Remember when user input mattered?
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL, there are inputs associated with pitching, as well. Those don't matter?
I am definitely barking up the wrong tree because you aren't smart enough to think for yourself and grasp the fact that "everyone" (actually a very small sample of the game's population, but you wouldn't understand that, either) might be wrong. You just follow the crowd, thoughtlessly.
There are plenty of examples of the phenomenon... people believe that you only use 10% of your brain (though you might)... 77 million people were absolutely positive that they'd just voted for a stronger economy and no more entanglements in foreign wars... worse, still, a huge part of the population believes that there is a second "r" in sherbet.
And, yes. You're all full of [censored] if you think the game picks winners and losers based on "RNG" while ignoring user input. It plays differently this year, and you may either like that or not like that, but most of the things being bandied about as "truth" by you and the dunderheads you're defending are complete nonsense.
Learn something about small sample sizes, egocentric bias... and, my God, man, learn something about punctuation.
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@Afromeister_XBL Talk about reaching. “The worst input” isn’t resulting in the best outcomes. The worst inputs more often than not result in a swing and miss. At best it’s a foul and yes maybe we need to adjust foul balls, but what you are saying simply isn’t true. The best inputs, perfect perfects, are a hit the vast majority of the time.
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@Afromeister_XBL said in Remember when user input mattered?:
Anyone who plays online can point out how bad the scripting is in this game. If you have 2 lineouts in an inning, your opponent is likely going to have at least one horrific swing lead to a single or double. This isn't anecdotal.
Really?
Maybe you don't know what anecdotal means?
Criticizing and airing your opinion about the game is different than being a [censored] and claiming that your opinions and the stories that you've heard are fact. People in this very thread have pointed out how you are incorrect that "squared up" balls aren't "rewarded" (I think it was 18 for 20 on perfect/perfects between you and opponents), so why should anyone believe anything you say? You're an unreliable narrator.
If you don't have data, you just have opinions. If you don't think that you're just spouting baseless opinions, demonstrate, using quantifiable data, how the "worst swings are rewarded more than the good ones."
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@Afromeister_XBL
Actually pal, your pea sized brain can't comprehend the simple fact that that is baseball. So don't come over here and act like your so tough and insult us when you don't know what the f**k is up because you are clueless. Also, by your hilariously stupid and futile attempt of debunking my accurate claim, nobody effing said that good inputs should always be hits. You did, buddy, so shut your mouth. Good inputs usually result in hits, however, real life does take place and sometimes find gloves. Oh, and, if somebody puts a good swing on the ball, it wouldn't be going foul, would it? Bad swings where your PCI so much as touches the ball results in a foul ball. I don't know what you're complaining about, but clearly, this doesn't penetrate your pea-sized brain. -
A perfect pinpoint pitch will not affect the result of the a person squaring up the ball.
In fact, pitching PAR is STILL bugged with pitches landing outside of the PAR region, resulting in hung pitches down the middle.
It's incredibly ironic that you are trying so hard to play the intellect card and yet you use generalities and misinformation to try and support your argument.
Just stop.
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I love the bums who come on here and complain about how the game is against them yet don't know their right from their left.
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@GoozeFn_PSN said in Remember when user input mattered?:
@Afromeister_XBL Talk about reaching. “The worst input” isn’t resulting in the best outcomes. The worst inputs more often than not result in a swing and miss. At best it’s a foul and yes maybe we need to adjust foul balls, but what you are saying simply isn’t true. The best inputs, perfect perfects, are a hit the vast majority of the time.
A foul ball is a good outcome for a bad swing.
Foul balls on bad swings happen at a higher rate than misses and outs combined. Maybe you should start paying attention to the batter anlaysis more. You'd recognize the pattern.
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Bro just casually not acknowledging the facts that I and others have stated. God, this is too funny!
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@TheBigPapa55_PSN said in Remember when user input mattered?:
@Afromeister_XBL
Actually pal, your pea sized brain can't comprehend the simple fact that that is baseball. So don't come over here and act like your so tough and insult us when you don't know what the f**k is up because you are clueless. Also, by your hilariously stupid and futile attempt of debunking my accurate claim, nobody effing said that good inputs should always be hits. You did, buddy, so shut your mouth. Good inputs usually result in hits, however, real life does take place and sometimes find gloves. Oh, and, if somebody puts a good swing on the ball, it wouldn't be going foul, would it? Bad swings where your PCI so much as touches the ball results in a foul ball. I don't know what you're complaining about, but clearly, this doesn't penetrate your pea-sized brain.And again you dense dumazz, I'm not saying every good input should be a hit.
Nuance really escapes you. It's truly fascinating. Why don't you go back and reread my posts because and try to get you goldfish memory to rember that this critcism is about horrible balancing between RNG and user input when it comes to swi g quality.
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@Afromeister_XBL, nothing is negatively affecting the result of a person squaring up the ball (perfect/perfect is a "squared up" ball).
If this is your complaint, please share with us your stats on perfect/perfect contact. My guess is that your p/p stats will show an incredible amount of success, but you'll still insist that you aren't being "rewarded" properly for your preternatural ability to line up the ball with excellent timing.
Stop lying about things and insulting people who call your BS, and people will probably stop taking such umbrage with your posts.
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@Afromeister_XBL
Actually, you kind of are. First of all bud, before we begin, learn some [censored] grammar. You type like a two year-old. Secondly, let me summarize what you are saying. Bad swings result in too many foul balls and good swings result in way too many outs... -
But the funny thing is that you say that isn't what you are talking about and insult us for speaking facts and putting your sorry [censored] in your place
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@TheBigPapa55_PSN said in Remember when user input mattered?:
I love the bums who come on here and complain about how the game is against them yet don't know their right from their left.
Buddy, I would say that I could probably bust you on this game, but this game has no skill gap.
I could easily lose after having a 4-14 showing on hard hits, 4-8 on PPs and a 3-19 on good contact, while you make 5 good swings all game.
Any 1000+ rated player will tell you that the hitting this year is not only atrocious but has significantly lowered the skill gap, but I bet you like get handouts despite getting outplayed.
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@Afromeister_XBL
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@The_Joneser_PSN said in Remember when user input mattered?:
@Afromeister_XBL, nothing is negatively affecting the result of a person squaring up the ball (perfect/perfect is a "squared up" ball).
If this is your complaint, please share with us your stats on perfect/perfect contact. My guess is that your p/p stats will show an incredible amount of success, but you'll still insist that you aren't being "rewarded" properly for your preternatural ability to line up the ball with excellent timing.
Stop lying about things and insulting people who call your BS, and people will probably stop taking such umbrage with your posts.
Where's the lie dickhe@d?
Answer this question for me. Do you think good swings are punished more this year?
If you don't, not only are you wrong, but it's also not worth even continuing this conversation.
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@Afromeister_XBL, here's another example of you believing things that aren't true... the myth about goldfish memories turns out to be just that; they can remember the route to food in mazes and navigate them quickly when they haven't been in that particular maze for several months.
Just another thing that you thought you knew that was actually wrong.
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Oh, but you have 330 hours on the game and are still complaining. Touch some grass
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And yet again, complaining about the realism that should exist on MLB The Show. I don't get handouts, pal. I also suffer from a lot of PP outs and a lot of bad swings resulting in hits. THAT'S BASEBALL YOU DUMB [censored], Either deal with it or stop whining like a toddler
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@Afromeister_XBL said in Remember when user input mattered?:
best swings are punished
Lie.
This game rewards bad inputs more than good ones.
Lie.
The worst timings and worst pci placements get rewarded with foul balls 3x times as often as they are punished with outs.
Have data to back that up? Nope? Another lie.
squaring the ball up results more often than not results in outs.
Easily checked in your game history. Lie.
It's harder to hit this year. I don't think of it as "punishment" because I'm not four, but it is definitely harder to get hits on balls not in the heart of the strike zone. I think that's a good thing.
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@TheBigPapa55_PSN what the poster is trying to say is very simple. Good inputs are not being rewarded as much this year as in previous years. Why is that so hard to understand? And the skill gap is closing. Why are you bashing him for this opinion? Which isnt really an opinion anymore. The game is not playing as well as previous years. Tons of people are stating this. Not just him. Calm down dude.
