Unpopular Opinion for 22
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@guccigangchuck said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
There shouldn't be much controversy about WS players getting rewards that are unavailable to the 30/40 win crowd.
RS is a COMPETITIVE MODE, and those at the highest level -- WS -- should get a better reward. Not merely the same reward twice if -- IF -- they grind out 30/40 wins. That's not honoring their skill. RS isn't a resort swimming pool ("fun"); it's BUDS (survival of the fittest). If you're in it for fun, no problem -- but then don't complain about rewards.
Making the reward unsellable for cumulative-win players is the easiest fix. Then WS players can grind on to the win total for the card and sell the one they already have for huge profit. Those not good enough to make WS (e.g., me) would either have to grind for the wins OR pay an exorbitant price for the card that WS players are selling.
Ultimately, though, I'd advocate for WS players getting a card that ONLY unlocks at WS ranking, not cumulative wins.
Sucks for me, but otherwise why have a COMPETITIVE MODE with RANKINGS????
Average players want everything the killers get. It shouldn't work that way. SDS caved this year, but they need to recenter the pendulum.
this exactly, this year they gave everything away, go back to making people actually earn it, that motivates ALL PLAYERS to get better at THE GAME, rather than just cut your losses and quit games. Losing is fun becuase it motivates one to get better, wish i would stuck to this because tanking in august reallly hurt my skill when it came down the road.
I have no problem with people tanking to stay in a sweet spot where they can remain competitive and don't get crushed. I do that. So if I want the reward, I'll have to grind or buy it. Perfectly fine.
Losing is NOT fun, and I don't have hours and hours to do video game batting practice to git gud.
Just make the grind reward unsellable, and give WS players something more in addition.
I don’t mind losing a good game that’s fun. You make an excellent point as I also don’t have hours available to practice and “git gud”. I’m a union boilermaker with a career and responsibilities……as we all have.
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@guccigangchuck said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
I tend to disagree with those that are against the tanking. If I remember correctly, in those pre release SDS streams, I can remember hearing them use the phrase “just play the game”. That’s exactly what people are doing and they’re doing it at a high rate. It simply doesn’t matter if you get you’re 30/40 wins in all star, or if you legit get to 900. You’re still putting in the time and the gameplay.
yeah but you dont see a problem with a person that clearly has ability to make WS but would rather pick on easier opponents? Thats all tanking is, its not a matter of more fun, i originally though it was, but its turned ranked at the 400-600 level a stomping ground and a game of quitting, no one plays games out anymore because of the cumulative rewards. Its bad for ranked. If anything bring back the ticket counter and throw those cards from previous seasons in it, make it so you earn tickets while playing out games fully through.
This is the best idea. wether you’re good or bad at this game you are beat out by people cheating the system. Tanking, boosting to bosses, RTTS glitches. The people who really got screwed this year is every legit player who can take an L, good or bad.
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@charterbus_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@guccigangchuck said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@mjfc_363_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
I tend to disagree with those that are against the tanking. If I remember correctly, in those pre release SDS streams, I can remember hearing them use the phrase “just play the game”. That’s exactly what people are doing and they’re doing it at a high rate. It simply doesn’t matter if you get you’re 30/40 wins in all star, or if you legit get to 900. You’re still putting in the time and the gameplay.
yeah but you dont see a problem with a person that clearly has ability to make WS but would rather pick on easier opponents? Thats all tanking is, its not a matter of more fun, i originally though it was, but its turned ranked at the 400-600 level a stomping ground and a game of quitting, no one plays games out anymore because of the cumulative rewards. Its bad for ranked. If anything bring back the ticket counter and throw those cards from previous seasons in it, make it so you earn tickets while playing out games fully through.
This is the best idea. wether you’re good or bad at this game you are beat out by people cheating the system. Tanking, boosting to bosses, RTTS glitches. The people who really got screwed this year is every legit player who can take an L, good or bad.
Great post.
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They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
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@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys guys complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
Im not against a penalty for quitting within the first 3 innings. Maybe a 30 minute cool-down between RS games.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
This is my first Show since 18 tbh, ive enjoyed it. but i just want to play in AS - what is it, top 2-3% play in legend? maybe 15-20% in HOF?
The rest of us just down here being casual. not sweaty.
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
In 19 the world series and BR rewards never topped 600k and there was never any talk of the cards "not being exclusive enough"
If I have the stubs, I should be able to purchase a card, period.
I'm not some scrub that can't make world series either. I just don't enjoy ranked at all.
No one seems to have a problem with the BR program despite it being 40 times easier to complete than the RS wins. If people didn't tank I'm not sure this thread even exists. Thats all that needs to happen is the tanking stopped. There is ways do do that without getting these cards back to million stub month long waitlists
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
In 19 the world series and BR rewards never topped 600k and there was never any talk of the cards "not being exclusive enough"
If I have the stubs, I should be able to purchase a card, period.
I'm not some scrub that can't make world series either. I just don't enjoy ranked at all.
No one seems to have a problem with the BR program despite it being 40 times easier to complete than the RS wins. If people didn't tank I'm not sure this thread even exists. Thats all that needs to happen is the tanking stopped. There is ways do do that without getting these cards back to million stub month long waitlists
I have a huge problem with BR as now you have people messaging their opponent to boost to complete the program even quicker with less effort.
We aren’t going to agree here, but I respect
Your opinion and you have always been one of the better forum members which I appreciate.Cheers
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
This exactly, prior to 19 i never made WS, never completed collections, i grinded and got better to make WS finally in 19 sold my chipper and felt awesome, thats what made ranked fun. People now just use the "its more fun" thats the weakest mindset i've ever heard in a video game, if you wanna have fun then have fun but you shouldnt be able to sell the WS card that the people at constantly push towards in trying to get better. The 400s-500 are meant for the players that need to be there. Tanking is no different than smurffing.
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@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
Not a bad idea. The only thing that makes me go "meh" is the overproliferation of free 99 cards to begin with. But I suppose that's unavoidable. I think 99's come way too soon and way too often, but veteran DD players have said that isn't going anywhere.
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@guccigangchuck said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
This exactly, prior to 19 i never made WS, never completed collections, i grinded and got better to make WS finally in 19 sold my chipper and felt awesome, thats what made ranked fun. People now just use the "its more fun" thats the weakest mindset i've ever heard in a video game, if you wanna have fun then have fun but you shouldnt be able to sell the WS card that the people at constantly push towards in trying to get better. The 400s-500 are meant for the players that need to be there. Tanking is no different than smurffing.
@guccigangchuck said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
This exactly, prior to 19 i never made WS, never completed collections, i grinded and got better to make WS finally in 19 sold my chipper and felt awesome, thats what made ranked fun. People now just use the "its more fun" thats the weakest mindset i've ever heard in a video game, if you wanna have fun then have fun but you shouldnt be able to sell the WS card that the people at constantly push towards in trying to get better. The 400s-500 are meant for the players that need to be there. Tanking is no different than smurffing.
That being said tanking is the biggest problem, not the win programs in general. By no means is 30(40 earlier in the year) ranked wins in a month a handout if you don't tank. Lose the tanking(or boosting in BR's case) and I don't see a problem with any of the way these programs were handled
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@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
In 19 the world series and BR rewards never topped 600k and there was never any talk of the cards "not being exclusive enough"
If I have the stubs, I should be able to purchase a card, period.
I'm not some scrub that can't make world series either. I just don't enjoy ranked at all.
No one seems to have a problem with the BR program despite it being 40 times easier to complete than the RS wins. If people didn't tank I'm not sure this thread even exists. Thats all that needs to happen is the tanking stopped. There is ways do do that without getting these cards back to million stub month long waitlists
It's a MARKET, not a STORE. You having the stubs is only part of the equation. The cards aren't sitting on shelves in an unlimited supply.
It's not a perfect system, to be sure. But "I want it I should be able to get it" leads to EA-style microtransaction madness. I salute SDS for not giving in to that.
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@suntlacrimae50_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
In 19 the world series and BR rewards never topped 600k and there was never any talk of the cards "not being exclusive enough"
If I have the stubs, I should be able to purchase a card, period.
I'm not some scrub that can't make world series either. I just don't enjoy ranked at all.
No one seems to have a problem with the BR program despite it being 40 times easier to complete than the RS wins. If people didn't tank I'm not sure this thread even exists. Thats all that needs to happen is the tanking stopped. There is ways do do that without getting these cards back to million stub month long waitlists
It's a MARKET, not a STORE. You having the stubs is only part of the equation. The cards aren't sitting on shelves in an unlimited supply.
It's not a perfect system, to be sure. But "I want it I should be able to get it" leads to EA-style microtransaction madness. I salute SDS for not giving in to that.
Max stub waitlisted cards by year:
MLB 17=3
MLB 18=0
MLB 19=0
MLB 20=30+
MLB 21=1If you can't see why they put these programs in then whatever. The only other solution is to lower the supply of stubs the average player has (which i wouldn't be against to be fair, team affinity gives out far too much), which would go over less well than the 6 of you being upset that cards aren't exclusive enough
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@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
You clearly have no idea how a business operates (SDS is a business and The Show is a consumer product). No business (that wants to last anyways) makes decisions that appease 2% of their customers at the cost of the “happiness” of the other 98%. The programs were a brilliant business move by SDS end of story. The Show is exactly like Doritos (both are consumer products). If you want to get some super reward for your skill at something, try an actual sport not a video game.
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@gradekthebard said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@oreorockstar_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@the_dragon1912 said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
@lewisnadasurf1_psn said in Unpopular Opinion for 22:
They need to divisionalise the ranked seasons.
By that. I mean you CHOOSE your difficulty before the game. You may participate in anything from Veteran to Legend. So all 4 difficulties if you want during the same season.
The ranking system remains the same 0-900+. If you make 900 or get 30 wins you get the WS reward.
However. The reward is based upon which division you achieve it in. So in The first season for example
If you make WS in Veteran you get a 90 overall pick
AS you get a 93 pick
HoF you get a 95 pick
Legend should get you a 99.I like this idea.
I tank. I have no desire to improve. I don’t like HoF or higher. AS is where I like to play.
It’s a video game. And the above idea caters for all IMO
If you think having an exclusive card for a legend RS caters to all, then I think you missed the whole point of the 30 win program to begin with. Either make the 30 wins non sellable or implement a penalty for quitting. Exclusive cards is what got us into this in the first place
No, it’s guys obsessively complaining that they either aren’t good enough to earn a card or didn’t get a stubs order in quick enough to get a card that got us to where we are.
I do agree with both your suggestions on penalties for quits or non sellable rewards.
It was never about people complaining they weren't good enough to get a card. It was the million stubs waitlists, which should not exist. You shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks to a month for an order to go through on a card. That is ridiculous no matter the skill level of who wants the card.
Disagree. It was supposed to be a limited card , not a bag of Doritos on every C store and grocery shelf n the world. So just because you have the stubs doesn’t mean there are enough of them to meet the demand.
You clearly have no idea how a business operates (SDS is a business and The Show is a consumer product). No business (that wants to last anyways) makes decisions that appease 2% of their customers at the cost of the “happiness” of the other 98%. The programs were a brilliant business move by SDS end of story. The Show is exactly like Doritos (both are consumer products). If you want to get some super reward for your skill at something, try an actual sport not a video game.
It's not an either/or. It's a brilliant business model (but not as predatory/profitable as it could be) and a competitive mode (though not as much so as a sport per se).
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As much as I hate to agree with this I do. I am active duty military so I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to playing MLBTS as I have friends I play other games with. however because people only have to get 30 Ws I find myself get early rage quits and can't get better at the game so when I do face someone who is good or has been able to put in some work i get shelled. In Aug of last year I went on a ship for a deployment got sent back on emergency leave so my stats set all the way back to the lowest I played 3-4 games one night and actually played only 2. Because my first couple opponents quit early. One of them I struck out the side and he quit, next one hit a first pitch in the hole and he quit, then faced a decent player who took an early lead but I fought back and he eventually quit, then I faced a good player and he mercy ruled me. So yea I agree make RS competitive again. Give those of us with little time the ability to get the good cards but make them unsellable.
