Juan soto is a met
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thoughts?
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Not worth the money
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For an average of $51 million per year and being a bad defender in both left and right field, the Mets drastically overpaid. The thing that saves Soto is that great bat.
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Money means nothing to anyone but the owner. And they all have plenty of it. Good deal. And I hate everything NY lol
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@xsdert34_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
For an average of $51 million per year and being a bad defender in both left and right field, the Mets drastically overpaid. The thing that saves Soto is that great bat.
Bobby Bonilla 2.0
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@xsdert34_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
For an average of $51 million per year and being a bad defender in both left and right field, the Mets drastically overpaid. The thing that saves Soto is that great bat.
These mega deals work out fewer times than they bust. There's a really good reason for this. When you devote such a huge percentage of your team resources on just one player, you're rolling the dice. One play, injury, and your investment suddenly craters for the season, and you don't have the money to replace the talent lost.
Of course, Met's owner Steve Cohen is one of the richest men in the world, and worth an estimated $20 billion. Still, this man just bestowed about one-twentieth of his wealth to one person paid out over 15 years. There are a great many players who can hit 30 homers, with an OBA of .400. They can be signed for about $15 million a year. You can in theory field four of those players for the price of Soto.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Juan soto is a met:
There are a great many players who can hit 30 homers, with an OBA of .400.
There were 2 players who accomplished that last year, Judge and Soto
There were 5 players in 2023 (Acuna, Ohtani, Soto, Betts, Judge)
There were 3 in 2022 (Judge, Alverez, Goldschmidt)
There were 2 in 2021 (Harper and Guerrero)So there are not a great many players who can do that.
I still think they overpaid. It will be an albatross of a contract long before it ends.
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As a yankees fan, I am disappointed but 760 million is way too much for one person, we already have Judge in a long term contract. I dont know if Spencer Jones should have a chance to join the MLB but i want to see him play with Judge and Stanton before the both of them get old. The Yankees should focus on pitching and maybe trade for Bellinger to replace Rizzo, or even get Pete Alonso. One thing I hated about Cashman, he focuses on one person and completely forgets that there are other players until to the last minute.
PS I would laugh if the Mets pull a Verlander and Scherzer again.
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Im a huge giants fan. im sad that posey couldn't sign him because he would be a great help, but I don't think we would have been willing to pay almost 800 million for just one player until 2040. I haven't even seen any reports on the giants meeting with him.
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@dbub_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Just glad he's not a Yankee or Dodger.
THANK GOD HES NOT A DODGER
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@blu_birdie43_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Im a huge giants fan. im sad that posey couldn't sign him because he would be a great help, but I don't think we would have been willing to pay almost 800 million for just one player until 2040. I haven't even seen any reports on the giants meeting with him.
Also a big Giants fan. The reports I'd seen seemed to indicate the Giants didn't really have him in their plans. But he's not the only player out there and from the looks of things, Buster Posey is heading down a good path starting with the signing of Willy Adames. (Still can't believe Posey's behind a desk now instead of being behind the plate only a few years ago.)
@blu_birdie43_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
@dbub_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Just glad he's not a Yankee or Dodger.
THANK GOD HES NOT A DODGER
And yes. Thank the Lord he's not a Dodger. Or a Yankee. Though having him in the National League is bad enough.
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@beatlesnews_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Or a Yankee
I honestly wouldn't mind if he went back to the yankees
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I thought i would be more upset about him leaving than i am really. The more i think about it, hes a defensive liability, he's not a threat on the bases. The Mets really paid 50 million a year for a DH. yeah he'll help the next few years but once he hits his mid 30s halfway through the contract and Father Time catches up to him, they'll be paying 50 million a year for subpar numbers.
Hal just showed he was willing to throw ridiculous amounts of money at one guy....he needs to keep that checkbook open and keep that same energy for every other name on the market now.
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I have a feeling the money isn't going to be worth nearly what it is today in about five years. So it probably isn't an overpay. Also the Mets are not going to be hamstrung by it even if it does turn out to be a sour deal because the owner seems to have plenty of it.
I am a Dodger fan and the only reason I wanted him was because it makes fans of other teams sad.
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@theBlindRhino_PSN in five years somebody is gonna get paid a billion for the next 20 years.
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@beatlesnews_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
@blu_birdie43_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Im a huge giants fan. im sad that posey couldn't sign him because he would be a great help, but I don't think we would have been willing to pay almost 800 million for just one player until 2040. I haven't even seen any reports on the giants meeting with him.
Also a big Giants fan. The reports I'd seen seemed to indicate the Giants didn't really have him in their plans. But he's not the only player out there and from the looks of things, Buster Posey is heading down a good path starting with the signing of Willy Adames. (Still can't believe Posey's behind a desk now instead of being behind the plate only a few years ago.)
@blu_birdie43_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
@dbub_PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
Just glad he's not a Yankee or Dodger.
THANK GOD HES NOT A DODGER
And yes. Thank the Lord he's not a Dodger. Or a Yankee. Though having him in the National League is bad enough.
It's not that big a deal. The Mets WAY overpaid for him and contract size doesn't improve a player's talent level. If anything, a huge contract actually lowers a players productivity due to the pressures of performing up to the gargantuan contract value, or because the player relaxes having earned his big pay day.
Think of it this way. Two years ago, Matt Olson belted 54 homers, drove in 139 RBI, scored 127 runs, and earned an OPS of .993.
Last season, Juan Soto's career was: 41 homers, 109 RBI, 128 runs scored, and an OPS of .989.
Moreover, Olson plays a much harder defensive position at first base and has earned two Gold Glove awards. His defensive range factor per game was 7.96 two seasons ago and improved to 8.42 last season. His two GC years were 9.18 and 8.76. So, he's not far off those two high water marks. Juan Soto is a below average defensive outfielder. Last season, it was only 2.33, and the year before that an even lower 2.06. To put into perspective, a Gold Glove earning outfielder's RF/G would be about 2.96.
In short, Matt Olson earns $15 million a season. He produces better offensive numbers year in and year out than does Soto, and is a much better defensive player playing a much more difficult defensive position.
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@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN said in Juan soto is a met:
I thought i would be more upset about him leaving than i am really. The more i think about it, hes a defensive liability, he's not a threat on the bases. The Mets really paid 50 million a year for a DH. yeah he'll help the next few years but once he hits his mid 30s halfway through the contract and Father Time catches up to him, they'll be paying 50 million a year for subpar numbers.
Kind of the same thing with Ohtani. Big money for declining numbers as he gets older.
