Struggling for motivation to play
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@Dolenz_PSN to be honest: You are a theme team guy, I respect that … but in order to gain xp, you gotta do stuff . If that doesn‘t give you the fun you want, fine, but you cannot expect to only play our way to get things… focus on the programs (the „May“-program is rather easy, that gives out a lot of xp. And they will probably have Double-PXP, that makes it way easier to complete programs … BUT: The 2nd inning was way harder than the first. I just had my first wheel-spin and I play quite often. In reference: I had like 6-8 1st inning spins and I missed the launch week.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Struggling for motivation to play:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Struggling for motivation to play:
- I don't want to get 50 TB with 2B - I don't even have a second baseman on my Cardinal Squad.
- I don't want to get 15 XBH with Orioles - I only have 3 orioles >= 80 overall
- I don't want to get 15 XBH with SS
- I don't want to get 50 TB with Yankees (81 Judge, 82 Chisholm and 87 Boggs are the main hitters that I have)
- I don't want to get 20 XBH with Angels (82 Christian Moore and 85 Soler)
- I don't want to get 15 HR with Brewers (Contreras with 64/71 power is my best option)
Good news, you don't have to do literally any of those things because of the surplus of stars in the program. Just do the moments instead and the PXP and you only need to do I think 1 stat grind for each spotlight...maybe 2
I think it is two. I just looked and the first April spotlight I am one point short of completing it and I have already done all of the moments and one of the stat grinds. (and curse them for giving point values that can hit 49 out of 50 points, requiring you to do that one extra mission for 1 point)
If you skip a week then it is 3 of the stat grinds that need to be done because the PXP missions includes the final reward for the previous weeks program.
I'm not a newbie and I know that you can skip a few missions but even the ones you do need to do can take time, especially this year when my play has been very streaky.
And these are just my feelings. I understand if others don't feel the same.
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I'll never understand why every program doesn't have a repeatable pxp mission. Its just nonsensical.
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I feel the same way as many of you. Part of the problem with comparing xp in inning 2 vs inning 1 is the 135,000 xp from team affinity at a very early level in that reward path. There is no additional xp in team affinity after 30 affinity points. Losing access to this makes it even harder to get to the end of the 2nd inning path
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It seems like we're reaching a point where most of the complaints come down to some version of "I should not have to play the game to get the rewards".
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Sadly, I feel the same. Less motivation.
Lack of gatekeeper pulls is bothering me more than it should. Something is off. I actually felt like skipping a few weeks, but NHL has me feeling the same. I could run to Forza 5, but that's a racing game. I need my sports games, but they're all a letdown these days.
I still have maybe 8-10 Conquest maps to do, but the packs have a great chance to be duds again, so they just sit there, lol.
It's so bad that I probably won't even Plat aka get all trophies, and I always do that. That list is trash as well. -
Hopefully there is double xp starting tomorrow through the end of the 2nd inning. Outside of mini seasons I don’t have any extra sources of xp and I definitely don’t plan on straight up grinding v CPU games to finish it.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Struggling for motivation to play:
It seems like we're reaching a point where most of the complaints come down to some version of "I should not have to play the game to get the rewards".
If this is your take than you are incorrect
Its more like "I should not have to play the game a specific way to get the rewards"
And Ill add that those rewards are roughly half of what we were getting two years agoI've only really minded the forced showdowns personally, I'm just tired of 1-3 card programs
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Struggling for motivation to play:
It seems like we're reaching a point where most of the complaints come down to some version of "I should not have to play the game to get the rewards".
This is not the message at all. Instead the message is I’m playing just as much as I did in the first inning where I got to 1 wheel spin and this inning I’m no where close to the boss packs because there are far fewer sources of xp. No team affinity xp. No multiple conquest maps like at startup with xp. Only 1 mini season with xp not 2 like at startup. Far fewer xp gates in the multi player program.
If SDS is going to nerf xp from playing the game they need to make up for it with large gates in the various programs.
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@GooseOnEm_PSN apparently they will fix that tho.
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I literally just turned the game on, saw that there was not only still not a repeatable conquest map, but no new one at all, and turned it right back off. I do not want to play ranked. I definitely do not want to play diamond quest. Mini-Seasons is fine, but I want an actual playable version of conquest back. It is completely absurd that they still haven't added a repeatable one. It seems they are actively trying to make the game as unfun as possible.
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@Dinger_Dan19_PSN said in Struggling for motivation to play:
@GooseOnEm_PSN apparently they will fix that tho.
I didn’t even mean to do it last time but I went on a complete bender where I forgot how to play and ended up going from 700 to 500 rating. Helped me go 5-1 in Weekend Classic though.
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@mietha_PSN said in Struggling for motivation to play:
I literally just turned the game on, saw that there was not only still not a repeatable conquest map, but no new one at all, and turned it right back off. I do not want to play ranked. I definitely do not want to play diamond quest. Mini-Seasons is fine, but I want an actual playable version of conquest back. It is completely absurd that they still haven't added a repeatable one. It seems they are actively trying to make the game as unfun as possible.
And I dont think they have released a map with more than 5 games on it since the 2nd or 3rd week.
Conquest maps should be like grapefuit/cactus maps, which were great
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If you don't do DD for head-to-head online, then it's bound to get old and grindy. And the mode is reaching the point in its life that lots of players -- not all, but lots -- are burned out on it. I played hard for a few years, had a love-hate relationship with it last year, and haven't played much at all this year. Didn't complete 1st inning, and won't get very far in 2nd.
I wish franchise were better.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL said in Struggling for motivation to play:
If you don't do DD for head-to-head online, then it's bound to get old and grindy. And the mode is reaching the point in its life that lots of players -- not all, but lots -- are burned out on it. I played hard for a few years, had a love-hate relationship with it last year, and haven't played much at all this year. Didn't complete 1st inning, and won't get very far in 2nd.
I wish franchise were better.
The game is less fun to play, particularly with the way the CPU pitches
Mini seasons are significantly less rewarding to repeat
There is no grindable conquest
The programs have less than half the cards they had 2 years ago
XP is tougher to get, and the rewards are complete [censored] anyway. For example, the last node on the xp path is a 53.5% chance of a gold card (and the diamonds have little value anyway)Sure, burnout can happen but the real problem is the game has gone downhill
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Again, the joy has to be in playing baseball games within a video game presentation. If that simple act isn't something you enjoy, then no degree of presentation, mode, or extra concept is going to provide joy to your experience. That said, if you are spending more than a few hours a day playing this game, then you are setting yourself up for burnout and that's not the fault of SDS.
My concern with DD mode is that it encourages obsession by those who play it, by placing before the player some vast scope of layers of achievement needed to achieve pre-determined goals/rewards. This may make some sense to a video game company, but I think it ultimately is a double edged sword that burns people out and hurts long term interests.
If I could physically play actual baseball games still, then that's what I would be doing, but my love of the intricacies of playing baseball has lived long past my physical ability to play it for real. So, a video game is the best alternative.
This is the core reason why I don't play DD but instead RTTS. I just want to play baseball games without layers of additional stuff.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Struggling for motivation to play:
Again, the joy has to be in playing baseball games within a video game presentation. If that simple act isn't something you enjoy, then no degree of presentation, mode, or extra concept is going to provide joy to your experience. That said, if you are spending more than a few hours a day playing this game, then you are setting yourself up for burnout and that's not the fault of SDS.
My concern with DD mode is that it encourages obsession by those who play it, by placing before the player some vast scope of layers of achievement needed to achieve pre-determined goals/rewards. This may make some sense to a video game company, but I think it ultimately is a double edged sword that burns people out and hurts long term interests.
If I could physically play actual baseball games still, then that's what I would be doing, but my love of the intricacies of playing baseball has lived long past my physical ability to play it for real. So, a video game is the best alternative.
This is the core reason why I don't play DD but instead RTTS. I just want to play baseball games without layers of additional stuff.
But you play RTTS, and not just exhibition games, right? Or one may play franchise to see how things unfold across several seasons. There is a hook besides just simply playing a game of baseball, and DD is no different.
I look at DD as the sports version of an RPG. You play games to grow your team, or your roster of players. People approach this in different ways, I personally absolutely despise mindless grinding for grindings sake (play vs CPU), which is why I enjoy conquest and mini seasons more.
The two main problems this year is that the game is less fun to play mechanically for some of us, and that they have taken away some of the ways for us to progress our roster.
Ultimately its the first one that matters more, gameplay is king after all. I cant stick with NBA 2K for example because I feel gameplay is a mess. The gameplay of The Show is still tops among its peers, but I'm torn between wanting new things vs going back to play the superior game from 2 years ago (which unfortunately has some missing content now)
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Grinding hard and then seeing the live series collection just keep going up, has made not want to put in effort, and I never felt like that before
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@aldridg6in_PSN Thats what happens when they really do nothing to improve the game, same stale gameplay and less intriguing programs. I have played a LOT less this year. Not interested in spending hundreds on a game that is much more stale.
Ready for a new studio and fresh devs to take over this game.
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@Dolenz_PSN Bro as a fellow Cards fan I barely just got to Ozzie, I don't even play it like to use to. Just stale
