CPU pitching
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I have played exclusively Rookie vs CPU this year and I’m mostly just punished when I’m not patient. Anything thrown out of the zone is usually VERY out of the zone. Being patient, especially with the first 2 pitches, is key. If you get up 2-0 there’s like a 90% chance the 3rd pitch will be a meatball down the middle.
When playing moments that are on Veteran, it’s very different. They no longer throw way outside the zone, balls tend to be just outside and strikes are almost always hitting the edge of the zone with minimal free meatballs down the middle. It tests your PCI control way more than Rookie.
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It’s by design to slow down grinding and maximize time in the game to see if you will break down and buy stubs to speed up the process. If you want to see how it should be, play March to October on beginner or amateur difficulty. Tons of meatballs, great exit velocity, and you can actuallly dot with your pitchers. Basically it’s more like how rookie difficulty should be playing.
As it plays now, rookie is not actually rookie at all. It’s basically mid level, almost like all-star, just with slightly smaller PCIs and slower pitch speeds. The CPU will dot, nibble off corners, have an eagle eye at the plate, and play platinum defense while your exit velocity is nerfed to boot.
If grinding wasn’t such a huge part of this game I wouldn’t mind so much but with the way the game plays now grinding can be extremely time consuming, unrewarding, and feel like a part time job. It seems like another massive over correction by SDS because a vocal minority claimed it was too easy and devaluing their cards.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in CPU pitching:
It’s by design to slow down grinding and maximize time in the game to see if you will break down and buy stubs to speed up the process. If you want to see how it should be, play March to October on beginner or amateur difficulty. Tons of meatballs, great exit velocity, and you can actuallly dot with your pitchers. Basically it’s more like how rookie difficulty should be playing.
As it plays now, rookie is not actually rookie at all. It’s basically mid level, almost like all-star, just with slightly smaller PCIs and slower pitch speeds. The CPU will dot, nibble off corners, have an eagle eye at the plate, and play platinum defense while your exit velocity is nerfed to boot.
If grinding wasn’t such a huge part of this game I wouldn’t mind so much but with the way the game plays now grinding can be extremely time consuming, unrewarding, and feel like a part time job. It seems like another massive over correction by SDS because a vocal minority claimed it was too easy and devaluing their cards.
Couldn't agree more. Rookie should just be a casual experience where you sit back and mash. Instead it's become a chore. Why oh why did they nerf the elevations? Ban those stadiums online if people were complaining.
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@DodgerMatt93_NSW said in CPU pitching:
I have played exclusively Rookie vs CPU this year and I’m mostly just punished when I’m not patient. Anything thrown out of the zone is usually VERY out of the zone. Being patient, especially with the first 2 pitches, is key. If you get up 2-0 there’s like a 90% chance the 3rd pitch will be a meatball down the middle.
When playing moments that are on Veteran, it’s very different. They no longer throw way outside the zone, balls tend to be just outside and strikes are almost always hitting the edge of the zone with minimal free meatballs down the middle. It tests your PCI control way more than Rookie.
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@palmerjones_PSN It is not the stadiums. Play at Coors, if you want. The CPU is too good (even on Rookie). I grinded the conquest maps on Rookie and had several 1-0 games with 2 hits (I play on HOF online)
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Yep online is one thing offline is a different story.
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@YOSHI24_XBL I think the 3 inning games can be tricky because of the small sample size. I’ve never remotely come close to losing a 9 inning vs CPU on Rookie, but the 3 inning games can get close. Sometimes Rookie can feel a bit scripted or rigged when it comes to the CPU hitters (eg. I have a no hitter and have struck out like 15 of 18 batters, then all the sudden they square up 3 hits in a row with a HR in there). The CPU tends to have these “get it out of their system” moments then goes back to striking out, and in a 3 inning game you can get a bad break if it happens and you’re not hitting well.
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@samguenther1987_PSN said in CPU pitching:
9 inning game against the CPU on ROOKIE, nothing but balls or dots on the black, this is just so unbelievable unfun so far this year. I just want to hit, I'm just so frustrated.
Bern a discussion for years. Play on Veteran. You'll hit more and score more runs. Nobody knows why but that's how it is. Rookie only means rookie in play vs CPU. In Conquest or Mini Season Rookie means 1-0 games or 1-0 extra inning games. You get more XP on Veteran too
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@DodgerMatt93_NSW Believe me, I grinded the heck out of 21, 22, 23 and 24. The CPU is way better on Rookie. I had close games in the recent games but there is a lot more this year … Comparing to 24, the CPU pitches way better. It had „very early/late“-releases all-the-time last year, which led to more meat balls and better contact for me … overall, I like it a little, but they should tone the skill a little down
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Who wants to sit through 9 pitch at bats... multiple times to complete a mission or scenario when you want to grind and get things done. I don't have the patience...that's my fault I know, but, honestly when you want to play and you just sit there over and over again experiencing this... eventually I just turn it off and think that was a totally unenjoyable waste of time...so unenjoyable that I quit out of boredom.
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@Ledfoot_19_PSN thanks for this...
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@DodgerMatt93_NSW said in CPU pitching:
I have played exclusively Rookie vs CPU this year and I’m mostly just punished when I’m not patient. Anything thrown out of the zone is usually VERY out of the zone. Being patient, especially with the first 2 pitches, is key. If you get up 2-0 there’s like a 90% chance the 3rd pitch will be a meatball down the middle.
This has not been remotely my experience at all, and one of my big issues with the game on any of the lower difficulties.
Hitters counts get dotted pitches just as often as pitchers counts.
Also commons or diamonds, it doesnt matter. Still dots.
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It's not just on rookie difficulty that it plays like this vs cpu. Veteran, All Star, and even Hall of Fame is pretty much the same. Cpu pitchers throwing balls way out of the strike zone not even close. Then when they do throw a strike It's a dot on the corners. It honestly makes the game feel super unrealistic and not fun.
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Baseball game players complaining about having to play baseball; story at 6.
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Even the pros don’t dot like that and we are talking about rookie difficulty here. If you want to battle thru 10 pitch at bats to get a pitch to hit against a bronze pitcher to complete a moment then good for you.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN then bump up the difficulty; it’ll even bump your PXP multiplier.
I mean, there is a certain logic that when playing Moments, the pitcher won’t just give cookies on every pitch. Can’t speak for Rookie, but let’s not pretend like Moments are a walk fest or “doting”.
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@yankblan_PSN lol...true story...you could see this one coming....but, would you have more fun playing 3 games an hour and having success or sit through 200 pitches that were unnecessary and maybe, not so realistic or nonsensical...IDK. That's the argument and the decision to make. Everyone will have a threshold and I guess we're all hoping to be heard and if there is a majority....then maybe some of our feedback will get some attention...?
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Except that sometimes they are, so let’s not pretend the CPU doesn’t throw 4 straight balls on a moment that requires a hit or fail. Or that the CPU doesn’t throw 2 or 3 balls way off the plate and then come back and dot 3 of the 4 corners. I’m not asking for a cookie down the middle just something semi hittable along the way. Raising difficulty doesn’t seem to have much effect on the CPU pitching other than speed and PCI size. Bottom line is the CPU pitching is extremely annoying the vast majority of the time and it has a negative impact on gameplay.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in CPU pitching:
Except that sometimes they are, so let’s not pretend the CPU doesn’t throw 4 straight balls on a moment that requires a hit or fail. Or that the CPU doesn’t throw 2 or 3 balls way off the plate and then come back and dot 3 of the 4 corners. I’m not asking for a cookie down the middle just something semi hittable along the way. Raising difficulty doesn’t seem to have much effect on the CPU pitching other than speed and PCI size. Bottom line is the CPU pitching is extremely annoying the vast majority of the time and it has a negative impact on gameplay.
The Moments have never been easier than the last 2 years since they introduced the concept. 95% of my fails are because I juuust missed the PCI sweet spot, the hitter has questionable power or after failing an X number of times I get impatient and start flailing. The CPU pitching is a problem on maybe 1% of the tries. The remaining 4% is because it’s way past bedtime or being wasted on a Friday night.
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