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  • Dome_1316_PSND Offline
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    Perfect-perfect Should be a hit 100% off the time. The rest of the inputs should be a drastic drop-off. Maybe SDS could tinker around with hit rate. Maybe something like: Good 30%, just early/late 20%, early/late 15%, very early/late 3% (dinkers&dribblers).

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    SDS says......Read our lips....hitting is as it is intended to be.

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  • Scar_USMC77_PSNS Offline
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    @dome_1316_psn said in Hitting engine:

    Perfect-perfect Should be a hit 100% off the time. The rest of the inputs should be a drastic drop-off. Maybe SDS could tinker around with hit rate. Maybe something like: Good 30%, just early/late 20%, early/late 15%, very early/late 3% (dinkers&dribblers).

    I’m not even sure it’s the hitting engine anymore. I think there is way to much RNG. I mean I had a perfect pop up to short with the bases loaded a couple days ago and I’m pretty sure it’s because the [censored] RNG stepped in because I was about to put a huge inning together and run away with the game. It’s hard enough to beat people this year with the way hitting is, but having to beat the AI too? Long story short your right about perfects but they aren’t gonna do a thing about hitting. It is what it is

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  • darkblue1876_PSND Offline
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    You now not only have to beat your opponent, you have to beat the AI as well. I have had many times where they have gifted the other player runs.

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    I find it like golf. One day I'm breaking 80 thinkin I have it figured out then next day I shoot 90.

    I do think it's fps and latency issues that causes a lot of problems. I do have a solid connection and TV but still see some major lag in most games. Was thinking if tryn to switch from analog to button . Might help.

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    @dontred0nme_xbl said in Hitting engine:

    I find it like golf. One day I'm breaking 80 thinkin I have it figured out then next day I shoot 90.

    I do think it's fps and latency issues that causes a lot of problems. I do have a solid connection and TV but still see some major lag in most games. Was thinking if tryn to switch from analog to button . Might help.

    That’s worth a try. Interested in how that turns out.

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  • MHHW33_PSNM Offline
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    Myself and friends did months long stay tracking and batting averages were between .845 and .865, with hundreds of pp each over that time. That’s more then high enough. There are people that would play each other and have scores in the 100’s combined if they did your patch.

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  • RonnieGant1992R Offline
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    @dome_1316_psn said in Hitting engine:

    Perfect-perfect Should be a hit 100% off the time. The rest of the inputs should be a drastic drop-off. Maybe SDS could tinker around with hit rate. Maybe something like: Good 30%, just early/late 20%, early/late 15%, very early/late 3% (dinkers&dribblers).

    Perfect perfect ahould not be a hit 100 percent of the time. I played at a high level and I cant count how many times I hit it on the screws only to be a 100 EV line drive right at someone. Perfect Perfect flyball with X launch angle should be a bomb well depending on players power 😉

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  • eatyum_PSNE Offline
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    People talking about the perfect/perfect and how it shouldn't be a hit everytime

    but can we talk about this guy wants us to get a hit 30% of the time on goods? Yikes, way to low.

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  • Chrono_Omega_PSNC Offline
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    I can confirm the good/good swings are actually not as good as the “stats” they give us are. Those stats are only accurate in high altitude stadiums that reward terrible swings. If you play in any other regular stadium your average on good/goods are around .135-170 less than what they say. Which is huge.

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    @Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    I can confirm the good/good swings are actually not as good as the “stats” they give us are. Those stats are only accurate in high altitude stadiums that reward terrible swings. If you play in any other regular stadium your average on good/goods are around .135-170 less than what they say. Which is huge.

    You realize the math wouldn't add up then right? The averages would have to be higher then they say in high altitude stadiums if it was lower in regular stadiums, it can't be even and then under, that isn't how math works.

    If the average was 400, and let's say it's half and half, the above would be 600 and lower would be 200, making it an even 400.

    It couldn't be an average of 400 with above being 400 and below being 200, that doesn't work

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    @eatyum_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    @Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    I can confirm the good/good swings are actually not as good as the “stats” they give us are. Those stats are only accurate in high altitude stadiums that reward terrible swings. If you play in any other regular stadium your average on good/goods are around .135-170 less than what they say. Which is huge.

    You realize the math wouldn't add up then right? The averages would have to be higher then they say in high altitude stadiums if it was lower in regular stadiums, it can't be even and then under, that isn't how math works.

    If the average was 400, and let's say it's half and half, the above would be 600 and lower would be 200, making it an even 400.

    It couldn't be an average of 400 with above being 400 and below being 200, that doesn't work

    More people play in high altitude stadiums than not though. It’s Coors, Laughing Mountain, or some cheesy little league created stadiums with 5000 foot elevation.

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    My take.

    The Show needs to offer zero choices to the users to get the best online experience.

    There should be 1 hitting view
    1 pitching view
    1 set of inputs

    30 mlb stadiums with the atmosphere/ crowd anamations locked. No one complains about crowd play/ just game play.

    Cross play is not good.
    Stay same console.

    Then SDS can address gameplay but my hunch is all this stuff is too much to overcome and then u have the speed of your connection.

    The game plays just so much better offline but humans want to play humans not the CPU.

    My 2 cents.

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  • eatyum_PSNE Offline
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    @genopolanco_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    @eatyum_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    @Chrono_Omega_PSN said in Hitting engine:

    I can confirm the good/good swings are actually not as good as the “stats” they give us are. Those stats are only accurate in high altitude stadiums that reward terrible swings. If you play in any other regular stadium your average on good/goods are around .135-170 less than what they say. Which is huge.

    You realize the math wouldn't add up then right? The averages would have to be higher then they say in high altitude stadiums if it was lower in regular stadiums, it can't be even and then under, that isn't how math works.

    If the average was 400, and let's say it's half and half, the above would be 600 and lower would be 200, making it an even 400.

    It couldn't be an average of 400 with above being 400 and below being 200, that doesn't work

    More people play in high altitude stadiums than not though. It’s Coors, Laughing Mountain, or some cheesy little league created stadiums with 5000 foot elevation.

    Sure, but no matter what percentage it is, the math still doesn't check out on that. Even if it's 75% in high altitude, it couldn't be an average of 400 with above being 400 and below being 200, it's just not mathematically possible.

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  • mubby_33_PSNM Offline
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    I've had an exit velocity of 88 leave the park to deep right center. I've also had an exit velocity of 108 with a launch angle of 28 get caught short of the warning track in right field. Hitting seems just fine. Lol

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  • capardo_XBLC Offline
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    I believe the level you play at should influence hit results. On Rookie, perfect/perfect should be a homer every time. On veteran, it should be a hit every time.

    The goal on these results is to encourage me to try higher levels. If I get enough positive feedback, I’ll naturally want to try a more difficult level. If I get tired of scoring so many runs on a level, again, I’ll naturally want to try a higher level of difficulty

    In other words, on Rookie, I should get EVERY advantage. On veteran, I should get MOST advantages. As you go up a level, the CPU should get smarter.

    Only difference in levels in this game, appears to be pitch speeds. So, why change?

    Madden approaches their game this way. One of the few things in their game they do well.

    My two cents.

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