Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?
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Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
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Overalls are a product of denim and sewing/stitching.
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@write-to-shawn_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Overalls are a product of denim and sewing/stitching.
Hee Haw!!
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@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
You mean like Albies starting out as a Gold, bumping him to a Diamond the first update, and then back down to a Gold the second update?
They need to change updates to every month or so.
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People just aren’t very smart.
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@mrxbaseballx2k22_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
You mean like Albies starting out as a Gold, bumping him to a Diamond the first update, and then back down to a Gold the second update?
They need to change updates to every month or so.
If they stuck to their three year plan that they preach so hard there wouldnt be as many drastic changes unless guys completely fall of cliffs statistically. And we're only 2 months in and its still pretty early to judge quite a few guys. A 2 week slump shouldnt drop you 5 overalls. Monthly would be so much more accurate.
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@mrxbaseballx2k22_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
You mean like Albies starting out as a Gold, bumping him to a Diamond the first update, and then back down to a Gold the second update?
They need to change updates to every month or so.
This is probably 100 percent true. They do change attributes too often. But they do it because of the excitement and controversy it creates. So they aren't gonna change it.
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The three year weighted average is to start the year. Current season then starts to dictate the updates.
In Trouts case he's better now despite losing 1 overall. He's now better against LHP and he's always up on IE vs RHP.
I think the quick sell changes are the trade off for these more drastic attribute changes. For example, I bought quite a few Goldschmidt cards at 2,800 stubs or lower. He jumped to 88 overall today and QS goes for 5,500 stubs. That kind of adjustment never happened before.
The market would be boring and useless for LS cards if the only updated once a month.
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
You have to take the good with the bad though. If you want your favorite player upgraded after he has been on fire for two weeks then you have to be prepared to see them go down again when they slow back down.
I'm kind of with you though that every two weeks is a bit quick.
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I had Trouts 90 card for the longest he was a 94 ovr with parallel 5 and absolutely loved that card. I finally got enough coins to buy his 96 ovr 2 days ago and now they drop his ratings. Bummed about it but oh well his still the most well rounded out fielder with his bat and defense.
Also I believe believe in Quirks and he again had some of the best ones. His 90 card had the 2nd most home runs on my team besides my CAP. Trout saw less plate appearances than the David Justice, Ernie Banks, and Eddie Mathews yet he still had more home runs and RBIs for me.
His BA wasn’t as good as the guys I mentioned for me but he still out performed them is home runs and RBI”s. The only explanation I have is cause his quirks on hitting
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@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
@dolenz_psn said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes and not advanced baseball metrics or overall stats?
It just seems like, every update, people complain about the updates while only mentioning the overall changes and then supporting their case with baseball stats that have no impact on in game ratings.
So when Mike Trout gets a downgrade and you look at the reason why you see that his Contact and Power vs Lefties went up while his Contact and Power vs righties along with his Vis, Disc and Clutch went down.
But if you look at his stats for the last 14 days you see
- In the last 14 days his BA is .283 (it is safe to assume most of those came against Right handers). Lower then normal
- He has struck out 36% of the time in the last 14 days. Higher than normal
- He has 4 walks in the last 14 days which is greatly lower then his normal season walk rate.
So you assume the BA went down vs righties, he struck out more often and walked less often hence the downgrades to Vis and Disc.
You don't have to agree with their methodology at all and I can definitely see that argument. You can claim that they play favorites and I would not disagree. You can even say that they try and put a cap on how many live series diamonds there are in game and I could not argue against that.
But if you are going to argue that a players upgrade or downgrade was warranted or not then look up the actual attribute upgrades and downgrades and argue against those individual changes.
If only they made gameplay changes at the rate they drastically decrease and increase player ratings. Baseball is a game of slumps and streaks. You can drop or raise a guys contact and power every two weeks. What happened to the 3 year average??
You have to take the good with the bad though. If you want your favorite player upgraded after he has been on fire for two weeks then you have to be prepared to see them go down again when they slow back down.
I'm kind of with you though that every two weeks is a bit quick.
I wish they would be quick to upgrade and slow to downgrade. With legends and flashbacks being so good like ketel and others, it makes almost all the live series cards feel useless. They all have a massive hole in their attributes somewhere. Trout, acuna, judge, and tatis might be the only cards that are playable at a high level
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@chuck_dizzle29 said in Will gamers ever realize that Overalls are a product of individual attributes?:
The three year weighted average is to start the year. Current season then starts to dictate the updates.
In Trouts case he's better now despite losing 1 overall. He's now better against LHP and he's always up on IE vs RHP.
I think the quick sell changes are the trade off for these more drastic attribute changes. For example, I bought quite a few Goldschmidt cards at 2,800 stubs or lower. He jumped to 88 overall today and QS goes for 5,500 stubs. That kind of adjustment never happened before.
The market would be boring and useless for LS cards if the only updated once a month.
I can see you point with your last sentence. But that's the problem with some people. This is a video game about baseball. Not about investing.
Yes, LS updates are a way to make stubs. But with the new system; it's more of a [censored] shoot than before.
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