Matched up with a Directional Hitter
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
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@jogger171717_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
Well, I think it’s pretty obvious whose alt account this is lmao
You sound confident in that. How bout we ask the Reps to find out for us and report they’re findings. Sound good?
The fact that I’m attacked by a select group of individuals, to the point of being accused of being someone else, while expressing my opinion about a game on a site dedicated to that game is just wrong and I’m surprised SDS is allowing it.
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
Well, I think it’s pretty obvious whose alt account this is lmao
You sound confident in that. How bout we ask the Reps to find out for us and report they’re findings. Sound good?
The fact that I’m attacked by a select group of individuals, to the point of being accused of being someone else, while expressing my opinion about a game on a site dedicated to that game is just wrong and I’m surprised SDS is allowing it.
If anything anyone has said is considered an attack to you then let me be the first to say;
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
Well, I think it’s pretty obvious whose alt account this is lmao
You sound confident in that. How bout we ask the Reps to find out for us and report they’re findings. Sound good?
The fact that I’m attacked by a select group of individuals, to the point of being accused of being someone else, while expressing my opinion about a game on a site dedicated to that game is just wrong and I’m surprised SDS is allowing it.
Nobody is attacking you man. If you post a diatribe like this clearly looking for feedback, you're going to get some...even if it's not positive. You stated at the end of this original post that this was your alt account. If that was a joke, then I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to stir the pot. There's nothing wrong with posting your opinions on a discussion forum, just don't get so angry if people disagree or call you out when you're the one who stated this was your alt account.
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@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@painpa_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
the first error is thinking there is a pci in directional hitting, there isnt it is swing timing and nothing else.
it displays in the feedback because its part of the base program.in order to not they would have to write code for it, then deal with the repercussions of 2 different feedback systemsThen why do they claim “stick skills reign supreme” when in fact directional hitters aren’t even using the sticks?
Almost none of this game uses the sticks. Don’t get caught up on that. Directional is mostly luck, you can achieve even better by actually being good at the game.
It’s almost like it makes sense, get good be good, have one arm still get to play and have fun.
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@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
You can’t elaborate on your own comment? You can’t explain why a far superior opponent might lose a game to an inferior opponent?
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
You can’t elaborate on your own comment? You can’t explain why a far superior opponent might lose a game to an inferior opponent?
He said you would lose 101 times out of 100.
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@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
You can’t elaborate on your own comment? You can’t explain why a far superior opponent might lose a game to an inferior opponent?
He said you would lose 101 times out of 100.
Right, but if I’m playing someone that much better than me, how could I win even once?
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@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@killerpresence4 said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
You can’t elaborate on your own comment? You can’t explain why a far superior opponent might lose a game to an inferior opponent?
He said you would lose 101 times out of 100.
Right, but if I’m playing someone that much better than me, how could I win even once?
Read their comment slowly. Then read it again even slower and think about it for a minute. If you still have the same question after that then "stick skills" are the least of your worries
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@ericulous1_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@jogger171717_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
Well, I think it’s pretty obvious whose alt account this is lmao
You sound confident in that. How bout we ask the Reps to find out for us and report they’re findings. Sound good?
The fact that I’m attacked by a select group of individuals, to the point of being accused of being someone else, while expressing my opinion about a game on a site dedicated to that game is just wrong and I’m surprised SDS is allowing it.
Nobody is attacking you man. If you post a diatribe like this clearly looking for feedback, you're going to get some...even if it's not positive. You stated at the end of this original post that this was your alt account. If that was a joke, then I'm sorry. I'm really not trying to stir the pot. There's nothing wrong with posting your opinions on a discussion forum, just don't get so angry if people disagree or call you out when you're the one who stated this was your alt account.
Well, reading through the comments there are a few here in attack mode.
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@nflman2033_mlbts said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@savefarris_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
“I threw the same pitch every single time and he finally adjusted to it” doesn’t prove what you think it does.
How could he adjust to it? He’s a directional hitter. What you actually mean is, the game itself adjusted to it and helped him out.
Are you being purposefully obtuse?
All he’s controlling is the swing timing. The AI and the batters attributes and ability are controlling the rest. This has been explained repeatedly.
All he has to do is push a single button and the AI does the rest for him? Wow….that’s actually allowed in competitive online?
Yes, but they are penalized for it by having less user impact on the results.
Like it has been stated none of the top players use directional.
Think of it like this, using directional has a higher floor, but a lower ceiling as compared to zone.
Penalised; I would argue that this word is ambiguous in this context.
Penalised in terms of the satisfaction that they contributed to the result: sure.
Penalised in terms of the play result: apparently not.
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@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
I’m genuinely curious how your friend plays with one hand. That being said the rest of this post is ridiculous.
Directional hitting has nothing to do with a PCI. It’s strictly timing with the ability to influence the direction of the hit (although who knows how much).
I always love the posts that say “for the first x innings I was untouchable, then he started crushing me, this game is rigged”. As if a pitcher has never started a game out well only to then stink.
I will agree with you about the low sinkers being hit for homers. That defies physics to me. I’m talking a sinking pitch that is a few inches below the zone being crushed for a homer. Makes no sense.
Also, In what world should the “better” team win 100% of the time?
One thing. I think it's entirely possible to hit a sinker for a homerun. If you're talking about "inches below the zone", do you realize that is just inches below a hitters knee? I'm sure 99% of all MLB hitters can crush a sinker for a HR if it's just a few inches below his knee/zone. They just need to golf it.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but it happens way too often in this game. I mean I’m throwing a sinker that I’m aiming a good 4 inches below the strike zone. The results are showing that it hits the spot and they’re crushing balls out of the park. A pitch that far below the zone that has downward movement should not be getting homered as often as it does.
My opinion. Maybe I’m wrong.
No, I agree. This game rewards pure cr@p because it's poorly programmed.
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@red_ted_is_back said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@nflman2033_mlbts said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@savefarris_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
“I threw the same pitch every single time and he finally adjusted to it” doesn’t prove what you think it does.
How could he adjust to it? He’s a directional hitter. What you actually mean is, the game itself adjusted to it and helped him out.
Are you being purposefully obtuse?
All he’s controlling is the swing timing. The AI and the batters attributes and ability are controlling the rest. This has been explained repeatedly.
All he has to do is push a single button and the AI does the rest for him? Wow….that’s actually allowed in competitive online?
Yes, but they are penalized for it by having less user impact on the results.
Like it has been stated none of the top players use directional.
Think of it like this, using directional has a higher floor, but a lower ceiling as compared to zone.
Penalised; I would argue that this word is ambiguous in this context.
Penalised in terms of the satisfaction that they contributed to the result: sure.
Penalised in terms of the play result: apparently not.
See high floor low ceiling. Because thats my explanation for penalized. Its all a matter of how much dice roll is applied. For the more difficult interface you have less dice roll. But you still have it. For something like directional you will have more, and unfortunately sometimes that dice is going to come up high and that person using an easier interface is going to get good results, and the better the cards they are using the more it's going to happen.
I'd still rather put my fate in my hands and use the interface that has less dice roll and if I lose to a directional guy who got a lucky dice roll, oh well, it sucks. I hate losing, but its not something that is going to ruin my day.
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
@parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:
It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
I’m genuinely curious how your friend plays with one hand. That being said the rest of this post is ridiculous.
Directional hitting has nothing to do with a PCI. It’s strictly timing with the ability to influence the direction of the hit (although who knows how much).
I always love the posts that say “for the first x innings I was untouchable, then he started crushing me, this game is rigged”. As if a pitcher has never started a game out well only to then stink.
I will agree with you about the low sinkers being hit for homers. That defies physics to me. I’m talking a sinking pitch that is a few inches below the zone being crushed for a homer. Makes no sense.
Also, In what world should the “better” team win 100% of the time?
One thing. I think it's entirely possible to hit a sinker for a homerun. If you're talking about "inches below the zone", do you realize that is just inches below a hitters knee? I'm sure 99% of all MLB hitters can crush a sinker for a HR if it's just a few inches below his knee/zone. They just need to golf it.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but it happens way too often in this game. I mean I’m throwing a sinker that I’m aiming a good 4 inches below the strike zone. The results are showing that it hits the spot and they’re crushing balls out of the park. A pitch that far below the zone that has downward movement should not be getting homered as often as it does.
My opinion. Maybe I’m wrong.
No, I agree. This game rewards pure cr@p because it's poorly programmed.
That’s my only real problem with online, besides the fact that I’m not very good. A 97+ sinking pitch, a good 4 inches below the knees should not be getting regularly crushed for a homer. You get good contact on it, ok a hit. But the point of the sinker is to get ground balls. Throwing it as well as you can throw should result in said groundball.
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It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.
I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.
I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.
For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.
That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.
Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.
I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?
This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.
Guarantee you lose 101 times out of 100 to Weens or Oh Chev or Pitching rebel or Bmac or any of the other great players. Lmfao at this troll post.
Why wouldn’t they be able to beat me 101 out of 101 times if they’re that superior to me?
Totally missed the point kid, I’m sure one these guys can enlighten you as to what was meant by my comment.
You can’t elaborate on your own comment? You can’t explain why a far superior opponent might lose a game to an inferior opponent?
He said you would lose 101 times out of 100.
Right, but if I’m playing someone that much better than me, how could I win even once?
Even the lowly Baltimore orioles beat teams that are way better than them. People say it all the time, that's why they play the games.
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For the millionth time, if Directional is so easy, why doesn't everybody use it?
Is it personal "integrity", or that it's actually pretty difficult, especially as you move up through the ranks?The answer is that with zone, you can somehow hit 400 ft bombs off pitches over your head, gappers off sliders 3 ft off the plate, and chip shot hits off pitches in the dirt.
I use both but prefer Directional because my eye is much better.Zone defies the laws of physics annually.
Directional is more realistic, therefore much more limited.
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“I threw the same pitch every single time and he finally adjusted to it” doesn’t prove what you think it does.
How could he adjust to it? He’s a directional hitter. What you actually mean is, the game itself adjusted to it and helped him out.
Are you being purposefully obtuse?
All he’s controlling is the swing timing. The AI and the batters attributes and ability are controlling the rest. This has been explained repeatedly.
All he has to do is push a single button and the AI does the rest for him? Wow….that’s actually allowed in competitive online?
Yes, but they are penalized for it by having less user impact on the results.
Like it has been stated none of the top players use directional.
Think of it like this, using directional has a higher floor, but a lower ceiling as compared to zone.
Penalised; I would argue that this word is ambiguous in this context.
Penalised in terms of the satisfaction that they contributed to the result: sure.
Penalised in terms of the play result: apparently not.
See high floor low ceiling. Because thats my explanation for penalized. Its all a matter of how much dice roll is applied. For the more difficult interface you have less dice roll. But you still have it. For something like directional you will have more, and unfortunately sometimes that dice is going to come up high and that person using an easier interface is going to get good results, and the better the cards they are using the more it's going to happen.
I'd still rather put my fate in my hands and use the interface that has less dice roll and if I lose to a directional guy who got a lucky dice roll, oh well, it sucks. I hate losing, but its not something that is going to ruin my day.
Amen to that last paragraph.
So in the final feature premiere SDS is talking about esports. I wonder if they’re going to be streaming (as in separating) the different input methods to avoid directional vs zone clashes (as an example). Or giving us matchup settings.
Or maybe esports is custom leagues renamed.
