BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@abbyspapa said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
Do you want to give some of us any hope
Should good players be tapered because outcomes at AS difficulty are inconsistent? In a 3 inning game, those good/okays and weak singles matter a lot more.
If AS played consistently like HOF, it wouldn’t be a problem, but randomness in 3 inning games can ruin an entire run. I’ve already lost 2 flawless runs because of good/okay fly balls. Yeah, the 12 win rewards help for LS collections, but you’re essentially missing out on another 150k+ stubs because of inconsistencies. I’ve just been running the event hoping to get decent rewards because I strongly prefer HOF gameplay
You answered your own question.
Randomness in BR makes it more difficult for even above average players to go 12-0 over and over again.
It also allows average players to believe they have a chance and keep spending the stubs trying.
If you had a mode where input was rewarded more, the same people would keep winning the flawless rewards over and over again.
It's marketed and set up to encourage the maximum amount of players to believe they can do it. Pretty plain to see.
Just kind of annoying that your flawless run can come down to those variables. I didn’t have issues with flawless runs in the past editions, and I know it’ll happen eventually, but I can only take so much randomness at a time. At least the event is enjoyable. I’m trying to finish up the last few teams I need for Sheffield/mantle before hopping back in, and I’ll probably snag Nen too.
Sheffield and Mantle especially are cards players like me will never see. I am struggling to do 2nd inning show down so I stay away from BR already knowing that
I see. Hitting wise what are you using? I know for a lot of people (myself included), my game changed astronomically once I got the hang of zone and SZ cam (been using it since 16).
I use zoom and directional with buttons.
I have zero success with PCI. -
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@abbyspapa said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
Do you want to give some of us any hope
Should good players be tapered because outcomes at AS difficulty are inconsistent? In a 3 inning game, those good/okays and weak singles matter a lot more.
If AS played consistently like HOF, it wouldn’t be a problem, but randomness in 3 inning games can ruin an entire run. I’ve already lost 2 flawless runs because of good/okay fly balls. Yeah, the 12 win rewards help for LS collections, but you’re essentially missing out on another 150k+ stubs because of inconsistencies. I’ve just been running the event hoping to get decent rewards because I strongly prefer HOF gameplay
You answered your own question.
Randomness in BR makes it more difficult for even above average players to go 12-0 over and over again.
It also allows average players to believe they have a chance and keep spending the stubs trying.
If you had a mode where input was rewarded more, the same people would keep winning the flawless rewards over and over again.
It's marketed and set up to encourage the maximum amount of players to believe they can do it. Pretty plain to see.
Just kind of annoying that your flawless run can come down to those variables. I didn’t have issues with flawless runs in the past editions, and I know it’ll happen eventually, but I can only take so much randomness at a time. At least the event is enjoyable. I’m trying to finish up the last few teams I need for Sheffield/mantle before hopping back in, and I’ll probably snag Nen too.
Sheffield and Mantle especially are cards players like me will never see. I am struggling to do 2nd inning show down so I stay away from BR already knowing that
I see. Hitting wise what are you using? I know for a lot of people (myself included), my game changed astronomically once I got the hang of zone and SZ cam (been using it since 16).
I use zoom and directional with buttons.
I have zero success with PCI.You should keep practicing zone, once you get the hang of it and strike zone cam, the results become so much better because you have so much more control and adjustability. I used to go on legend against syndergaard in 16 and just track pitches with the pci, then once I felt comfortable I started trying to hit. It actually happens pretty quickly once you get comfy with it.
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Ok forgive me if I got this wrong but, are you asking BR to be on HOF difficulty because AS has too much random outcome,, and you are hitting with directional?
I mean, I’m actually speechless.
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@halfbutt said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
Ok forgive me if I got this wrong but, are you asking BR to be on HOF difficulty because AS has too much random outcome,, and you are hitting with directional?
I mean, I’m actually speechless.
Excuse me? Can you read? I use zone and strike zone camera. I’m speechless that you can’t read sentences. I legitimately offered the guy using directional advice on how to use zone.
Either you’re trying to troll or you’re just clueless.
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I want to preface this by saying I completely understand where you're coming from and I'd be 100% fine if BR was on HoF. But the event is already on HoF and people are constantly complaining that they have to win a couple games on all star at the start of a new ranked season.
There needs to be stuff to do for those of us that can't hit on HoF. I was mostly on board with HoF being default on events last year, but with this year's pitch speeds and tiny pci there's just no way.
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They need one pitch speed, period.
Make pitching harder by making the "green" section of analog smaller
Make the PCI super small if you need to when you get to higher levelsThe pitch speed changes are just stupid
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@abbyspapa said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
Do you want to give some of us any hope
Should good players be tapered because outcomes at AS difficulty are inconsistent? In a 3 inning game, those good/okays and weak singles matter a lot more.
If AS played consistently like HOF, it wouldn’t be a problem, but randomness in 3 inning games can ruin an entire run. I’ve already lost 2 flawless runs because of good/okay fly balls. Yeah, the 12 win rewards help for LS collections, but you’re essentially missing out on another 150k+ stubs because of inconsistencies. I’ve just been running the event hoping to get decent rewards because I strongly prefer HOF gameplay
You answered your own question.
Randomness in BR makes it more difficult for even above average players to go 12-0 over and over again.
It also allows average players to believe they have a chance and keep spending the stubs trying.
If you had a mode where input was rewarded more, the same people would keep winning the flawless rewards over and over again.
It's marketed and set up to encourage the maximum amount of players to believe they can do it. Pretty plain to see.
Just kind of annoying that your flawless run can come down to those variables. I didn’t have issues with flawless runs in the past editions, and I know it’ll happen eventually, but I can only take so much randomness at a time. At least the event is enjoyable. I’m trying to finish up the last few teams I need for Sheffield/mantle before hopping back in RS, and I’ll probably snag Nen too.
You didn’t have any issues before? Have you played previous installments ? 18 particularly? Those variables were alive and well then too
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@Crimson_Monk said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@abbyspapa said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
Do you want to give some of us any hope
Should good players be tapered because outcomes at AS difficulty are inconsistent? In a 3 inning game, those good/okays and weak singles matter a lot more.
If AS played consistently like HOF, it wouldn’t be a problem, but randomness in 3 inning games can ruin an entire run. I’ve already lost 2 flawless runs because of good/okay fly balls. Yeah, the 12 win rewards help for LS collections, but you’re essentially missing out on another 150k+ stubs because of inconsistencies. I’ve just been running the event hoping to get decent rewards because I strongly prefer HOF gameplay
You answered your own question.
Randomness in BR makes it more difficult for even above average players to go 12-0 over and over again.
It also allows average players to believe they have a chance and keep spending the stubs trying.
If you had a mode where input was rewarded more, the same people would keep winning the flawless rewards over and over again.
It's marketed and set up to encourage the maximum amount of players to believe they can do it. Pretty plain to see.
Just kind of annoying that your flawless run can come down to those variables. I didn’t have issues with flawless runs in the past editions, and I know it’ll happen eventually, but I can only take so much randomness at a time. At least the event is enjoyable. I’m trying to finish up the last few teams I need for Sheffield/mantle before hopping back in RS, and I’ll probably snag Nen too.
You didn’t have any issues before? Have you played previous installments ? 18 particularly? Those variables were alive and well then too
I never bring up 18 because that game was an absolute abomination. I stopped playing after like 2-3 months . It was awful.
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100 mph was like 75 mph in MLB '18
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@NDStew_32 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
They need one pitch speed, period.
Make pitching harder by making the "green" section of analog smaller
Make the PCI super small if you need to when you get to higher levelsThe pitch speed changes are just stupid
I agree 100%, universal pitch speeds would be solid. I think HOF’s would be ideal, then just adjust pci sizing as you go up.
But that isn’t what makes all-star unbearable. It’s just the randomness and good input being neutered.
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
I still don’t get why BR isn’t on HOF difficulty. The game plays so much better at HOF than all-star, and with the rewards that are attainable, you’d think they’d want it to be more difficult. All-Star is seriously unbearable between good input being tapered down with the massive pcis causing good/okay feedback on practically perfect placement, and bad input being rewarded with flailing foul tips and soft singles when they’re very early or late. HOF rewards good input so much more and punishes bad input. Hopefully SDS considers this for the future.
Never happen. Less people would play. I agree with you but it will never happen because of that simple fact. Less money = less stubs spent.
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If this were 19 I would %100 agree that br needs to be on HOF, but not this year. Playing the event I have gotten so bored of it being just wait for the first person to hit a homerun and win 1-0.
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@Vermen said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
If this were 19 I would %100 agree that br needs to be on HOF, but not this year. Playing the event I have gotten so bored of it being just wait for the first person to hit a homerun and win 1-0.
I’m not having that issue on the event at all. I’ve played 100 event games, and I keep playing them to grab rewards and because the gameplay is so much more enjoyable. You can keep people off balance pitching wise, and good input is rewarded so much more from a hitting standpoint,
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I prefer All-Star pitch speed due to the sinker issue on HOF+
There is a very small % of the play base that can time those things up consistently. I don't want the game made for them. If we get smaller PCI's up there then the pitch speed won't matter as much it'll be more on PCI placement.
So for me I want more time to react but have more of an impact on PCI placement.
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@NDStew_32 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
I prefer All-Star pitch speed due to the sinker issue on HOF+
There is a very small % of the play base that can time those things up consistently. I don't want the game made for them. If we get smaller PCI's up there then the pitch speed won't matter as much it'll be more on PCI placement.
So for me I want more time to react but have more of an impact on PCI placement.
I agree that the sinker is quick, but 99% of players throw sinkers in the same locations (RHPs: up and away to lefties, down and in to righties, LHPs: down and in to lefties, up and away to righties), people get very predictable, and I can make a quick decision if the pitch is a sinker and take the PCI there. It’s not overly difficult for me personally because I study people patterns. I think that’s why I don’t mind facing kluber at all.
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Vermen said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
If this were 19 I would %100 agree that br needs to be on HOF, but not this year. Playing the event I have gotten so bored of it being just wait for the first person to hit a homerun and win 1-0.
I’m not having that issue on the event at all. I’ve played 100 event games, and I keep playing them to grab rewards and because the gameplay is so much more enjoyable. You can keep people off balance pitching wise, and good input is rewarded so much more from a hitting standpoint,
I win %75 of my event games as well but they are still boring - you face Kluber\Pearson with Chapman coming out of the pen and the hitters we have currently dont have the vision for decent pci's which make for a strikeout fest. It may be working out for you but for the vast majority it doesnt. I have played 100 event games as well and with a few outliers the scores are often 1-0 2-0. Most casuals wont even attempt it due to the pitch speeds and tiny pci's
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Vermen said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
If this were 19 I would %100 agree that br needs to be on HOF, but not this year. Playing the event I have gotten so bored of it being just wait for the first person to hit a homerun and win 1-0.
I’m not having that issue on the event at all. I’ve played 100 event games, and I keep playing them to grab rewards and because the gameplay is so much more enjoyable. You can keep people off balance pitching wise, and good input is rewarded so much more from a hitting standpoint,
Because you're in the top 5 to 10% of players in the game. For the rest of us this event is basically sell out on high fastballs and pray we guessed right and can get around on it in time.
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@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@NDStew_32 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
I prefer All-Star pitch speed due to the sinker issue on HOF+
There is a very small % of the play base that can time those things up consistently. I don't want the game made for them. If we get smaller PCI's up there then the pitch speed won't matter as much it'll be more on PCI placement.
So for me I want more time to react but have more of an impact on PCI placement.
I agree that the sinker is quick, but 99% of players throw sinkers in the same locations (RHPs: up and away to lefties, down and in to righties, LHPs: down and in to lefties, up and away to righties), people get very predictable, and I can make a quick decision if the pitch is a sinker and take the PCI there. It’s not overly difficult for me personally because I study people patterns. I think that’s why I don’t mind facing kluber at all.
The problem is the way it comes out of the hand, drives me insane. I don't mind 4sm/2sm/cutter because those have pretty realistic release + movement.
Sinkers are just ridiculous
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@Vermen said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Harryhukari33 said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
@Vermen said in BR really needs to be shifted to HOF difficulty:
If this were 19 I would %100 agree that br needs to be on HOF, but not this year. Playing the event I have gotten so bored of it being just wait for the first person to hit a homerun and win 1-0.
I’m not having that issue on the event at all. I’ve played 100 event games, and I keep playing them to grab rewards and because the gameplay is so much more enjoyable. You can keep people off balance pitching wise, and good input is rewarded so much more from a hitting standpoint,
I win %75 of my event games as well but they are still boring - you face Kluber\Pearson with Chapman coming out of the pen and the hitters we have currently dont have the vision for decent pci's which make for a strikeout fest. It may be working out for you but for the vast majority it doesnt. I have played 100 event games as well and with a few outliers the scores are often 1-0 2-0. Most casuals wont even attempt it due to the pitch speeds and tiny pci's
I honestly don't think the PCI's are the issue. I would love to see what happens if you put All-Star speed with HOF PCI's and then bump that up to even Legend PCI's.
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I would say pci size is definitely an issue, they're pretty small now on HoF compared to years past.
