Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...
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I love pitching duels. Even before pinpoint, which I use, I loved a good 2-1, 1-0, or 3-2 type of game way more than a slugfest. Not because I don't like hitting, but because the reason most of the HR and big hits happened is from game induced hangers. My bigger issue with the game when it comes to pitching is that it allows an unrealistic pitching approach to dominate (high sinkers, sliders, etc.). Being a good hitter vs being able to hit meatballs is two different things and from what I've seen, good hitters still hit well. It's guys who mostly crushed the game induced meatballs (me included) who are struggling the most.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
With this line of thinking, should the easiest ways to play the game be rewarded the same as the hardest ways to play? Serious question. Should classic pitching locate as well as all other methods. Should analog or directional hitting work as well as zone and your PCI be perfectly located by the CPU?
I think the issue here is that the different methods require more input goals and are harder, therefore are rewarded more. I may be wrong, but I'd love to hear a better explanation. FWIW I'm a previous analog pitcher for as long as that method was available who picked up pinpoint this year.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
I've used meter pitching for 15ish years. I haven't switched to pinpoint and I throw "dots". I am amazing at pitching.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
I've used meter pitching for 15ish years. I haven't switched to pinpoint and I throw "dots". I am amazing at pitching.
Meter as well. Tried pinpoint but I want to play a baseball game not draw pictures.
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@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
With this line of thinking, should the easiest ways to play the game be rewarded the same as the hardest ways to play? Serious question. Should classic pitching locate as well as all other methods. Should analog or directional hitting work as well as zone and your PCI be perfectly located by the CPU?
I think the issue here is that the different methods require more input goals and are harder, therefore are rewarded more. I may be wrong, but I'd love to hear a better explanation. FWIW I'm a previous analog pitcher for as long as that method was available who picked up pinpoint this year.
Analog was the best and most accurate way to pitch last year. Now this year, it acts the same as metered pitching with floaters in the zone. There really isn't any explanation needed. It's not about what mode is harder. Good input should be rewarded regardless of which mode you choose. It's fine offline, but online? Forget about it!
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
I've used meter pitching for 15ish years. I haven't switched to pinpoint and I throw "dots". I am amazing at pitching.
I'm guessing your an offline player because metered pitching does not work online. I can dot pitches against the computer all day.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
With this line of thinking, should the easiest ways to play the game be rewarded the same as the hardest ways to play? Serious question. Should classic pitching locate as well as all other methods. Should analog or directional hitting work as well as zone and your PCI be perfectly located by the CPU?
I think the issue here is that the different methods require more input goals and are harder, therefore are rewarded more. I may be wrong, but I'd love to hear a better explanation. FWIW I'm a previous analog pitcher for as long as that method was available who picked up pinpoint this year.
Analog was the best and most accurate way to pitch last year. Now this year, it acts the same as metered pitching with floaters in the zone. There really isn't any explanation needed. It's not about what mode is harder. Good input should be rewarded regardless of which mode you choose. It's fine offline, but online? Forget about it!
Analog used to always be the best method IMO as well. I used it back on PS3. Heck, I liked that style back when they did "rock and fire" pitching in MVP Baseball. I also agree that there should be no RNG in the game, but when they allow methods of play online that are considerably easier to use, there has to then be some element of RNG.
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It just happens to either be bad connection or two bad players because when connection is good and I’m playing someone who’s good I’m afraid even on legend
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@twisted-_-tea-_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
It just happens to either be bad connection or two bad players because when connection is good and I’m playing someone who’s good I’m afraid even on legend
I can agree with this. That is where most of problem sits..connection speed, ping, etc. They have to make a better match making method of getting people with similar connections.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
I've used meter pitching for 15ish years. I haven't switched to pinpoint and I throw "dots". I am amazing at pitching.
I'm guessing your an offline player because metered pitching does not work online. I can dot pitches against the computer all day.
I play both online and offline. It's literally the same meter online and offline.. I don't understand the point of that response? Idk, I'll stick with meter just because that's what I'm used to. Give dots and get dots. It's not like the opponent throws dots and you don't have the same opportunity to throw the same dots. That's what I don't understand about the argument about your opponent painting spots. It's the same opportunity for both sides.
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@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
With this line of thinking, should the easiest ways to play the game be rewarded the same as the hardest ways to play? Serious question. Should classic pitching locate as well as all other methods. Should analog or directional hitting work as well as zone and your PCI be perfectly located by the CPU?
I think the issue here is that the different methods require more input goals and are harder, therefore are rewarded more. I may be wrong, but I'd love to hear a better explanation. FWIW I'm a previous analog pitcher for as long as that method was available who picked up pinpoint this year.
Analog was the best and most accurate way to pitch last year. Now this year, it acts the same as metered pitching with floaters in the zone. There really isn't any explanation needed. It's not about what mode is harder. Good input should be rewarded regardless of which mode you choose. It's fine offline, but online? Forget about it!
Analog used to always be the best method IMO as well. I used it back on PS3. Heck, I liked that style back when they did "rock and fire" pitching in MVP Baseball. I also agree that there should be no RNG in the game, but when they allow methods of play online that are considerably easier to use, there has to then be some element of RNG.
RNG rules the on-line format at the end of the day.
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@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@theu715_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
With this line of thinking, should the easiest ways to play the game be rewarded the same as the hardest ways to play? Serious question. Should classic pitching locate as well as all other methods. Should analog or directional hitting work as well as zone and your PCI be perfectly located by the CPU?
I think the issue here is that the different methods require more input goals and are harder, therefore are rewarded more. I may be wrong, but I'd love to hear a better explanation. FWIW I'm a previous analog pitcher for as long as that method was available who picked up pinpoint this year.
Analog was the best and most accurate way to pitch last year. Now this year, it acts the same as metered pitching with floaters in the zone. There really isn't any explanation needed. It's not about what mode is harder. Good input should be rewarded regardless of which mode you choose. It's fine offline, but online? Forget about it!
Analog used to always be the best method IMO as well. I used it back on PS3. Heck, I liked that style back when they did "rock and fire" pitching in MVP Baseball. I also agree that there should be no RNG in the game, but when they allow methods of play online that are considerably easier to use, there has to then be some element of RNG.
RNG rules the on-line format at the end of the day.
It feels that way in RS. I'll say this. I've got in a group and we do a custom league with only LS cards and the game plays much more realistic than it does in DD. All these juiced cards with their quirks and overblown attributes I think is what causes all the RNG.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
Maybe a “perfect pitch” shouldn’t be so easily executed if you don’t want random results. It’s pretty hard to square up a ball and hit a bomb. Should be hard to split the edge of the strike zone every pitch also.
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@thaghettoblasta said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
I'm sure everyone wants to throw dots with THEIR preferred pitching mode. Why should anyone be forced to use something they are not comfortable with? And why should they be punished for their choice with pitches aimed down and in at the pitchers legs (say righty vs lefty), with perfect release that floats straight down the middle and into the hitters wheel house? It's stupid and makes 0 sense! If you don't use pinpoint, you aren't going to win as many games as those using it, it's simple as that. They may as well take every other pitching mode out of the game at this point.
I've used meter pitching for 15ish years. I haven't switched to pinpoint and I throw "dots". I am amazing at pitching.
I'm guessing your an offline player because metered pitching does not work online. I can dot pitches against the computer all day.
I play both online and offline. It's literally the same meter online and offline.. I don't understand the point of that response? Idk, I'll stick with meter just because that's what I'm used to. Give dots and get dots. It's not like the opponent throws dots and you don't have the same opportunity to throw the same dots. That's what I don't understand about the argument about your opponent painting spots. It's the same opportunity for both sides.
Because I can aim directly on any corner; for example a high fast ball up and in with a pitcher that has stellar control, H/9, K/9, and get perfect release and maxed out velocity, said pitch is release and decides it's going to randomly float down and away. You honestly must be god if you are you are dotting anything online more than once.
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Awful game play for me tonight. Played 4 games. Won 3 of those somehow (the one I lost was on HoF) and I literally was constantly late to every pitcher. Felix Hernandez. Fastest ball is 93? Late, late, late. Unreal.
Maybe I’m tired. I dunno. But I’ve two weeks off and mostly played in the morning and everything was butter.
Sooner we have dedicated servers the better.
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@codywolfgang_xbl said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
Maybe a “perfect pitch” shouldn’t be so easily executed if you don’t want random results. It’s pretty hard to square up a ball and hit a bomb. Should be hard to split the edge of the strike zone every pitch also.
I totally agree with that. Pitching in general needs to be more on point with hitting. Pitching is def OP compared to hitting. My only gripe about this thread was the complaining about the opponent throwing perfect pitches, when in reality you can throw perfect pitches too. Pitching is so much easier compared to hitting. Idk the best way to "fix" it though.
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best way is to take away pinpoint pitching or make it less effective
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@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@codywolfgang_xbl said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
@knoxwurst31_psn said in Just Dots, Dots, and More Dots...:
Let me ask you this. So when YOU are pitching, do you want to throw dots? Or would you prefer your pitches to not go where you intend them if you have a perfect pitch? It goes both ways.
Maybe a “perfect pitch” shouldn’t be so easily executed if you don’t want random results. It’s pretty hard to square up a ball and hit a bomb. Should be hard to split the edge of the strike zone every pitch also.
I totally agree with that. Pitching in general needs to be more on point with hitting. Pitching is def OP compared to hitting. My only gripe about this thread was the complaining about the opponent throwing perfect pitches, when in reality you can throw perfect pitches too. Pitching is so much easier compared to hitting. Idk the best way to "fix" it though.
Maybe this is true. Pitching is just so much easier to execute well compared to hitting...
