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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    These extra stat metrics are what is ruining the game. Always get the same argument.

    Take a guy like Gallo, this dude SHOULD NOT be playing in the majors. I could care less about OBP, if there is a runner on 2nd two outs and u need a hit, a walk does nothing.

    Here’s an example of someone that doesn’t understand how hitters bring value in different ways. Gallo had a 123 wRC+ this year. That means he was 23% better than the league-average. That’s better than Tim Anderson, Jake Cronenworth, Nolan Arenado, Adam Frazier, and many more. Being able to compare two totally different types of players with extremely different offensive skillsets and determine which one is truly more productive using advanced metrics has made the game so much better. Having a .300+ AVG doesn’t necessarily mean that person is a better offensive player than the guy with a .200 AVG that hits for power and walks.

    If there’s a runner on 2nd with two outs, I’d rather my hitter walk than swing at junk or make weak contact for an out. With how many homeruns are being hit these days, having a high OBP is more valuable than ever.

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    @jogger171717_psn said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    These extra stat metrics are what is ruining the game. Always get the same argument.

    Take a guy like Gallo, this dude SHOULD NOT be playing in the majors. I could care less about OBP, if there is a runner on 2nd two outs and u need a hit, a walk does nothing.

    Here’s an example of someone that doesn’t understand how hitters bring value in different ways. Gallo had a 123 wRC+ this year. That means he was 23% better than the league-average. That’s better than Tim Anderson, Jake Cronenworth, Nolan Arenado, Adam Frazier, and many more. Being able to compare two totally different types of players with extremely different offensive skillsets and determine which one is truly more productive using advanced metrics has made the game so much better. Having a .300+ AVG doesn’t necessarily mean that person is a better offensive player than the guy with a .200 AVG that hits for power and walks.

    I am sure u could find a category for any player now and say he is good at something.

    Let me ask u, let's take my earlier example.

    If there was a runner on 1st and 2nd, two outs and Gallo is up (let's say Barry bonds is on deck) would u want Gallo up to bat?

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    How do you feel about Joe Carter as a player? just sparking some conversation here

    He had a nice career. Overall he wasn't that great of a player. Do I care that a video game gave him a diamond card? No.

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @jogger171717_psn said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    These extra stat metrics are what is ruining the game. Always get the same argument.

    Take a guy like Gallo, this dude SHOULD NOT be playing in the majors. I could care less about OBP, if there is a runner on 2nd two outs and u need a hit, a walk does nothing.

    Here’s an example of someone that doesn’t understand how hitters bring value in different ways. Gallo had a 123 wRC+ this year. That means he was 23% better than the league-average. That’s better than Tim Anderson, Jake Cronenworth, Nolan Arenado, Adam Frazier, and many more. Being able to compare two totally different types of players with extremely different offensive skillsets and determine which one is truly more productive using advanced metrics has made the game so much better. Having a .300+ AVG doesn’t necessarily mean that person is a better offensive player than the guy with a .200 AVG that hits for power and walks.

    I am sure u could find a category for any player now and say he is good at something.

    Let me ask u, let's take my earlier example.

    If there was a runner on 1st and 2nd, two outs and Gallo is up (let's say Barry bonds is on deck) would u want Gallo up to bat?

    If he walks? Absolutely. I'll take a grand slam with bonds over a 3 run shot any day of the week. No one is saying Gallo is some sort of superstar, but he walks, hits homers, and plays great defense(also while strikeouts look bad I would take a strikeout over a double play). Again, no one is saying Gallo is a hall of famer, but thinking he doesn't provide value to a team is silly

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @jogger171717_psn said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    These extra stat metrics are what is ruining the game. Always get the same argument.

    Take a guy like Gallo, this dude SHOULD NOT be playing in the majors. I could care less about OBP, if there is a runner on 2nd two outs and u need a hit, a walk does nothing.

    Here’s an example of someone that doesn’t understand how hitters bring value in different ways. Gallo had a 123 wRC+ this year. That means he was 23% better than the league-average. That’s better than Tim Anderson, Jake Cronenworth, Nolan Arenado, Adam Frazier, and many more. Being able to compare two totally different types of players with extremely different offensive skillsets and determine which one is truly more productive using advanced metrics has made the game so much better. Having a .300+ AVG doesn’t necessarily mean that person is a better offensive player than the guy with a .200 AVG that hits for power and walks.

    I am sure u could find a category for any player now and say he is good at something.

    Let me ask u, let's take my earlier example.

    If there was a runner on 1st and 2nd, two outs and Gallo is up (let's say Barry bonds is on deck) would u want Gallo up to bat?

    I’d take Gallo’s 123 wRC+ in that situation over someone with a lower wRC+, that’s for sure. Obviously I’d be more than happy to have someone with a higher wRC+ instead, but that’s out of my control. It’s really that simple lmao. A .300 AVG hitter with the same or lower wRC+ is just as likely or more likely to create an out in that situation as Joey Gallo is.

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @jogger171717_psn said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    These extra stat metrics are what is ruining the game. Always get the same argument.

    Take a guy like Gallo, this dude SHOULD NOT be playing in the majors. I could care less about OBP, if there is a runner on 2nd two outs and u need a hit, a walk does nothing.

    Here’s an example of someone that doesn’t understand how hitters bring value in different ways. Gallo had a 123 wRC+ this year. That means he was 23% better than the league-average. That’s better than Tim Anderson, Jake Cronenworth, Nolan Arenado, Adam Frazier, and many more. Being able to compare two totally different types of players with extremely different offensive skillsets and determine which one is truly more productive using advanced metrics has made the game so much better. Having a .300+ AVG doesn’t necessarily mean that person is a better offensive player than the guy with a .200 AVG that hits for power and walks.

    I am sure u could find a category for any player now and say he is good at something.

    Let me ask u, let's take my earlier example.

    If there was a runner on 1st and 2nd, two outs and Gallo is up (let's say Barry bonds is on deck) would u want Gallo up to bat?

    Huh? So now you argument to trash Gallo is to compare him to Barry Bonds? Bottomline it's silly to complain about a guy walking with 2 outs and a runner on 2nd. Walks are never a bad thing.

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    No, im not comparing the two. I am simply stating that I would rather face Gallo because he strikes out 3 out of 4 times a game. And if he walks? Good luck against bonds

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    No, im not comparing the two. I am simply stating that I would rather face Gallo because he strikes out 3 out of 4 times a game. And if he walks? Good luck against bonds

    I'm not sure it needed to be stated, find me one person who would argue they want Gallo up instead of Bonds

    Also, he strikes out about 1.4 times a game if we round up.

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    I'm a Ranger fan, love the person Gallo but when he was traded I was bummed for the person go...not the strike outs.
    Sorry, when you are constantly reaching 180-200 strike outs you are a detriment to the overall team offense. Just my opinion, never liked striking out becoming so acceptable.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    How do you feel about Joe Carter as a player? just sparking some conversation here

    Carter deserves the first 100 rated card in show history, prove me wrong

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    @xxchaosmnkyxx_psn said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    I'm a Ranger fan, love the person Gallo but when he was traded I was bummed for the person go...not the strike outs.
    Sorry, when you are constantly reaching 180-200 strike outs you are a detriment to the overall team offense. Just my opinion, never liked striking out becoming so acceptable.

    You can have your own opinion, but statistically Gallo is by no means a detriment to overall team offense.

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    .296 CAREER BA. How many batters do you think hit .296 or higher this season alone?

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    @bobbyromano24 said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    .296 CAREER BA. How many batters do you think hit .296 or higher this season alone?

    The answer: only 17

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    I still cant believe that there are people out there that think drawing walks are a bad thing.

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    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    I still cant believe that there are people out there that think drawing walks are a bad thing.

    And there are people out there that think having 200 strikeouts and hitting below .200 is a good thing

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    I still cant believe that there are people out there that think drawing walks are a bad thing.

    And there are people out there that think having 200 strikeouts and hitting below .200 is a good thing

    I'm positive that is incorrect.

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    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    I still cant believe that there are people out there that think drawing walks are a bad thing.

    And there are people out there that think having 200 strikeouts and hitting below .200 is a good thing

    I'm positive that is incorrect.

    Lmao!!! Well... this is Gallo!

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    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @maddogtannen777_xbl said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    @poksey_mlbts said in Sr. Not Deserving of Program:

    I still cant believe that there are people out there that think drawing walks are a bad thing.

    And there are people out there that think having 200 strikeouts and hitting below .200 is a good thing

    I'm positive that is incorrect.

    Lmao!!! Well... this is Gallo!

    Good players that are useful to the team can have bad qualities to. You are attempting to argue in a way that makes it seem like you win, when no one was arguing that in the first place.

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    The drop of SR means Jr is coming

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    Hey bud, the release of Senior always means 99 Jr. is around the corner. First year playing?

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