MLB the show won’t change
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Have people not figured out yet that certain users are trolls?
Note that responding to a troll can get you banned but trolling itself is apparently ok by forum guidelines
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Most of us know who all the well known trolls, shills and fan boys are but they seem to spawn at an alarming rate.
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@TheGoaler_PSN said in MLB the show won’t change:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in MLB the show won’t change:
Either greed won out in the end or the Sony suits overruled the original plan and said terrible packs and microtransactions are happening whether SDS wanted to or not.
I totally agree with this.
I understand that its a business, but The Show has gone from user-friendly to what it is now: a 'radical change,' ala the Tremonti song. It's went from a NMS paradise to 'we want you to spend.' 'WWYTS!' Something is definitely up, when Spotlight packs always give you a Topps Now Card instead, every. Single. Time! I did pull that Brewers pitcher, who the Mets smacked up at Citi Field yesterday, and the immortal Kody Clemens, a few weeks ago. That's it! You want Bruce Lee's brother, Brooks? Whip out the credit or debit. Stick 'em up! 🤪
I may have pulled the top tier twice, in all the Spotlight packs I've opened. The feeling when you rip open one, and see purple lights is unmatched!!It's useful to put things into perspective. The data on sales and revenue for these companies has become very tightly guarded. We only have until MLB 22 for actual reported numbers, but since MLB The Show was introduced, the title has garnered between 1.3 to 2 million sold units. In addition, since with MLB 21's introduction making the title available for XBox, the Gamepass subscription service netted SDS another 3.5 to 4 million downloads. It is not publicly released how much Microsoft paid SDS for each download.
Nevertheless, SDS decided with MLB 25 to decline Gamepass. One would think that was a revenue based choice, but you never really know.
The point is that SDS exists on an annual sales-based revenue stream of somewhere in the zone of $75 to $100 million each year. So, does SDS really draw in a significant post sale revenue stream from people spending actual money for stubs? I mean that's the only way it would happen, and I don't suspect that would amount to much.
It seems that SDS volunteered to surrender a lot more revenue by passing on XBox Gamepass this year.
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I would say its a 99% chance that the monetization is driven by Sony and not SDS. And SDS aren't the ones making the revenue, its all passed up to Sony.
It wasn't heavily monetized for a long time because it was a PS exclusive, and a system seller.
Once the game was no longer a PS exclusive things changed, and this was not a coincidence.
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Exactly. This makes all the sense in the world to everyone that’s been around for years and chooses not to use every excuse in the book to let SDS and Sony off the hook for their deviation off the customer friendly path they were once well known for.
Que the shills to come say at least it’s still better than Madden or 2K.
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It’s so bizarre to see the amount of people defending the game with such vigor. Stockholm Syndrome in action…Just wow.
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I'll defend SDS specifically on the topic of monetization because I feel that's Sony's fault entirely (and will not defend Sony at all on this). its nearly universal that its the publisher behind stuff like this.
There are other things to lay on SDS, such as mini seasons still being a mess after several years. And even this is probably partially Sony's fault for not allowing SDS more programmers.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in MLB the show won’t change:
I would say its a 99% chance that the monetization is driven by Sony and not SDS. And SDS aren't the ones making the revenue, its all passed up to Sony.
It wasn't heavily monetized for a long time because it was a PS exclusive, and a system seller.
Once the game was no longer a PS exclusive things changed, and this was not a coincidence.
I don't put this on just Sony, I think MLB has been a big driving force behind the changes we have seen, starting with going multi platform....
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in MLB the show won’t change:
Que the shills to come say at least it’s still better than Madden or 2K.
Is it though?
I don't play those at all. Shoot I don't even play this one that much anymore.
I would say that worse than the shills who defend it (especially if they are being genuine) are the ones who condemn it but still buy and play the game every year. They are just as responsible as the shills for the path that is being traveled by Sony and SDS.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN PGA Tour 2k25 is 2K and I feel rewarded a lot more than this. I have 320 hours in the show and can't even complete LS. I have 358 in PGA Tour 2k25 and have everything I need and more to compete. This game is pathetic when it comes to rewards. Look at the rewards for the 600 weekend classic. I can get what is likely a non-sellable rewind, a June spotlight (highly likely a Topps card) and an 85+ LS (lets be honest it will be a LS worth 3k stubbs).
For the person that said collections and chase cards players don't make you better. I will just say that is not very intelligent. You will have WAY more success with Beltran, Turner, Hodges, Clemens, Santana, Castro (the list goes on and on) than you would with the program cards that you can obtain. To say otherwise is just idiotic.
Oh and you will never convince me tyler does not work for SDS.
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Stop comparing an ultimate team mode to PGA Tour's MyCareer type mode. Its a different type of mode entirely, closer to RTTS (does RTTS even have a multiplayer element? I got bored with it super fast)
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Oh, I get that. Simply meant people love to say no matter how far the Show has fallen it’s still better than Madden or NBA or FIFA.
That’s not how comparison works. You have to compare previous versions of games to themselves. It’s crystal clear the direction has changed for one reason or another.
As for simply buying the game being worse than the shills I disagree. I don’t spend nearly as much on the game as I used to and I still play because I love baseball, hope things will change for the better even though they don’t, and there are no other viable options.
Bottom line the game requires more time and money to field the “fun” cards and the reward for time invested has fallen off a cliff compared to just a few years ago.
Dolenz can’t deny that and he still buys the game despite admittedly not enjoying it as much. So maybe he is calling himself out to be worse than the shills even though I don’t believe that to be the case.
