Can someone please explain the lack of face scans this year?
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I’ll give u a complete list of face scans that should’ve been added last year. After that I’ll make a list of players that should’ve been added this year. It’s literally the same exact game with a roster update from last year. They gave a few guys with face scans new ones (about time) and added some really random players.
Players that should’ve been added to the game last year. Most have been playing for 2 years or most of last year.
Tyler Fitzgerald !!! (SF)
Ryan walker !!! (SF)
Hayden birdsong !!! (SF)
Colt Keith !!! (DET)
Wenceel Perez !!! (Det)
Tyler Holton !!! (Det)
Beau brieske !!! (Det)
Brant hurter (det)
Casey Schmidt (sf)
Bowden Francis!!! (Tor)
Addison barger (tor)
Joey loperfido (tor)
Jake latz (Tex)
Brett Harris (ath)
Connor norby !!! (MIA)
Dominic canzone (sea)
Ben Joyce!!!! (LAA)
Johnny Brito (SD)
JOSE SORIANO!!! (LAA)
Gregory santos (sea)
Justin slaten!!!! (BOS)
Josh h smith !!! (Tex) been playing consistently for 3 years….
Kyle Nicolas (pit)Players that should’ve been added this year. (Includes the whole list above)
Jace Jung !!!! (det)
Will Wagner (tor)
Matt Shaw !!!!! (CHC)
Cody Bradford (Tex)
Cade Marlowe (sea)
Luke little (chc)
Brendon little (tor)
Christian Scott (nym)
Robert gasser (mil)
Brandon sproat (nym)
Ricky tiedamann (tor)
Cade Horton (chc)
Jake bloss (tor)
Justin wrobleski !!! (LAD)
Jonathan aranda (TB)
Austin Shenton (TB)
Thomas Harrington (pit)
Bubba chandler !!! (Pit)
Braxton Ashcraft (pit)
Jared beck (col)
John cannon (cws)
Drew Thorpe (cws)
Hunter Goodman (col)
Caden Dana !!! (LAA)
Quinn Matthews (stl)
Slade cecconi (cle)
Erik sabrowski !!! (cle)
Joey cantillo !!!! ( cle)
Angel Martinez (cle)
Bryce Jarvis (az)
Nick sogard (Bos)
Niko kavadis (LAA)
Emmanuel Rodriguez (min)
Mitchell Parker (wsh)
DJ herz (wsh)
Jack kohanowitz (LAA)
Chase dollander (col)
Thomas white (mia)
Dedniel Nunez (nym)
Keider montero (det)
Yariel Rodriguez (tor)
Luis Guerrero (bos)
Eduardo Henriquez (lad)
Andres chaparo (wsh)
Hyeu seong Kim (lad)
Kyle hurt (lad)
Landon knack (lad)
River Ryan (lad)
T. Sugano (bal)
Jaden hill (Col)
Christian Moore (LAA)
Cam smith (hou)
Chase burns (cin)
Ryan bliss (sea)
Darren baker (wsh)
Kristian Campbell (bos)
Drake Baldwin (alt)
B. Montgomery (alt?)
Brooks Baldwin (cws)
Seth halvorsen (Col)
Adrian del Castillo (az)I could go on but yall get the point. I know there’s a chance they can be added this year but it just doesn’t seem like they didn’t do much with the graphics this year. It’s a roster update with a few new face scans on older players who were well due. They did give us some new face scans like Troy Taylor, Porter hodge, Max Sheumann, Jacob Wilson, etc. I very much appreciate that but it seems like u guys don’t give the “irrelevant teams” face scans and yall thought Detroit was “irrelevant” and they made the playoffs. Half their team still doesn’t have face scans… and before you say “theyre in the game”. If it’s not a face scan, they’re not in the game. Too many bugs on the “created players” no pitchers can throw sinkers over 92, no change ups over 84, etc…. and it’s just not realistic. Why can’t we get the dru jones, max Clark’s, walker jenkins, Bryce Eldridge’s but we can get the kellon Lindsay’s, and Caleb lomavitas? Why add Thomas hatch, max Schumann, Alex call and Johnny Pereda but none of the much better players on the lists above? It’s all we have left as franchise players and that realism is leaving and it’s just become a card game…..please give more effort for us non DD players
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You do realize that they only do face scans during spring training (unless the player travels to the studio during the season)and that it up to the player to have it done and it's not mandatory so the player can say no?
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Check the posts I tagged you in @Shua2168_MLBTS
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@PAinPA_PSN some people don’t realize that this isn’t a 15 man roster for each team like the NBA. Each roster on the show consists of 93 players so the level of difficulty for SDS to get scans for every player in this game is unimaginably difficult and as you said the players have to be willing. They are better than any other sports game when it comes adding scans throughout the year and getting them added in during the offseason. 2K you could argue is better but it’s much easier due to the roster sizes.
Do I wish more players especially younger ones got added in sooner? Of course. But SDS does way more than people realize when it comes to scans. You can back date on my account on old posts and see all the scans added/updated in 24 as proof. And now my posts to kick off 25 that will only grow as the months move on.
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@Shua2168_MLBTS they also don’t just pick and choose random players that they do or don’t wanna add in. Efforts are made to get as many players added in as possible but it all comes down to the players at the end of the day. The players have to be willing to get scanned in and sometimes it’s about right or wrong timing during Spring Training. Yes it’s frustrating so many young players are missing scans but there were a boat load added in after release last year. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that be the case again this year.
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Maybe they need to change their approach then if it's not efficient. That's generally what businesses do or else they die. In this case SDS is fortunate they don't have any competition but that could change if they keep releasing the same abomination every year. Some of the player models in this game are downright insulting. Bones protruding out of their face, smiles that only a mother could love...I'd estimate the player models are at least 10 years behind. Shouldn't have to get players in studio either with where technology is at nowdays. A couple of pictures from a couple different angles and consent is really all they should need. Can it be complicated logistically? Absolutely. But let's not pretend like it's some monumental unattainable task. Other games been pulling it off better for a long time now.
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And also this notion that they can only accomplish a face scan during spring training is complete absurdity. What's stopping them from sending a rep to a game and snapping some some pictures? Or just using existing pictures from MLB footage? Think outside this box. I see this constant rhetoric of "SDS only had 8 months to develop the game" and it's nonsense. Development should be a constant process this game is a live service.
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I completely agree with a lot of that. Why they only scan players in during Spring Training never made much sense to me. And then those Spring Training scans don’t get added in until the following year makes it even more confusing. So for context those scanned in during this current spring training we won’t get them in game until the Show 26. I’m not saying it’s a monumental task to get players scanned but it’s harder than you and I realize. I’ve complained about it for years and years, and I take pride in this area of games more than most. But they can’t just refer to technology to get scans as convenient as that would be, and as much sense as that would make.
They have to get the player’s approval and consent to use their likeness. A big reason why 2K sports hasn’t had Ant Edwards in 2K. He’s never been willing to come get scanned and never wanted to be in their game. That’s eventually just led to someone from 2K trying to make the closest scan possible to resembling him.
The one thing I agree most on is the player models. The creation suites and things like that are so far out of date it’s not even funny. We’ve had the same hairstyles for the most part, facial hair options, head styles, etc for WAY TOO many years with no signs of that ever getting improvement.
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@PAinPA_PSN said in Can someone please explain the lack of face scans this year?:
You do realize that they only do face scans during spring training (unless the player travels to the studio during the season)and that it up to the player to have it done and it's not mandatory so the player can say no?
Does anybody wanna tell him Mike Trout didn’t let them have his real face in the game until like 2019?
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That's a lot of work checking out those without face scans. Keep up the good work, lol.
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@Jayseearr_PSN said in Can someone please explain the lack of face scans this year?:
And also this notion that they can only accomplish a face scan during spring training is complete absurdity. What's stopping them from sending a rep to a game and snapping some some pictures?
Now maybe the technology has changed (it probably has seeing as how fast technology improves) but the MLBPA had an article from 2019 stating that to get the face/head scans required a 360 degree setup with 46 cameras.
So not something you just say "Fly across country, we have a couple of players on an east coast team than needs face scans." Maybe if the team is playing the Padres in San Diego then maybe. It is certainly more involved than snapping a few pictures.
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It requires a 360 degree setup with 46 cameras? Somehow that sounds improbable to me. My guess is whatever software and technology they were using in 2019 was outdated then and archaic now, like all the other systems in their game. Explain to me why we need a 360 degree view when none of the back or side their heads look realistic anyway? I mean come on have we seen the hair models? Manny's dreads look like a woman's hair from a 2018 game and STILL are somehow not optimized 8 years later and causing frame drops like what on earth are we talking about. There are plenty of games with more realistic models that use ZERO face scan technology. And you mean to tell me they are taking all these pictures from every angle imaginable and STILL ended up with models that look this bad? If anything that just strengthens my original point about it being inefficient and needing to change.
Mlb already has existing high quality footage of 99% of these guys...Can you explain to me why we can't use that instead of pestering players and expecting them to fly across the world just to be in your game? Get real. Paying a couple employee's plane tickets to go to a game and set up a little tent is a small expense for a company like this, especially if it means significantly improving their product. If you go the right games you can probably knock out multiple players on multiple teams.
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@DTC1313_PSN I'm not sure I believe that since they make sure to have their player cards in inventory and DD. Updated ones as well, so if they have the players cards they can easily use that for reference instead of a rendered character. They only care about DD and the rest theyre just lazy on.
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I don’t disagree as far as what they prioritize and what they care about. It’s the same for every sports gaming company. They care only about micro transactions and you spending more and more money on the game post release.
Them having the DD cards updated with new pictures means nothing. They still have to get the players to come in for scans and the players have to want to do it. If you had modding capabilities on PS5 you’d see much more authentic player creations for players that don’t have scans like you see on NBA 2K for PC for example. My biggest complaint would be why do the new scans not get uploaded until the following year’s game. Never made sense to me. You get a bunch of players added in or updated in ST 25’ but why do those scans have to wait until MLB 26’.. just makes no sense
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@DTC1313_PSN half the time they don’t even make it to next years game. It’s pathetic. Was expecting a lot of players that debuted in 23 or last year and they still aren’t in the game.
