How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion)
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
#1- Go back to the old way of finishing Innings/Programs, where you could either get (for example) X amount of XBH, X amount of K's, X amount of RBI, X amount of HR in H2H/Ranked OR double those amounts in vs CPU modes.
As long as it is not a grind like it was in '18.
There is nothing that I really enjoy about always playing with a lineup of players I could not care less about for weeks at a time to just to earn a another card I may want, especially at the beginning of the year when it is grinding those stats with lesser cards.
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How to "save" MLB the Show? This is by no means an original thought, but how about start by capping ratings in all categories at 99 (which would actually make a 99 card something special). Once you've got that, nerf the [censored] sliders so 30% of all hits are not HRs (Joey Gallo is only one man); if someone has less than 90 power, they should need pretty close to perfect placement just under the ball and at least good timing to send it out, as only about 10% of fly balls end up being home runs in the real game.
Game play should be the focus, and that focus should primarily be on improved, simulated physics and a more realistic distribution of hits. Game modes and everything else is gravy.
And the opening cinematics for the new game should feature someone dropping a bomb on Shield Woods park, followed by the smooth vocal stylings of Bob Kendrick explaining how everyone who chose to play in that park is a terrible person and how its inclusion was a mistake that will never happen again.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
"Guarantee it is!"
"Guarantee it's not!"
Lol, really. 2K released different versions of NBA last time I bought it -- a few years ago when current gen was next gen.
I "guarantee" that if there is a current gen, they're not abandoning the last gen. Too much $.
GUARANTEED, lol.
Remember when people guaranteed McGwire and Sosa would never be in the game?
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How to save MLB The Show
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Put pitcher pitch mix on the screen. That way your opponent can see it and doesn't have to hit R2 after EVERY F'N pitch.
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Get rid of high elevation stadiums, except Coors Field, in H2H play. No more Shield Woods and Laughing Mountain.
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DONT ALLOW CREATED STADIUMS IN H2H PLAY!
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@Capt-Clutch-2K24_PSN disagree on created stadiums , just make sure the dimensions meet a realistic minimum.
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@The_Joneser_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
Game play should be the focus, and that focus should primarily be on improved, simulated physics and a more realistic distribution of hits.
Which mode are we talking about here. Franchise with a live roster or Diamond Dynasty with dream teams?
There is always going to be a debate over whether this game is a simulation or an arcade game. Personally, I'd put DD more in the arcade category.
People don't play DD to hit singles with Ozzie Smith or someone like Keith Hernandez. There is a reason people choose Trea Turner and Lindor over Smith. Why they would choose Harper or Freeman over Hernandez.
People want to hit HRs. Shoot there is a reason we see several people every year complain about the HR counter being reset after 255 HRs in RTTS.
There has always been two camps with this game. Those who want an even more realistic simulation and those who just want to get on the game and smash with their favorite players. There is no path SDS can take that will ever 100% satisfy both groups.
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After each player picks their pitcher let us see them so we can make any lineup changes we want on the lineup screen instead of having to do it in game.
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@Belli_bomb_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
After each player picks their pitcher let us see them so we can make any lineup changes we want on the lineup screen instead of having to do it in game.
would be less fun … and some guys here told us, that it was in the game … being an awful thing, so it was dropped
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@YOSHI24_MLBTS said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
@Belli_bomb_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
After each player picks their pitcher let us see them so we can make any lineup changes we want on the lineup screen instead of having to do it in game.
would be less fun … and some guys here told us, that it was in the game … being an awful thing, so it was dropped
Cause they'll play 9 RHB if it's LHP and vice versa. They could just play nine switch hitters though.
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@Belli_bomb_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
After each player picks their pitcher let us see them so we can make any lineup changes we want on the lineup screen instead of having to do it in game.
It used to be in.
People would stack their lineups with lefties and if they came up against a leftie pitcher they simply backed out of the game and were never being penalized for it. It wastes the time of the other player and is just a cheap tactic.
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Seems the easy solution is to allow us to set a lineup vs L and one vs R
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@TeakAUS_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
Seems the easy solution is to allow us to set a lineup vs L and one vs R
They had that. People used to back out, without any negative impact, if they didn't get an advantage.
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@TeakAUS_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
Seems the easy solution is to allow us to set a lineup vs L and one vs R
The question you gotta ask is why does somebody want it? I would really love to know if Nolan Ryan is on the bump for my opponent … But on the other hand: it is much more fun not knowing and taking on the challenge, if I see it. If then I want to platoon … it is up to me.
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Don't these types of players just load up on switch hitters now?
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@xRatedGProdigyx_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
Don't these types of players just load up on switch hitters now?
On average a typical god squad consists of 6-7 … I encountered a few all-switch-hitter-lineup recently. Most of them have at least 3 switch-hitters on the bench.
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I didn't spend a single dime in 24 . This year I plan on purchasing stubs equal to game price even though it's probably free on game pass , I think its fair . But if they get rid of created stadiums. I ain't paying nothing .
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At this point most of the best hitters/swings are switch hitters anyway
Ketel, jram, mantle, Reynolds, lindor, Adley(pop time), posada, etc
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@Dolenz64_XBL, I am talking about DD. I wouldn't disagree with your take that it's closer to the arcade side of things, but I would argue that it shouldn't be; every video game will and probably should exaggerate the most exciting elements, but the deluge of home runs in this game is well past the point of being ridiculous. Might as well have flames trailing the ball when it leaves the bat.
I think you're generalizing a bit... there are also people who like the pitching and defensive side of things. The current model emphasizes hitting (and, again, only power) to the point where pitching becomes almost irrelevant, and I'd argue that the game would be far more interesting if great pitchers were also given their due; we wouldn't all face the same four guys (who offer the only chance of keeping an ERA below 5.00) if every facet of the game wasn't tamped down so there could be more home runs for the unimaginative. How many games have you played where you've given up 6 hits and 5 of them were long balls? I'm saying that needs to be tempered. You can still emphasize home runs and pepper the game with them, but they shouldn't be the only thing that works.
People don't use singles hitters because hitting singles doesn't work. People want to win, and you cannot win games the way things are set up because singles hitters do not hit singles consistently; they fly out. That can be fixed, and if things were changed so singles hitters not only hit singles, but hit more singles than power hitters hit home runs, that might change.
You're right that SDS can't please everyone, but considering that their game is a baseball game, it should play more like a baseball game. They won't lose customers by improving their physics models.
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@The_Joneser_PSN said in How to Save MLB The Show (In My Opinion):
@Dolenz64_XBL, I am talking about DD. I wouldn't disagree with your take that it's closer to the arcade side of things, but I would argue that it shouldn't be; every video game will and probably should exaggerate the most exciting elements, but the deluge of home runs in this game is well past the point of being ridiculous. Might as well have flames trailing the ball when it leaves the bat.
I think you're generalizing a bit... there are also people who like the pitching and defensive side of things. The current model emphasizes hitting (and, again, only power) to the point where pitching becomes almost irrelevant, and I'd argue that the game would be far more interesting if great pitchers were also given their due; we wouldn't all face the same four guys (who offer the only chance of keeping an ERA below 5.00) if every facet of the game wasn't tamped down so there could be more home runs for the unimaginative. How many games have you played where you've given up 6 hits and 5 of them were long balls? I'm saying that needs to be tempered. You can still emphasize home runs and pepper the game with them, but they shouldn't be the only thing that works.
People don't use singles hitters because hitting singles doesn't work. People want to win, and you cannot win games the way things are set up because singles hitters do not hit singles consistently; they fly out. That can be fixed, and if things were changed so singles hitters not only hit singles, but hit more singles than power hitters hit home runs, that might change.
You're right that SDS can't please everyone, but considering that their game is a baseball game, it should play more like a baseball game. They won't lose customers by improving their physics models.
I agree with the notion that at least 1 out of 2 hits is a long ball. But when you allow made up high elevation fields (Shield Woods, Laughing Mt, etc) and cheap created stadiums like Costco into online mode; you'll have that outcome.
What I would've loved to see, and I doubt SDS would've provided the data, is how many of the homeruns listed on our report cards came from these cheap stadiums.
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The only „data“ (and not personal guesses) we have is from SDS …. https://x.com/mlbtheshow/status/1869428253385220184?s=61&t=EHF_WX3TnZlVu7MUvxi8Ng
From that, 1/3 of the hits are HR