Backorders removed
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@Jacob151167_XBL said in Backorders removed:
@GradektheBard_PSN said in Backorders removed:
Let’s be clear, the OP was in OhChev’s twitch chat last night bragging about how he used his profits from these back orders to sell to 3rd party stub sites. He is mad because this change is costing him actual money (violating TOS).
Love to see it. If these people put as much effort into the actual stock market instead of a virtual video game where the currency has no actual value, they could probably make thousands. But hey, priorities.
My portfolio is solid.
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@aaronjw76_MLBTS I was on the fence this year and wish I hadn’t bought it. Not being able make stubs makes this game less fun for me. I’m not buying stubs. I’ll probably stop playing earlier than usual. We’ll see if they do something that brings me back next year.
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It’s a change that should have been made years ago, just like the minimum order values should be set to quick sell value + 10% so it’s impossible to net less stubs from a card sale after tax than the quick sell value. Yes, people should be able to figure out not to sell less than quick sell value after tax on their own but there’s no reason in the world to not just prohibit it. This change would also force “investors” into actually assuming some more risk when buying cards as currently, when their “investment” goes bust, they just quick sell to recover. With this change, they’d take a minimum 10% loss.
They should also make quick sell value be determined at the time that you acquire the card and not change based on attribute updates. That way, if you invest in a 80 gold at 400 and it gets updated to 84, you cannot just quick sell all of your inventory at 1500 and create 1100 new stubs out of thin air. Rather, if you want to sell at 1500, you’d have to actually sell it in the market to another person paying 1500 (or 1667 based on my other suggestion). Your quick sell value would remain at 400.
The overall market inflation caused by the quick sell value changing and creating new stubs out of thin air, instead of by actually playing the game, is far & away the least player friendly aspect of the game when it comes to rewarding people for playing the game. It makes it far more beneficial to spend your time not playing it. That’s just stupid.
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@RealPudgyPanda_MLBTS This would all make sense if there were better ways to make stubs by just playing the game.
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@GoozeFn_PSN said in Backorders removed:
@aaronjw76_MLBTS Same. I still have 10’s of millions in stubs and cards on my 24 account because of back orders. They are doing every single thing they can to ruin stub making, so people will buy stubs.
More than I think you would ever need so my question is "Why?"
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I think you will find that if you don’t worry about the market and just commit to grinding the game - The stubs will take care of themselves.
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@IrishFist412_MLBTS said in Backorders removed:
I think you will find that if you don’t worry about the market and just commit to grinding the game - The stubs will take care of themselves.
Hmmm. As an NMS "mega grinder" I have to say that yes it still works, but most everyone here is right.
SDS/Sony is definitely making it harder to grind for stubs. And I believe it is absolutely intentional.
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@IrishFist412_MLBTS said in Backorders removed:
I think you will find that if you don’t worry about the market and just commit to grinding the game - The stubs will take care of themselves.
I quit the game early every year as it just kind of gets boring so I like to grind for as many stubs as I can early on to get collections done and be able to try out any card I and my coop partner want. He doesn't flip as much as I do so it's nice to give him the opportunity to use whatever cards he would like to try because I'm usually flush with stubs.
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@aaronjw76_MLBTS exactly
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@mietha_PSN yet you have no problem with people being able to sell now cards for the same exact price as they quicksell for, and these people are losing 10% on the transaction. So if your gonna take out backorders you mind as well prevent any orders in the market from being placed below 10% above QSV
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@LIONED-33_XBL it's been in the game for the past 5 years. If it was such a exploit why didn't they eliminate it when it first came about
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@GoozeFn_PSN exactly. But the way they structure rewards in the game makes it to where you are rewarded more by not playing the game.
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@Dolenz_PSN I stopped trying to make stubs months before the game cycle was over. I still had thousands of back orders fulfilled after that. I always had more than enough stubs last year. It’s not easy to gauge what you’ll need through the end of the year in May. I certainly wasn’t trying to have so many extra stubs at the end of the year.
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@GoozeFn_PSN said in Backorders removed:
@Dolenz_PSN I stopped trying to make stubs months before the game cycle was over. I still had thousands of back orders fulfilled after that. I always had more than enough stubs last year. It’s not easy to gauge what you’ll need through the end of the year in May. I certainly wasn’t trying to have so many extra stubs at the end of the year.
I think a lot of us finished '24 with a ton of stubs. I kept thinking they would put out new, expensive cards to the marketplace but they never did.
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@dbub_PSN Yeah, I was pretty much buying everything as soon as it dropped and playing how I wanted to play. I’m already frustrated this year and don’t feel like I’ll be playing much longer. I’d like to play ranked, but I’m not going into it with a sub optimal team.
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@Blind_Bleeder_PSN said in Backorders removed:
If their purpose was to destroy the market and make everyone buy stubs, wouldn’t they just make all buys and sells at the QS price, or even worse, make all cards non sellable?
Awesome take … it is hillarious how people go crazy about this without thinking first.
I made stubs too with that but being angry and blaming SDS for „taking their method away to make stubs“ is crazy.
I would not call it an exploit but I get that this should have never been possible in the first place -
Well this is a bummer quciksell cards would fulfill the order and was the best way to predict future player increases
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I don't agree with SDS trying to kill the market, the market now seems to be the same to me as the start of any other year
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@PAinPA_PSN said in Backorders removed:
I don't agree with SDS trying to kill the market, the market now seems to be the same to me as the start of any other year
Take it from those of us who know... it's not.
I've had collections done by now with another 500K in the bank to flip with. I'm still 700K away from having it done and will have nothing in the bank to flip with when complete.
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@Kah-glizzy_PSN Actually, I do have a problem with that, but I also understand that's a much harder fix to code. The simple solution would be to remove the tax, but we know they're not going to do that.
