I want a game that is not a sim
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I know this is screaming at clouds, but my problems with this game have become so clear lately.
I want a baseball video game that is not a simulation. If I load the bases vs the Yankees in the first inning of a franchise game, then rip a perfect swing with my 4 hitter, I want it to get a good result, not go right at an infielder for a double play because it’s the Yankees.
I know some of you will say, “that’s baseball” and that is fine. You guys can have this game.
I want a video game that is not a simulation. -
https://www.crazygames.com/t/baseball
Nintendo has one on the Switch too. I'm sure there are others out there besides these.
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Not exactly what I had in mind but… thanks?
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The problem with the show is that in my opinion the AI sims the game before the teams step on the field and if the AI deems that your team lost the sim then you will lose the player controlled game too. A top level player can overcome it, or even a weaker player if he catches someone on the right day and the other guy gets frustrated and quits.
However, most of the time if the player the AI declares would lose is not playing as expected then it will go out of its way to cheat on behalf of the other player. Too many times I am having an outstanding pitching performance against another player only to watch after the fourth or fifth inning that my "perfect" pitches aimed for the dirt, high and outside, or some other location will magically go right down the middle for free home runs, or my 99 speed middle infielder with a diamond defense rating is unable to get to a routine ground ball that gets through for an RBI single.
Too many times like OP I catch a player with a plus pitcher like deGrom that throws the pitch in the same spot in a situation where I catch it "perfect" for it to be a routine fly ball, or his 65 speed bronze defender magically chases it down after running an unrealistically long distance and makes a diving grab that Jim Edmonds would be jealous of. I also witness players out of position that play hall of fame defense with zero penalty. Had a guy using Lofton at third base and he played better than Arenado.
Unfortunately, player input means almost nothing in this game as SDS determines the outcome.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
The problem with the show is that in my opinion the AI sims the game before the teams step on the field and if the AI deems that your team lost the sim then you will lose the player controlled game too. A top level player can overcome it, or even a weaker player if he catches someone on the right day and the other guy gets frustrated and quits.
However, most of the time if the player the AI declares would lose is not playing as expected then it will go out of its way to cheat on behalf of the other player. Too many times I am having an outstanding pitching performance against another player only to watch after the fourth or fifth inning that my "perfect" pitches aimed for the dirt, high and outside, or some other location will magically go right down the middle for free home runs, or my 99 speed middle infielder with a diamond defense rating is unable to get to a routine ground ball that gets through for an RBI single.
Too many times like OP I catch a player with a plus pitcher like deGrom that throws the pitch in the same spot in a situation where I catch it "perfect" for it to be a routine fly ball, or his 65 speed bronze defender magically chases it down after running an unrealistically long distance and makes a diving grab that Jim Edmonds would be jealous of. I also witness players out of position that play hall of fame defense with zero penalty. Had a guy using Lofton at third base and he played better than Arenado.
Unfortunately, player input means almost nothing in this game as SDS determines the outcome.
Dude!! That is so true... This game is rigged and it's obvious.... I actually just finished a game against a guy taking its sweet a** time pitching... couldnt hit, I had a 8,2 inning perfect game but lost it to a single in bottom of the 9th... so this game goes in 10th, I cant score a run, he comes to the plate, I get his 1st bast out on a popup, then a grounder to 2nd base, his runner (99 speed) goes to 3rd so now its 2 out and 99 speed on 3rd base. He puts Kwan (84 speed) at bat, and he bunts... I was sure he was gonna do that so I pitched a FB up and in that ended inside and out of the box.... he gets a bunt toward 1st anyways, my 1st baseman Pujols takes his SWEEEEEEEET time to field the ball while my pitcher Grayson ALSO takes his SWEEEEET time to go to first.... no reason to rush its just the game on the line
🥴 so Kwan is safe on 1st and I lose the game... I dont care W or L in RS I just grind the innings but FFS does it suck to lose that way... thats one example of stupid outcome i went through but I have a truck load of examples... like that... less on online play but it still happens.... game is rigged no doubt about it, especially against CPU... If you play the game enough yoh get to see some patterns... just sucks that skills (or lack of... 
) account for maybe 20-30% of an outcome sometimes... there are games though that are fair i think and I wonder why that is... why sometimes the game decides some outcome and other time its more relying on people playing... -
@Devil_Poussinet said in I want a game that is not a sim:
@darkblue1876_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
The problem with the show is that in my opinion the AI sims the game before the teams step on the field and if the AI deems that your team lost the sim then you will lose the player controlled game too. A top level player can overcome it, or even a weaker player if he catches someone on the right day and the other guy gets frustrated and quits.
However, most of the time if the player the AI declares would lose is not playing as expected then it will go out of its way to cheat on behalf of the other player. Too many times I am having an outstanding pitching performance against another player only to watch after the fourth or fifth inning that my "perfect" pitches aimed for the dirt, high and outside, or some other location will magically go right down the middle for free home runs, or my 99 speed middle infielder with a diamond defense rating is unable to get to a routine ground ball that gets through for an RBI single.
Too many times like OP I catch a player with a plus pitcher like deGrom that throws the pitch in the same spot in a situation where I catch it "perfect" for it to be a routine fly ball, or his 65 speed bronze defender magically chases it down after running an unrealistically long distance and makes a diving grab that Jim Edmonds would be jealous of. I also witness players out of position that play hall of fame defense with zero penalty. Had a guy using Lofton at third base and he played better than Arenado.
Unfortunately, player input means almost nothing in this game as SDS determines the outcome.
Dude!! That is so true... This game is rigged and it's obvious.... I actually just finished a game against a guy taking its sweet a** time pitching... couldnt hit, I had a 8,2 inning perfect game but lost it to a single in bottom of the 9th... so this game goes in 10th, I cant score a run, he comes to the plate, I get his 1st bast out on a popup, then a grounder to 2nd base, his runner (99 speed) goes to 3rd so now its 2 out and 99 speed on 3rd base. He puts Kwan (84 speed) at bat, and he bunts... I was sure he was gonna do that so I pitched a FB up and in that ended inside and out of the box.... he gets a bunt toward 1st anyways, my 1st baseman Pujols takes his SWEEEEEEEET time to field the ball while my pitcher Grayson ALSO takes his SWEEEEET time to go to first.... no reason to rush its just the game on the line
🥴 so Kwan is safe on 1st and I lose the game... I dont care W or L in RS I just grind the innings but FFS does it suck to lose that way... thats one example of stupid outcome i went through but I have a truck load of examples... like that... less on online play but it still happens.... game is rigged no doubt about it, especially against CPU... If you play the game enough yoh get to see some patterns... just sucks that skills (or lack of... ) account for maybe 20-30% of an outcome sometimes... there are games though that are fair i think and I wonder why that is... why sometimes the game decides some outcome and other time its more relying on people playing...Just had that same cheat experience. Rare game where I completely was dominating my opponent. Weak grounder gets past everyone then a fastball high and in goes right down the middle for runners on second and third with one out. Sac fly ties game and the exact same bunt cheese with infield in for the game winner. SDS determines outcomes. Not the players. Even more they rub your nose in it by rewarding cheesers.
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This is exactly what I’m talking about. Eventually someone will make a game where outcomes are based on player input.
I understand the idea behind per nines and making the game seem like rl baseball. I just think, in the long run, video games are more fun when they play like video games.
What we have now with end game cards is not really realistic at all anyway, imo.
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Just because you have a perfect swing does not meant it is always going to be best result just because you want it depends on spot of the bat it comes off the bat and location too it's just a game no need to complain about everything in the game
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@halfbutt_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
Eventually someone will make a game where outcomes are based on player input.
I hope you get the game you want some day. I do have a question though.
If you are really good at the game should 2022 Yadi Molina be able to hit for the same average as Mickey Mantle?
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@Dolenz_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
If you are really good at the game should 2022 Yadi Molina be able to hit for the same average as Mickey Mantle?
If he sees fastballs down the middle every time or gets an opponent that throws a pitch in the exact same spot every time and he can place the PCI there yes.
That would be less of a problem if they actually fixed the many glitches in the game. Should my opponent get to "win" because the AI predetermined the outcome before we stepped onto the digital field?
When I throw a fastball low and outside because my opponent is chasing, but the AI says NOPE. You really wanted to throw that right down the middle so he can hit a home run and win.
Had a game last week where I had a rare game where I was winning, and I hit a ball that rolled through the gap to the wall. His outfielder was just standing there, so I keep going.
I round third since he is still standing there, and as I get halfway to home, even though the outfielder still had not moved, and there was no throw the catcher was waiting for me with the ball in his hand.
Should I get punished for actually winning? Don't get me wrong, I have lost plenty of games because my opponent is much better than I am, but if SDS would let ME determine the outcome of my games instead of their AI I would be further along in many programs and have a much better experience.
As it is they spend zero seconds working tickets, zero time fixing long known bugs, and the people who do actually speak for the company are arrogant d bags has ensured I will never buy another of their products in the future.
Working as intended.
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I played a game a few days ago and my opponent got a no-doubt HR with A.J. Burnett (I made a post on that).... not the first I've seen an unpowered player hit a bomb in the stands in this game on balls nowhere near a place in the zone where he could hit it that far.... Happens quite often against CPU...
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@Dolenz_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
@halfbutt_PSN said in I want a game that is not a sim:
Eventually someone will make a game where outcomes are based on player input.
I hope you get the game you want some day. I do have a question though.
If you are really good at the game should 2022 Yadi Molina be able to hit for the same average as Mickey Mantle?
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I don’t know.
Sometimes I think the ideal game would be closer to what DD was when it first became part of the Show.Pretty much every player was a created player.
The idea of being able to collect baseball cards and then play a game with them, is fantastic.
I understand WHY there is a sim aspect to this game. I just don’t really enjoy the gameplay that much as a result.
Even on casual veteran difficulty in Franchise, the AI will eventually step in if things get too out of hand.
Go ahead and put up a bunch of runs in the first inning and then see it happen.
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If you want to play this game in a non sim arcady way just play DD, you don't get more arcady than that...or just get Super Mega baseball.
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In all honesty, the 4 of my last 5 losses were all to cheesers. The end game credits should actually say player of the game SDS AI. They determine who wins or loses. Player input means nothing.
Working as intended.
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