Good bye MLB the Show
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DD is fun and it's cool to get all your favorite players, but it kind of breaks the game at the same time. When everyone on your team is a superstar, the game plays much differently.
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
DD is fun and it's cool to get all your favorite players, but it kind of breaks the game at the same time. When everyone on your team is a superstar, the game plays much differently.
You need strengths and weaknesses to play the game correctly, IMO.Well you put your finger on the larger issue. DD players don't seem as concerned with the strategical nuances of the game nearly as much. Probably a lot more of them are arcade-style players. Complaints and criticisms from the DD crowd seem to focus on button/gamepad mechanic type stuff (perfect timing should result in a HR every time regardless of rating, etc...).
Contrast this with franchise players...I have no evidence but I suspect they are older on average. Complaints are geared towards thinks like AI bullpen management, outcome rates (BB, HR, SO), getting things like bunting and shifts to work correctly, etc...
DD forum has over 140x the posts as this one, so you can see why their priorities are what they are.
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@blbu75_psn said in Good bye MLB the Show:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
DD is fun and it's cool to get all your favorite players, but it kind of breaks the game at the same time. When everyone on your team is a superstar, the game plays much differently.
You need strengths and weaknesses to play the game correctly, IMO.Well you put your finger on the larger issue. DD players don't seem as concerned with the strategical nuances of the game nearly as much. Probably a lot more of them are arcade-style players. Complaints and criticisms from the DD crowd seem to focus on button/gamepad mechanic type stuff (perfect timing should result in a HR every time regardless of rating, etc...).
Contrast this with franchise players...I have no evidence but I suspect they are older on average. Complaints are geared towards thinks like AI bullpen management, outcome rates (BB, HR, SO), getting things like bunting and shifts to work correctly, etc...
DD forum has over 140x the posts as this one, so you can see why their priorities are what they are.
Yep this is exactly where the game is going now, so much emphasis is on DD and catering to those casual players.
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@megaprime1977_psn said in Good bye MLB the Show:
It’s a real shame to end this way. Waited for the power of PS5, stadium creator man the child in me woke up again. So looking forward to rebuilding a team from scratch. MLB 21 started Orioles franchise playing one last season in their stadium before moving them. I played every painful game only to finish 6th in the WC and missed the playoffs and now I can’t carry over and franchise gets no love.
Thank you for making me realize how much time I wasted playing this game. I waited for years and spent so much time. I’ve dreamt of an MLB game like this since I started tracking stats playing season mode in baseball simulator 1000 on NES. Just like the NES game nothing changed over the years but I only paid for the game once. I’ve been playing the show since 08 So much potential in this game but so little effort for franchise. It’s a shame. But thank God PS5 has so many exciting titles coming out.
Two things Ramone can do:
- don’t break MLB 21 with a patch. At least let us have that.
- Just play straight with us please. We deserve an explanation
Ummm, isn't Franchise Mode multiple years? Can't you just continue with your Franchise on 21?
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As a franchise player for years, it is frustrating. I do like the new change to MTO for 22. Its an accelerated version of franchise. The most frustrating is how the IGNORE the fact that a lot of people want Online Franchise. Even Madden and NBA 2k have it - and they are the worse when it comes to microtransactions.
DD is fun to grind and probably the only "Ultimate team" mode in sports games that you can spend no money and compete.
RTTS - unfortunately is a snooze fest. There is no innovation with that mode and I think they could have something great there if they could put together a team to do it well.
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@xdemolitiondx_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
lot of people want Online Franchise
Define a lot of people..
Even when Online Franchise was in the game it was the least played mode by a pretty large margin.
While I am sure that there is a dedicated group who want to see it return, I think calling that group large is a stretch in comparison to the fans of the other modes.
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After the franchise and MTO feature premieres, I’m now leaning towards ‘Good buy, MLB The Show’.
Getting TA on board seems to have paid significant dividends. Solid updates to the two modes. Let’s hope it operates as advertised.
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@red_ted_is_back said in Good bye MLB the Show:
After the franchise and MTO feature premieres, I’m now leaning towards ‘Good buy, MLB The Show’.
Getting TA on board seems to have paid significant dividends. Solid updates to the two modes. Let’s hope it operates as advertised.
Works on contingency?
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@dolenz_psn said in Good bye MLB the Show:
@xdemolitiondx_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
lot of people want Online Franchise
Define a lot of people..
Even when Online Franchise was in the game it was the least played mode by a pretty large margin.
While I am sure that there is a dedicated group who want to see it return, I think calling that group large is a stretch in comparison to the fans of the other modes.
Because sds implemented it crappy and community had to come up with workarounds creating extra work just to play
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I feel that way with MLB that will only increase the HR/BB or K boring game
BUT if you want to see how I handled the Orioles on 21 I have a playlist on my YouTube channel. I kept Chris Davis and played him due to his contract.
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@buddyhightower_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
DD is fun and it's cool to get all your favorite players, but it kind of breaks the game at the same time. When everyone on your team is a superstar, the game plays much differently.
You need strengths and weaknesses to play the game correctly, IMO.You hit the nail on the head
Try this in Franchise or exhibition against the CPU
When pitching, don't move the pitching cursor, just keep it dead center
Pitch your main pitch and go through to the 5th or 4th pitch, then go from 5th or 4th to 1st pitch...all dead center
You will have better success against the CPU then when trying to paint the corners
That tells me pitching and batting was tested using Diamond Dynasty and H2H
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@blbu75_psn said in Good bye MLB the Show:
@buddyhightower_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
DD is fun and it's cool to get all your favorite players, but it kind of breaks the game at the same time. When everyone on your team is a superstar, the game plays much differently.
You need strengths and weaknesses to play the game correctly, IMO.Well you put your finger on the larger issue. DD players don't seem as concerned with the strategical nuances of the game nearly as much. Probably a lot more of them are arcade-style players. Complaints and criticisms from the DD crowd seem to focus on button/gamepad mechanic type stuff (perfect timing should result in a HR every time regardless of rating, etc...).
Contrast this with franchise players...I have no evidence but I suspect they are older on average. Complaints are geared towards thinks like AI bullpen management, outcome rates (BB, HR, SO), getting things like bunting and shifts to work correctly, etc...
DD forum has over 140x the posts as this one, so you can see why their priorities are what they are.
To be fair...MLB is doing its best to make the great game of baseball an arcade version of itself
You will no longer see bunts or hit and runs or shifts or strategic pitching changes.
MLB in 22 will be HR,BB or K 75% of the time with a nice 20 minutes of instant replay and 10 minutes of checking the pitcher for substances stoppage.MLB and MLBPA have turned chess into checkers
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@dolenz_psn said in Good bye MLB the Show:
@xdemolitiondx_xbl said in Good bye MLB the Show:
lot of people want Online Franchise
Define a lot of people..
Even when Online Franchise was in the game it was the least played mode by a pretty large margin.
While I am sure that there is a dedicated group who want to see it return, I think calling that group large is a stretch in comparison to the fans of the other modes.
Those numbers they give are extremely misleading on purpose. They used the number of online leagues created as the number which is the wrong way to do it. The last time they had a full fledged franchise mode, I was in two 30 user leagues, with no overlap in either except for myself. That’s 59 different users playing online franchise in only two leagues. While most leagues probably don’t have 30 users, it’s easy to see why those numbers are misleading
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When I was offline only, only bought the game every 2-3 years; didn't make sense to buy yearly if you're not into DD or UT modes. There's not enough changes from one year to the next for an annual buy, ever with year to year saves. Why don't you continue your franchise in 21 and skip 22???
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I'm new to MLB the Show and am still on MLB 20 for PS4. So I have couple questions...
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What is the main complaint with Franchise? Is it that trade logic makes the game too easy? I'm doing a Philly franchise and I don't seem to have a problem creating a (so far) 6 year dynasty with them.
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I wasn't that keen on MLB 21 as I didn't really fall in love with the idea of the video game type loadouts for players. Will that continue?
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How well will MLB 22 run on a PS4 Pro? What would I be missing by not playing MLB 22 on a PS5? I don't have any intention on getting a PS5, BTW.
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Will there still be access to Sounds of the Show on the PS4 version?
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Could be worse. At least your mode didn't get basically gutted to tie into DD. As a RTTS player, I can say that entire mode was destroyed last year for the sake of the DD player base.
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When SDS quotes data revealing that most franchise users abandon the mode within 2 years, they wouldn’t dare make the inference that it’s because the mode itself sucks and not because people don’t want to play a good franchise mode.
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