Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.
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@MadderBumgarner said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@ImDFC said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
Are you ready for all 30 TA cards to be juiced prospect cards?
Yeah but this is being released in packs so... I’m confused now.
In the initial tweet, they said 30+ Future Stars cards.
So 30 for TA, a couple for headliners, and maybe some others from somewhere else.
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@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
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I love the Madrigal prospect card. Very consistent bat for me. And to whoever said he swings a wet schlong or whatever ... he’s a defense/contact/speed prospect. He shouldn’t be hitting nukes.
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I am so confused. Nick Madrigal already has the prospect card, which as an 85-plus is already a generous ranking. Why give another card of prospects? I understand trying to think outside the box and give us more content since we're all sitting at home, but I don't get this. There's going to be 1 per team but this is a headliner? An 95 Madrigal is the same overall rating as the current Mike Trout. Are you saying you project that Nick Madrigal will one day be as good as Trout now? What in the world? This is all so weird.
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@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
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@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
No, I meant he sucks. Other contact/speed options still generate good exit velos on lines drives and ground balls and such. My experience with Madrigal is that he can't hit it harder than it was thrown to him.
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@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
No, I meant he sucks. Other contact/speed options still generate good exit velos on lines drives and ground balls and such. My experience with Madrigal is that he can't hit it harder than it was thrown to him.
At least that’s realistic lmao.
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They just did prospects and those were stupid juiced, now we’re gettitng more prospects w even more juiced stats??? Seriously what’s the point of ls cards anymore except collections, this guy is equal to trout ? Better than every other live series player..... I mean come on it’s just stupid at this point
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The fact that he is a 95 is insanity
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holy mother of....its even worse than i thought
MLB the show, now with double the juice half the fielding!
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
No, I meant he sucks. Other contact/speed options still generate good exit velos on lines drives and ground balls and such. My experience with Madrigal is that he can't hit it harder than it was thrown to him.
At least that’s realistic lmao.
What if they gave this card good power, to you know, drive the interest and stock of the card up?
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
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@kdogg53075 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
The fact that he is a 95 is insanity
Can’t wait for that 99 Wander Franco lmao
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Cant wait for 99 Pearson with 105 mph sinker.
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@SchnauzerFace said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
Ozzie Smith only had a 95 SS card , giving any prospect a 95 is just silly. The last batch were too juiced this is just laughable. So all these cards will be better than every live series player and all the current fof players, get out of here w this [censored]
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@MaxHarvest said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@SchnauzerFace said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
Ozzie Smith only had a 95 SS card , giving any prospect a 95 is just silly. The last batch were too juiced this is just laughable. So all these cards will be better than every live series player and all the current fof players, get out of here w this [censored]
No, I agree 100% that a 95 OVR madrigal is silly. His 85 or 86 or whatever his prospect card is seems spot on for his toolset. I’m just questioning the logic of saying he “sucks” and won’t be “anything special” just because he’s not a power hitter. You can’t have 26 Mike Trouts on your roster. You need guys like Madrigal who have great speed, contact, and defense.
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@SchnauzerFace said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
I’m talking strictly offensive production. If his defense is good enough to give him 4 fWAR a season, than so be it.
But only hitting 1 homerun in 134 PA at triple-A with a juiced ball isn’t very promising for what he’ll be capable of at the MLB level. And it’s not even just the lack of homeruns, it’s the lack of power as a whole. His ISO is abysmal, and that just isn’t going to translate well into the majors in today’s game.
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@SchnauzerFace said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
The only way this argument holds is if Madrigal plays defense like the greatest defensive shortstop ever (at the least until Simmons is done).
While I agree that contact and speed guys are important, don't make a comparison that doesn't hold to prove your point.
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call it what u want, the guy now has 2 future cards which is so stupid
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@SchnauzerFace said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@coachstein55 said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
@XxLordKingAcexX said in Nick Madrigal is the new Future Stars headliner.:
I thought his prospect card swung a wet ramen noodle
Yes, he is a pure contact hitter with no sign of power and has really good to great speed. He will be similar to a Tony Gwynn at best or a better average, less k's, and also a less speedy version of Billy Hamilton.
Only 4 homeruns in his entire minor league career is pretty terrible. Not to mention he only had a 114 wRC+ in Triple-A.
The dude isn’t going to be anything special at the major league level.
He can barely get a .100 ISO, so he doesn’t just not hit homeruns, he doesn’t get any exit velocity at all.
I don’t get this take at all. He gets on base. He has an elite glove. He’s faster than balls. Guys like madrigal are important because they set the table so a guy like Eloy doesn’t end the year with 40 HRs and 40 RBI.
By this measure, i guess you think Ozzie Smith “wasn’t anything special” at the major league level?
I’m talking strictly offensive production. If his defense is good enough to give him 4 fWAR a season, than so be it.
But only hitting 1 homerun in 134 PA at triple-A with a juiced ball isn’t very promising for what he’ll be capable of at the MLB level.
His offensive production is based around contact and getting on base (he has an extremely good eye and will walk a lot). I would rather he play to his strengths and skills than try to be a power hitter unsuccessfully. Didn’t ichiro always say he could hit 40 HR / year but then he’d hit like .220? Id much rather have guys like Tony Gwynn and rod Carew and Wade Boggs who could slap the ball around the field and not strike our 150 times because they were constantly trying to go deep.
