5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise)
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@TXRaider78 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
I haven't posted on the Community Forums in years, and yes, this is another post from a player saying he's checking out—likely to be met with "Fine, go." Whatever. Hopefully SDS reads this.
But I am finished with The Show, after many years and hundreds of dollars and countless hours spent. I took last year off because I was so frustrated with what was happening with the game, but one month into this year's game and...I just can't.
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The loss of true legends, replaced by above-average former players, is a HUGE L for this game. Losing the likes of Ted Williams, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb, Dale Murphy, and so SO many others, and then trying to dupe us into believing Chili Davis is a "legend." Chili Davis is a former player, not a legend. Grady Sizemore is a former player, not a legend. Raul Ibanez is a former player, not a legend. Lists float around these forums of the players SDS has lost the rights to, and it's staggering.
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Getting to 1 million (!) XP and 400 (!) Program cards to acquire a 99 boss is absolutely absurd. The amount of time you would need to spend flipping cards and playing the game to get to the achievements...people have lives and jobs. Their jobs should not be playing The Show just to get a 99 George Brett. For years, SDS has made small steps toward pushing players to spend money on stubs, and this...this is the final, full evolution of those efforts, and it's a slap in the face.
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Speaking of flipping, it used to be a sort of easy way to earn enough stubs to acquire the players you needed to complete collections. Now...the CAPTCHAs. I...I can't. It's too much. I literally went through 9(!) just to sell ONE card. I understand and respect the need to keep bots off the market, that's legit. But you have to go jump through more hoops to sell or buy a card on The Show Community Market than you do applying for a freaking credit card. The CAPTCHAs have turned flipping into an hours-long process.
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The insistence on Topps Now players. Look, just because a player goes 3-5 or throws two shutout innings, that does not mean they need a diamond card. And I sure as hell don't want to have to use a #4 starter who won't even be on the 40-man roster in August for, like, a dozen strikeouts. I've found my lineup usually consists of no-name Topps Now players I have never heard of and do not want to use on my team. Instead of using, say Ryne Sandberg at 2B, I have to use Colt Keith. SDS insists on us using these players, when no one wants to use them!
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The insistence on "Future Stars." News flash to SDS: About 80% of the Future Stars turn out to be nothing. Christian Pache? Forrest Whitley? Vidal Brujan? I get the fun of using new young players, and that's fine. But to make them, and Topps Now players, a primary mode of play...SDS used to be so much about Legends. Now it's about...I don't even know what. Spend your life flipping cards for 99 players we won't even build in programs to let you use.
Yes, this is long. Yes, this has been building up. Yes, I'm frustrated and disappointed. Do I expect anything will change? No.
dang thats crazy
not reading all of that
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@DEF266 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
I hate how they promised double xp weekends and we are half way through Season 1 and nothing. I hate how the recent conquest map had no additional xp. I hate the gameplay. But im a sucker and play bc there really isnt another game I want to play right now.
This I think is what bothers people the most...they slashed the XP which only hurts a large portion of the player base, and only somewhat slows down the hardcore grinders. The double XP won't do much with the cap(even assuming they double the daily cap with it). Not saying it won't help because it will...just nowhere near as much as in previous years
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@Sarge1387
Nerfing XP is the best example of how “unrewarding” the game is to play this year. Combined with the lack of packs in programs and abundance of packs for sale in the store it’s just a shell of what it once was. Even the “whitest” of white knights can’t deny that we used to get a lot more bang for our buck in past versions of the game. Overall these moves have catered to the whales and hardcore online players while crapping all over the remainder of the player base. This is why the game is getting so much backlash and the goodwill built up in the past is either completely gone or running on fumes. It really is sad to see the majority sacrificed for the vocal minority.
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I love all the responses from the SDS simps. Look at the ratio boys you’re out numbered.
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@LuvMyXBOX
Yea lol people weren’t using Ted Williams and Ty Cobb and they thought to themselves people will probably use Raul Ibanez and Ryan Ludwick more lol
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I have a whole thread on players like Chili Davis and Grady going. Chris Sabo seems to be the favorite in the mentions of players from the past but not necessarily legend status guys
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@BigBadBosc44 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
I have a whole thread on players like Chili Davis and Grady going. Chris Sabo seems to be the favorite in the mentions of players from the past but not necessarily legend status guys
I think we just want to see those goggles. He would at best be a low 90s card. Nothing super special but all around solid.
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@TheCanuckler309 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@LuvMyXBOX
Yea lol people weren’t using Ted Williams and Ty Cobb and they thought to themselves people will probably use Raul Ibanez and Ryan Ludwick more lol
I think what some of these 40-50 year olds on here fail to grasp is that this game is going to market towards kids.
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@chucky97___ said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@TheCanuckler309 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@LuvMyXBOX
Yea lol people weren’t using Ted Williams and Ty Cobb and they thought to themselves people will probably use Raul Ibanez and Ryan Ludwick more lol
I think what some of these 40-50 year olds on here fail to grasp is that this game is going to market towards kids.
Also because kids are vulnerable to the microtransaction culture publishers are pushing.
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@Sarge1387
Bingo. Plus this game should have some all time greats to help educate those kids. As a 43 year old my 7 year old son has learned about Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle thru this game. It can be marketed towards kids but still honor the legends from the past. My hey day was 80s and 90s. Tons of untapped stars from that era.
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@TripleH-4481 I get that, but like I've realized and I'm 27, I may come on here a lot, but always at the end of the day, this is a kids game. Kids in elementary/middle school dont care about overall's they just want their favorite players.
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@chucky97___ said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@TripleH-4481 I get that, but like I've realized and I'm 27, I may come on here a lot, but always at the end of the day, this is a kids game. Kids in elementary/middle school dont care about overall's they just want their favorite players.
Also not wrong. But its the predatory nature in which SDS and other pubs push the MT's in games geared towards kids I think that's the most alarming
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@chucky97___
I understand it from that end too because my son loves Acuna, Betts and Ohtani. Balance is the key. It can skew to today’s stars but not leave out all time greats along the way.
One of the biggest mistakes SDS makes consistently is over correcting. Last year was way too offline focused with too many 99s. This year is way too online focused. Middle ground would be nice. It all goes back to balance which although difficult to attain seems to be missed far too often by SDS.
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You are not alone. I’m not there yet, but I’m getting there. The xp and content model is broken. This game isn’t rewarding. It isn’t nearly as fun this year. I’m still playing, but I’m probably going to skip next year unless some radical changes are made. They have clearly sold out for greed.
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@Sarge1387
That’s how you create gambling problems from a young age. I’ve even seen commercials warning parents to be aware of this. It’s a shady move based on pure greed by these companies. Profit is important but sometimes it crosses the line.
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@TripleH-4481 I just think SDS is at a point where they haven't been making profit due to the big fish legends. It's no shock how when they got rights to Johnson, Jeter, etc the game has gone a bit more in into MT, MLB is game to that by most usually gets dumped come august because of Madden.
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@chucky97___
I feel like it’s a combo of that and MLB forcing them to go multi platform. The game has been skewing in a different direction since it became available to Xbox and switch players. When it was a PlayStation exclusive I feel like the game was much more player friendly and not so profit driven.
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@chucky97___ said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@TheCanuckler309 said in 5 Reasons Why I Am Quitting The Show (Or Why SDS has Failed a Franchise):
@LuvMyXBOX
Yea lol people weren’t using Ted Williams and Ty Cobb and they thought to themselves people will probably use Raul Ibanez and Ryan Ludwick more lol
I think what some of these 40-50 year olds on here fail to grasp is that this game is going to market towards kids.
Guys like ibanez are catering to the 30-40 year olds, and guys like Chili Davis to the 40-50 year olds. I assume people complaining about players like this are the kids.
The horrific menus I guess are trying to cater to kids (and olds with poor taste). The gambling aspect gets all ages.
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@Teak2112 could you take it further down the throat or do you have more to slobber on?
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@TXRaider78 I've never seen a captcha and I've never heard anyone else mention it. It's likely a config issue on your end.
I assumed the missing legends were due to them being complete dirt bags like racism, misogyny, etc. and our current social climate having zero tolerance on that stuff. Last, I was surprised to recently learn that Topps Now is based on an actual baseball card line in real life.You are absolutely right about the move towards pay to play. Someone can literally buy-in to get the best cards. I don't really have issues with that, it's just not something I'll be doing.
