Welp, stadium vault isn't carrying over to 2026
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@Suel21_MLBTS said in Welp, stadium vault isn't carrying over to 2026:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL I get all that but the question was, what did they promise or say they would do that they didn't? Your response is that you advised them on something or made suggestions. They haven't broken any promises or failed to do anything with stadium creator that they said they would...
Prior is right, we did and have been trying to work with SDS for a couple years now about improving the Stadium Creator, through simple QoL things. We had long been told that they would be working on things for the creator to improve its functionality, or that it would be “passed on”. It’s implied that all modes would continue to be built upon when any developer says they’re always looking to improve the game.
This merely came to a head this past iteration with the entire Lagrasa nonsense. Someone had accidentally discovered how to move the foul territory fences…and at first it was viewed as a boon and many creators leaned into it and told SDS “cat’s out of the bag now, you might as well work with our suggestions at this point”. It was maybe two or three days after this that the first Lagrasa popped up.
We privately messaged SDS community heads in an attempt to get a round table going on how to improve the creator, building off this accidental discovery while maintaining the integrity of the mode: Basically saying all they needed to do was implement min/max requirements in order to keep stadiums online eligible, while at the same time gatekeeping gross abuse of the new found freedom.
It’s not that they “promised “ and failed to deliver…it’s that they looked at the option of either working with the Creator community on genuinely improving the mode while maintaining their restrictions on garbage stadiums- OR the optically horrible option for total control with zero interaction. They went for the second option- not a good look in the slightest.
That’s why we’re largely disjointed with SDS…it felt the like entire interactions were entirely in bad faith. I 100% understand not everyone’s on board with the creator, and that’s cool…we’re all allowed to enjoy different parts of the game moreso than others. It’s the implication that was made, and not remotely followed through on despite at least two years worth of requests to provide feedback taken from designers from end users. That’s all
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I 100% agree with the frustrations on it. I always talk about stuff I'd like to see in the game when I stream with people in chat and how they could do x, y, and z. However, if you're going to say "when a company of any kind says one thing and continuously does another, it is my right as a paying consumer to call them out for it." They haven't promised anything officially in trailers or online to deceive you into the buying game for that purpose and then pulled back on it. Maybe I'm looking at it too much from a legal standpoint. I have posted my frustrations here about how they aren't really listening to what we want too. I ranted a bit on here when the futuristic props came out about how we ask for certain things (bullpens on the field, no home run line, etc) Same stuff you guys talk about too. The post was called "SDS just proved they don't listen." But my overall point is that they haven't been deceptive to the consumer in any way as far as I can tell. I'll stand here with you guys and back you up that we aren't getting the updates we'd like to see all day though.
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Only true time they’ve listened was creating standing fans. (And might we please get a single fan option too, at that?)
Other than such, not much has intentionally improved with additions.
Bullpens behind walls, better foul line wall angles and options, better ways to “cut off stands,” improved usage and snapping with objects—especially batter’ eyes, etc?
We can’t even get Canadian flags, different colored neon lettering/more number options for fonts, or cactus props in the game.
Thus, how can we even hope for the bigger, and more important QoL upgrades to core Stadium Creation concepts?
Unfortunately, we can’t hold our breath about anything.
Anger about this eventually does lead to apathy—and often that leads to the worst ultimate outcome… the failure of an entity overall.
I truly hope that’s not the case, as we all have common love for the game of baseball… and deep down want to see these things in The Show.
We LOVE The Show! Again, we LOVE The Show; but when you are constantly let down and feel ignored, what do you expect the consumer or fan to do? Eventually, they don’t care, and/or they leave for something else.
Constant rejection and being ignored is not a recipe for a successful partnership between customer and producer/seller. We get disappointed because we care. Get ignored enough, we won’t care anymore. Many in this forum and topic are reaching that point either now or soon. Video games are an addictive concept—though nevertheless, a company’s thought of fans doing anything for their annual dose eventually does stop for many, regardless how much our brains are wired to come back every year because of that “need,” and/or “fear of missing out.”
Please, SDS—we love your game and baseball. We care about your product. Kindly show that commitment in return. Taking such relationship for granted with customers is endlessly less than ideal.
When you can have 5 uniform creation options with mix-and-match capability in another competing major sports title, and only two uniform sets with no variation options in this game—it shows people clearly what is missing, desired, and yet nevertheless deprived.
And as for hoping things will change… Expectations should be restrained because of past inaction. Yet, it’s in most of us to continue to hope—as that is what all makes us baseball fans. Eventually, it WAS the Cubs year to win the World Series. The White and Red Sox did it too.
Now, we again hope SDS breaks their “drought.” Not counting on it—but we can hope. If fans don’t like what they see, then just don’t “go to the games anymore.”
We’re cheering for you, The Show! Come up with the clutch hit and send everyone home happy!
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@Blujfan1992_XBL
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@blujfan1992_xbl you are bang on, and that’s what Prior and I have been after for years…as well as other prominent creators. I remember years ago they met with some of the “community” members (big streamers- most of whom may or may not have had their own agenda) to discuss how to improve the game. That’s what I would love, is if SDS came to us and said “Ok, now we’re seriously ready for your input on THIS mode in particular”.
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The gaming kitchen here...I've been on this since mlb the show 21.....im not here to gatekeep...im here to keep it real. The fact is new comers and people who are casually into this scheme have positivity. Im not here for hyperbole im here to tell the truth and the facts.
The fact is this is a mode that has been neglected since 22 and whatever was given to the pioneers of the stadium creating community since then has been crumbs. This isnt the first go around that they shipped a game with vault issues and glitches and did nothing to fix it.
The fact that some of you here believe that erasing an entire vault that will alienate people like myself and most old school stsdium builders here is an insult and gross naivety of the situation.
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I don't know who people talked to at SDS but unless it was someone capable of making decisions on how resources are allocated then it does not mean a whole lot.
I worked in IT Software Support for the majority of my career. It was our job to listen. I can't count how many times I told users that I would pass something along to the programming teams and I would indeed pass things along to the programming team. But that is as far as I could take it. The decision was not in my hands at that point.
I hope the Vault is fixed. I hope the changes you all want are in stadium creator this year. But I still believe the core mechanics of how the vaults operate need to be fixed first, because if not then when they do get around to fixing the vault then it could mean the vault gets wiped again thanks to 10,000 costco fields cluttering up the vault. Until then I feel that stadium creators are building their stadiums on a shaky, unreliable foundation.
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@Sarge1387_PSN I hear you! I’m big into creating too… I’m just very low key about it.
I got the game this year around Thanksgiving at a huge discount exactly because of all the complaints I kept reading about all season. So I’ve maybe done three new ones so far myself.
Other times, I will adapt some great creations from the community, and edit them a little for my preferences.
In 23 and 24, I created a ton. It gets so frustrating because of all the problems and restrictions that we’ve all been enduring—and are well-documented—for years.
After a while, you just give up and do something else with your free time, as that is our biggest commodity. If we are going to be ignored, why keep coming back for more?
And I say this as loving Stadium Creator and uniform designing as my favorite The Show elements!
It’s so exciting to have your imagination become a reality, and get to actually play in those venues—that when we were kids—we’re unthinkable.
Video games are fantasy and escape. If there is capability to allow that for a customer, and yet to deprive the same?… It’s just a shame.
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I honestly think if you want to see real changes to SC, you're gonna need to get the big diamond dynasty streamers talking about it out something along those lines. Either way, changes/updates this year or not, I'll still continue creating SC content and showing off everyone's creations. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll notice the great stadiums that people who love the feature create and be more motivated to give us some new updates.
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I’m going to need you to be busy Suel when this game drops. Almost all my saved stadiums are from you. Bummed I’m not going to have them to start. Guess I’ll just need you to build something cool again for 26. Looks forward to the videos. Have we had a stadium of the year vote yet? That Olympic one by Murph is nuts.
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Hey I appreciate the kind words! Just a heads up I changed my PSN name to StadiumsCenter so you'll have to search the vault under that instead of Suel21. Phil's stadium of the year live stream is planned for the 17th. We're all kinda guessing ObituaryTurtle is going to win it but there were definitely a lot of great stadiums this year. I'm going to be a judge so I'm not entering any of my builds. My best was probably the one I built for Flank though.
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In what way does a massive nuclear option by a a game company like sds proof that they care to hear from you? You guys need to wake up
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@ROTMG88_PSN said in Welp, stadium vault isn't carrying over to 2026:
In what way does a massive nuclear option by a a game company like sds proof that they care to hear from you? You guys need to wake up
If the big nuclear option does not lead to a positive change, now or in the future, then it was a waste of their time and the time of the creators.
But it is too soon to know. I'm as cynical as the next guy but whether they have earned my patience or not I can wait to see what happens over the next month of previews. I'd rather have a positive mindset for the next month even if that means a few days of disappointment later. That is better than spending the next month upset about something we don't have any details about yet.
We are awake. We just choose to approach the situation from a different angle.
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If you’re interested, check out some of mine in the Creator as well- depending on what your preferred style is. I’ve got most of them in the r/mlbtheshowstadiums on Reddit.
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Suel or sarge, do you guys take a custom stadiums request? I’m a huge Dodger homer, go to many games, and would pay some good $ for a custom Dodger stadium build for 26. Name your price lol. I do like the New Dodger Stadium opening the vault but would make a few changes to outfield seating.
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@Sarge1387_PSN are you Sarge1387 in the vault too?
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@Belli_bomb_PSN
I do but it's usually more than most people want to pay because it takes so long to make a good stadium. I got a few streamers already asking for new stadiums or remakes of ones I did for them since they aren't carrying over. You can always jump into my discord and ask the guys there too. They usually jump at the chance to build something for someone. They like a good challenge. -
Yessir I am
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@Sarge1387_PSN
Nice! I'll check it out tomorrow! -
@ROTMG88_PSN
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