we can’t even play the game without getting disconnected.
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@The_Joneser_PSN how’s it going this morning lmfao
