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@Nauracy34... No.
First off, the market doesn't exist so people can make "passive income" by flipping cards. I could care less about your profit margins when I'm making decisions with my inventory.
And you're completely wrong about the speed with which something sells if it's considerably less than the "buy now" price; if I'm satisfied selling that card at $42K minus the 10%, and I want those stubs so I can do something else with them, then why would I post it for a stub less than the "buy now" so some fake-market junkie can undercut me by a stub, and then someone else can undercut that person by a stub... why waste the time when I can set a price I'm happy with and move on to doing what I want to do on my time, rather than playing out some ridiculous scenario where I have to engage with the shenanigans of Wall Street cosplayers instead of playing actual games with cards I'd like to use?
No thanks. I'll take a few thousand less than "buy now" (but a few thousand more than "sell now") to avoid that nonsense and be done with it quickly.
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@xxfrystealerxx said in Why?:
@Nauracy34 oh yeah no, I never sell it for less than you would get from the sell now price after the tax, that is dumb. If that is what you meant in your og post then I misunderstood and yes I agree with you lol
Yes that’s exactly what I was saying lol
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@The_Joneser said in Why?:
@Nauracy34... No.
First off, the market doesn't exist so people can make "passive income" by flipping cards. I could care less about your profit margins when I'm making decisions with my inventory.
And you're completely wrong about the speed with which something sells if it's considerably less than the "buy now" price; if I'm satisfied selling that card at $42K minus the 10%, and I want those stubs so I can do something else with them, then why would I post it for a stub less than the "buy now" so some fake-market junkie can undercut me by a stub, and then someone else can undercut that person by a stub... why waste the time when I can set a price I'm happy with and move on to doing what I want to do on my time, rather than playing out some ridiculous scenario where I have to engage with the shenanigans of Wall Street cosplayers instead of playing actual games with cards I'd like to use?
No thanks. I'll take a few thousand less than "buy now" (but a few thousand more than "sell now") to avoid that nonsense and be done with it quickly.
Seems as though I’ve struck a nerve
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@Nauracy34 said in Why?:
Seems as though I’ve struck a nerve
Yeah. It bothers me when the self-absorbed start calling people stupid for acting in a way that doesn't provide them direct benefit.
But, considering your original post, I guess I--and people like me--struck a nerve first...
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@The_Joneser said in Why?:
@Nauracy34 said in Why?:
Seems as though I’ve struck a nerve
Yeah. It bothers me when the self-absorbed start calling people stupid for acting in a way that doesn't provide them direct benefit.
But, considering your original post, I guess I--and people like me--struck a nerve first...
That’s the problem with some of the flippers, they’re wanna be venture capitalists, that think everything revolves around them.
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I don't really care either way to be honest. I've done it the sell now way, the a few stubs less than others and the hundreds to thousands less to sell it quickly. It's a game and I'm gonna have fun my way.
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I must say. i love watching people play the market likes its 24 hour job. Maybe get a job lol.
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That’s the beauty of the market: your gain is not my priority.
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Community market is an oxymoron: everyone for themselves.
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This is so stressful... Now I have to worry about people's feelings when I sell my cards?
Should I be afraid of pulling a diamond in a pack, because it'll offend someone who didn't?
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@Nauracy34 That is not true. If DeGrom sits at 45 and 1 card is put in at 42 there is no effect to the 45s … One is gonna buy his 42K-DeGrom and that is it.
I sometimes sell cards lower because I need the stubs quickly. If some people do this regularly, that‘s their right to do.EDIT: But it‘s kinda funny … response to post#1: Yeah, nice … not our problem
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If a method works why should anyone change their method to suit you? It is clear that sell now prices dip overnight so if I place a bunch of lowball offers before bed that go through I can sell them well below the buy now prices at midday and still make a healthy profit. I don't care about what you are trying to do.
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People tend to panic sell and I usually take advantage of that and turn them into free stubs. In some cases math is hard for some people and they lose stubs on the flip.
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@major_woody_ said in Why?:
People tend to panic sell and I usually take advantage of that and turn them into free stubs. In some cases math is hard for some people and they lose stubs on the flip.
Exactly. I love when the lowest buy now bid can be taken and relisted to the next buy now and there is profit.
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People are as bad with stubs as they are with real money it seems.
Simple economics. If you sell your product for less than anyone else, it will sell first. That difference can be 1 stub or more, but why do anything different unless you see a whole bunch of people actively trying to undercut, then I get it. You lose stubs when you post something for 40k when posting for 41999 put you in the same position and won't change how fast your card sells.
And I don't care about flipping at all.
I see it on the other end too where they change the buy now price to be much higher by driving up prices by posting multiple of the same card.
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@The_Joneser problem with that theory..you just get undercut with the low price you set..thus killing the value of the card
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@squishiesgirl, I understand your point, but that typically is not the case.
I'm not a flipper; I sell cards to get stubs only when there's a new card I want to buy, and because I tend to want that to happen quickly, I'm okay with paying a premium (via making less than I could if I were willing to wait) for it. When I'm fine with the proceeds I'll receive by dropping in a few thousand below the "buy now," it typically sells within minutes, if not seconds.
I understand that this is likely happening because someone sees that as an opportunity to grab my discounted card and flip it, though I hope it's just someone who really wants that card and sees a bargain, but, ultimately, I don't care; the goal, for me, is to get the stubs fast to make the purchase I want and immediately jump into playing games with my shiny new card. I've done this for years, and it works far more often than not.
There are times when someone will jump in with me and lower my already-low bid, but then I just decide if I want to repeat the process and go a thousand or more lower... as to killing the value of the card, again, I simply don't care. If the value truly is higher than I'm assigning it, then the market will correct after my anomaly. If not, then the price was too high to begin with.
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@The_Joneser I understand you don't care..but with everyone not caring the prices suck your stub gain sucks..but hey everyone can not care..but then don't complain about having to pat for stubs when not caRing is not what is drying up the stub well
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@squishiesgirl -- Yeah? That's your take? That my behavior is "drying up the stub well?"
As I said, I sell when I want to buy something. I tend to buy immediately after selling, and my haste goes both ways; if my preferred approach to selling is somehow responsible for depleting the well, would not that same approach when buying then wet the well's whistle, negating the overall effect of my selling?
I don't bid up a card I want by a paltry amount and waste my time with the games that the stub market analysts love to play. I'll go perhaps a few thousand stubs higher than the "sell now" with my buy orders to move those along, too, so, by your logic, I'm I not then adding value to the cards I'm buying and creating new opportunities for stub farmers to feed their families?
I don't care that I could be making more stubs, and I've never once complained "about having to pat for stubs." If anything, my lack of concern for market etiquette does nothing but transfer stubs that I could have retained to the masses at large, so instead of flippers complaining about people like me drying up the well, you should be thankful, instead, that I'm a willing patsie and happy to create opportunities for others to profit by buying low on my sales and selling high on my purchases.
Those opportunities exist because I don't care.
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